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July 02, 2011, 05:02:16 PM
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I just realized that libertarians are on intellectual par with Marxists, feminists, and creationists.

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July 02, 2011, 05:04:33 PM
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I just realized that libertarians are on intellectual par with Marxists, feminists, and creationists.

Government bad, free markets good rabble rabble rabble

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July 02, 2011, 05:07:48 PM
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I just realized that libertarians are on intellectual par with Marxists, feminists, and creationists.

Government bad, free markets good rabble rabble rabble
Everything is just fine, rabble rabble rabble, let's just repeat history, rabble rabble rabble
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July 02, 2011, 05:10:25 PM
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I just realized that libertarians are on intellectual par with Marxists, feminists, and creationists.

Government bad, free markets good rabble rabble rabble
Everything is just fine, rabble rabble rabble, let's just repeat history, rabble rabble rabble

The major difference being, I've never actually said everything is fine.  So.... strawman.

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July 02, 2011, 05:12:05 PM
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I just realized that libertarians are on intellectual par with Marxists, feminists, and creationists.

Government bad, free markets good rabble rabble rabble
Everything is just fine, rabble rabble rabble, let's just repeat history, rabble rabble rabble

The major difference being, I've never actually said everything is fine.  So.... strawman.

Yet you propose solutions that have already been tried.
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July 02, 2011, 05:14:37 PM
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I just realized that libertarians are on intellectual par with Marxists, feminists, and creationists.

Government bad, free markets good rabble rabble rabble
Everything is just fine, rabble rabble rabble, let's just repeat history, rabble rabble rabble

The major difference being, I've never actually said everything is fine.  So.... strawman.

Yet you propose solutions that have already been tried.

Every system is doomed to eventual failure, because such is human nature and such is the power of those that will always managed to control all systems.  My solutions delay the inevitable for at least a few hundred years.  Yours brings it on immediately.

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July 06, 2011, 05:46:04 AM
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Government and modern-day corporations alike are similar, and different from 'just a group of people'. They are granted special powers and legal status above the rest of us peasants. Whether this is good or bad, I'm skeptical. I don't think we need governments with unlimited or near-unlimited power, and I don't think we need corporations which are in bed with governments.

Also, I never said that everything bad is due to government, or everything good is due to the market. Stop attacking a straw man. What I did say is that the market has done more to address poverty in developing nations than anything else, hence 'thank fuck for the market'.

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July 06, 2011, 01:21:47 PM
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Also, I never said that everything bad is due to government, or everything good is due to the market. Stop attacking a straw man. What I did say is that the market has done more to address poverty in developing nations than anything else, hence 'thank fuck for the market'.

You're right, it has done a lot to address it.  It's done a great job of making sure poor people stay poor.

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July 06, 2011, 05:11:21 PM
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It is designed to push down all but the ruling elite class and push up all the lower classes to eventually have a two class world system.

The rulers and their subjects to serve them.

Thats [part of] what trade treaties and global orgs have been designed to do. Kill the middle and upper middle classes to bring them down to just above poverty levels by allowing global free unregulated and unrestricted trade so the businesses take their jobs overseas. This also raises the poverty stricken in those countries to just above poverty levels as well. The final product is everyone is forced at gunpoint to throw their stuff in a pile so everyone can share it. One World. One Dream. Everyone is reliant on The State because things are so bad, everything costs so much, that only the state can regulate and provide. They will make everything so expensive and tax you so much you wont even be able to afford to keep the land your ancestors paid for many times over. Its already happening. Why is it that everything keep going up and wages keep going down? Wheres has all that wealth evaportated to? Did it just disappear or was it siphoned off by interest from debt based currency to the ruling elite?

Also, why do you think those poverty-stricken 3rd world nations never get better with all the trillions of dollars pumped into them by the International Monetary Fund and the World Bank? Could it be because those financial institutions know the governments of those countries will take that money for their own purposes and not help their own people? And why is there never any stipulations on how all that money is to be used? Because maybe they dont care and simply need them addicted to the debt to have a support or vote for an agenda. Could it be that they know they will never be able to pay off the interest, let alone the principle, so they would be more apt to vote how the elites want then to in international affairs and at the UN?

Everything else is fluff to cloud the main issue.

Its about a few people stealing all the marbles, controlling everyone else.

yea ... I guess I am unhinged, as one poster put it in a previous thread.


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