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July 01, 2013, 05:15:40 PM
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fuck the goverment. our forefathers would hang these pricks from the highest of trees.
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July 01, 2013, 05:22:57 PM
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No one in their right mind doubts that the damage was symbolical and primary reason for prosecution is suppression of criticism.

Do people of America need to proclaim another Declaration of Independence from another tyranny?

No because all governments tend towards despotism. Another Declaration would simply be resetting the clock 200 or so years before the same inevitable conclusion.

What the human race needs is a post-state society.  It is my hope that emerging technologies (material sciences, decentralized networks, distributed energy production, etc) will enable the emergence of post state societies.  If not then the 21st century will likely be a repeat of the 20th century, where more citizens were murdered by their own governments then criminals or foreign states.
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July 01, 2013, 05:27:07 PM
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As much as this is an overzelous prosecution with a political element and thus absolutely disgusting the guy and his lawyer should be required to attend mandatory civics training so they can stop making stupid 1st amendment claims which don't apply.

The first amendment doesn't apply to another persons private property.  For example I can't barge into your house and scream on the top of my lungs about how your wife is a whore and then claim my first amendment rights are being violated when you either silence me, remove me, or contact agents of the state (i.e. Police) to accomplish the same.

This should never have even gotten before a judge.  Admit wrongdoing (and stupidity), plead down to a lesser charge (likely a misdemeanor) and pay a fine.  In the future follow the advice your mom hopefully gave you as a kid "if it doesn't belong to you ask permission first".
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July 02, 2013, 03:06:47 PM
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Sidewalks are public easements not owned by the Bank.



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July 02, 2013, 06:43:40 PM
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Sidewalks are public easements not owned by the Bank.

Makes sense. They are owned by "the people" (meaning government). The bank spent $6000 to clean up the sidewalk that they didn't own? Cool, but, you know, they didn't have to. And, that's kind of vandalism, too. You don't just break into another person's property, and start cleaning things up. If you admit that the bank employee had the right to clean up the sidewalk, it would also make sense that the guy had the right to write things on it.
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July 02, 2013, 10:49:25 PM
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This guy was found not guilty on all counts...  at lease the system worked this time
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