[ANN] CRYPTO MINING GAME, Earn Satoshi, Doge and Litoshi by playing to mine

[clearmaker]

In fact, now that I remember and since clearmaker talked about scammers...let me tell you sth about scammers.
I've lost too much money, much more than I wanted to, because of scammers. And almost all of it, was stolen from those mining platforms. Those super ruled sites. With so many banking rules, and verification process.
Faucethub...I don't know much about them, but what I can say is that they have never stolen a cent from me. They let me exchange till the last penny and between coins many other didn't even accept.
And as for banking rules....screw them! Fuck banks. They have stolen much more than money from people, and for too long. Now that you say faucethub didn't want to get involved in their ruled system. Well, I hope there are more faucethubs out there and find they way through these bastards.

Don't get me wrong. I don't want to be rude, but please don't mention banks again. Let we forget about them, for as much as we care.
Peace.

on faucethub members had 0.0 rights, more than 11,000 members were blocked for vague reasons, most of those blocked accounts were $ 50 +
Even if members provided evidence that not they, but owners of (auto)faucets had done something wrong, blocked members remained the victims.
11,000 x $ 50 + = $ 550,000+ !!!!!

according to the TERMS, faucet hub would send the credits back to the faucets in question where the cryptos came from, but it turned out that this never happened.

So look at the TERMS, and you will always see the same texts as * 5.1. We have the right to suspend your account at any time for any valid reason including, but not limited to, abuse of our Terms of Service.

5.2. All suspended accounts will have all their balances reset and no refunds will be given. *

Working with a Fraudscore which don't work correctly.

Faucethub repeatedly admitted to blocked members that they were right and did not blame them, but refused to unblock them. ( i have proof of that)

Then something technical ...
If you e.g. have 10,000 satoshis paid out each time, and you decide later to sell those satoshis, then you pay for every batch of 10,000 satoshis networktransaction fees.
So as an example ... you have 10 x 10,000 satoshis paid out via a micropayment system, you sell the 100,000 satoshis,
then you pay 10 x networktransaction fees.
If you would save up to 100,000 satoshis and then have them pay out, then sell the 100,000 satoshis, then you will only pay 1 x networktransaction fees for those 100,000 satoshis, and that is many times less than 10 batches of 10,000 satoshis.

So in the end you are much better off if you save cryptos to higher amounts.
That only applies to BTC and BTCH.
For other cryptos such as ETH, LTC, Doge, etc., fixed transaction fees apply regardless of the amount of batches involved.

[FatFork]

Hi jamboom,

I see you are ignoring the question so i will ask it again.
When will LTC withdrawals be processed?

You confirmed my withdrawal request almost two weeks ago, but still nothing was sent. So please answer publicly, how often withdrawals are processed? Your previous statement was - once a week which, obviously, is not true.

Hi,
1- Stop saying I'm ignoring messages, I'm just "a little" (euphemism) busy and there's a lot of to ask, you are not alone, not at all. "I see you are ignoring the question so i will ask it again." -> Please This I don't want to see anymore, or yes, I will ignore it.

Just so we're clear, since we all (or at least I) live in a free society, I can say whatever the hell I want. Unless it threatens other people's rights. If I have to ask the same question three times before you answer it, of course I will say that you are ignoring it. BTW, it worked, right?

2- Payouts are processed as much often as possible, regarding all the other issues to fix.
3- For now, delay are less than 10 days for all currencies, except for Litecoin which is around 13-14 days, but can be 9 days by tomorrow, it depends.

As you know, it took a little longer than 13-14 days. There is a clear line separating legitimate games and scam sites. Legitimate and fair games - pay, scam sites - don't! Since this was my first withdrawal, you understand where my frustration comes from.

I will soon add a queue system as you will be able to see how many payouts are before yours to help players know that It continues to pay and it will finally come.
Anyway, have a great end of day
Jam

That would be great! In any case, I see now that the LTC payments were processed yesterday. Thank you for that. You have an interesting game and you are doing a great job.
Keep it up, and have a great day too! 

[jamboom]

That would be great! In any case, I see now that the LTC payments were processed yesterday. Thank you for that. You have an interesting game and you are doing a great job.
Keep it up, and have a great day too! 

With pleasure, thanks!
Next, say "Stop not seeing", it will be more suitable ^^ (joke)

[McFly28]

In fact, now that I remember and since clearmaker talked about scammers...let me tell you sth about scammers.
I've lost too much money, much more than I wanted to, because of scammers. And almost all of it, was stolen from those mining platforms. Those super ruled sites. With so many banking rules, and verification process.
Faucethub...I don't know much about them, but what I can say is that they have never stolen a cent from me. They let me exchange till the last penny and between coins many other didn't even accept.
And as for banking rules....screw them! Fuck banks. They have stolen much more than money from people, and for too long. Now that you say faucethub didn't want to get involved in their ruled system. Well, I hope there are more faucethubs out there and find they way through these bastards.

Don't get me wrong. I don't want to be rude, but please don't mention banks again. Let we forget about them, for as much as we care.
Peace.

on faucethub members had 0.0 rights, more than 11,000 members were blocked for vague reasons, most of those blocked accounts were $ 50 +
Even if members provided evidence that not they, but owners of (auto)faucets had done something wrong, blocked members remained the victims.
11,000 x $ 50 + = $ 550,000+ !!!!!

according to the TERMS, faucet hub would send the credits back to the faucets in question where the cryptos came from, but it turned out that this never happened.

So look at the TERMS, and you will always see the same texts as * 5.1. We have the right to suspend your account at any time for any valid reason including, but not limited to, abuse of our Terms of Service.

5.2. All suspended accounts will have all their balances reset and no refunds will be given. *

Working with a Fraudscore which don't work correctly.

Faucethub repeatedly admitted to blocked members that they were right and did not blame them, but refused to unblock them. ( i have proof of that)

Then something technical ...
If you e.g. have 10,000 satoshis paid out each time, and you decide later to sell those satoshis, then you pay for every batch of 10,000 satoshis networktransaction fees.
So as an example ... you have 10 x 10,000 satoshis paid out via a micropayment system, you sell the 100,000 satoshis,
then you pay 10 x networktransaction fees.
If you would save up to 100,000 satoshis and then have them pay out, then sell the 100,000 satoshis, then you will only pay 1 x networktransaction fees for those 100,000 satoshis, and that is many times less than 10 batches of 10,000 satoshis.

So in the end you are much better off if you save cryptos to higher amounts.
That only applies to BTC and BTCH.
For other cryptos such as ETH, LTC, Doge, etc., fixed transaction fees apply regardless of the amount of batches involved.

I see, I am pretty sure faucethub wasn't the best option. Nevertheless, any platform can charge the fees it decides to. It is up to you to decide wether you like it or not.
On the other hand, blocking users with no reason is a shame. It is pretty unfair. Nevertheless, I wouldn't speak on behalf of 11000 other users.

But the main thing here is that I don't know why we are talking about faucethub. I just asked a question that Jamboon did no answer, yet. I don't care about Faucethub, Faucetpay, or any other microwallet...I just want to know if Cryptomininggame aims to low minimum threshold for payouts in the future and how. Thank you for your response, anyway.

[Thomasio]

@jamboom
Here's a little bug report you might want to take care of.
Recently you have implemented some kind of auto page refresh or auto update and it has real bad undesired side effects.

When moving the map (with CTRL + mouse) and the auto update kicks in, it locks the moving, meaning even after you release the CTRL key, the map keeps following the mouse.
Even if you move the mouse completely out of the map, when the mouse returns to the map it still scrolls the map and doesn't allow clicking anywhere.
The only way to get out of it is reloading the page (with F5), meaning your auto update requires and additional manual page refresh even if neither of both were required in the first place.

On mobile, where the map doesn't work either way, but you can move only by typing coordinates into the control panel, you can't send drones anymore.
For a short while one still could, but the program would double all commands, meaning unless one did a page refresh in between, from the 2nd drone on, it would always send two drones to the same place.
Since yesterday one cannot send any drones out anymore, it gets stuck at the message "sending ...", but never sends any.
Only moving your player still works and even that one requires a manual page refresh after every arrival or else it will attempt to move the player twice resulting in an error message instead of moving.

[pabloprig]

the site doesn't work HTTP ERROR 500

[FatFork]

the site doesn't work HTTP ERROR 500

I get a 'under maintenance' message so I believe admin is working on it.

"We are working on it...
Be back as soon as possible!
Crypto Mining Game is under maintenance. Be sure that we are working hard to come back soon!"

[jamboom]

the site doesn't work HTTP ERROR 500

Website is back online!
@Thomasio -> Thanks for the report, yer that's something I've also noticed and need to be fixed, javascript bug.

[FatFork]

Hi jamboom!
First of all, thank you for another successful withdrawal.

I have a question about new functionality in the marketplace. What are those thumbs up and thumbs down icons at the top of each item? What is the idea behind this? I don't see any information in the latest news or in My Inbox.

[jamboom]

Hi jamboom!
First of all, thank you for another successful withdrawal.

I have a question about new functionality in the marketplace. What are those thumbs up and thumbs down icons at the top of each item? What is the idea behind this? I don't see any information in the latest news or in My Inbox.

Hi,
You're welcome ^^
This is here to help rating the market offer. It has been updated yesterday and is still under test. Anyway, the purpose is simple: Find out how any kind of offers are considered by players in order to get an idea of average "good" offer stats and regulate the market against bad and scamming offers.
Be aware that as some players are "playing" with scam button, this one might be removed and only thumbs up/down will remains.
Offers with too many thumbs down might be cancelled automatically while offers will lots of thumbs up might be push up to the list.
Have a nice sunday
Jam

[FatFork]

This is here to help rating the market offer. It has been updated yesterday and is still under test. Anyway, the purpose is simple: Find out how any kind of offers are considered by players in order to get an idea of average "good" offer stats and regulate the market against bad and scamming offers.
Be aware that as some players are "playing" with scam button, this one might be removed and only thumbs up/down will remains.
Offers with too many thumbs down might be cancelled automatically while offers will lots of thumbs up might be push up to the list.

So this is based solely on the honesty of other players? I made some offers and got a few thumbs down even though my price is the lowest compared to others and I have sold many times before at these prices. I think the system will be abused since there is no control.
Maybe include some incentives. For example, if a trade is executed, everyone who gave thumbs up is rewarded and everyone who gave thumbs down is penalized.

Have a nice sunday
Jam

You too, Jam. Don't work too hard.

[Thomasio]

This is here to help rating the market offer. It has been updated yesterday and is still under test. Anyway, the purpose is simple: Find out how any kind of offers are considered by players in order to get an idea of average "good" offer stats and regulate the market against bad and scamming offers.
Be aware that as some players are "playing" with scam button, this one might be removed and only thumbs up/down will remains.
Offers with too many thumbs down might be cancelled automatically while offers will lots of thumbs up might be push up to the list.

Hi @jamboom and thanks for this feature, I like it.
I did notice that some users seem to downrate offers not based on the offer, but just because they don't like the name of the one offering it or something like that.

Since these "unfair" ratings will mostly be out of line, meaning for a good offer there will be like 3 thumbs up and one scam rating, and since these out of line scam ratings will mostly be done by the same users, I would suggest keeping track of who gives out of line ratings and if the same user does that a given amount of times, exclude them from rating offers.

There's still a bug in it, an old one though.
If you look at "all offers" and go to page 2 or 3 or so and then set the filter to "just mine" where the list has just one page, it will not show my own offers, it will show "1 offer found" but an empty list.
I have to go back to "all offers", switch there to page 1 and then switch back to "just mine".

Just to tease you a bit ....... try putting up offers in the market as they are offered in your shop, like 1000 crystals, a chest and 8.9HP for 13,000 sat and see what kind of ratings you get for that.

[clearmaker]

Just placed this one on discord

so far rated 1,000+ offers and see what the average prices members accept as good
Bronze crate = 20 sats
Silver crate = 40 sats
Gold crate = 80 sats
Hacking Key = 5 sats
Game Token = 2 sats
Trade Token = 5 sats
Mining Boost = 40 sats
Crystals per 10,000 = 250 sats
CryptoCoinZ per 10,000 = 62 sats
Please note, these are averages, which does not mean that members are willing to give more.                                                                                                                                      Cards: 1 star = 1 sat
2 stars = 2 sats
3 stars = 3 sats
5 stars = 4-5 sats
Here not always amount of stars = amount of sats, for players (attacking) certain cards are worth more than for non players

regarding those scam ratings Thomasio,
Yes, we al see this ... seems to be some members that are not lucky with this rating system ... i think the real traders that earned a lot with trading stuff ... or members that are angry because they get an bad rate.

some other i posted on discord ...

Jamboom wants to delete the scam_button, that will not matter because then actual scams will be posted anyway, instead he better change the scam_button to a report_button with the origin who reported these trades, if punished repeatedly for abuse of this report_button.
What should be considered a scam?
When at least twice as much is asked as usual (average)?
If you do not set a standard, you will continue to receive scam_reports from e.g. non_players (non_attackers) where e.g. a mining pool card only has 2 sats value while for players (attackers) the same card has up to 5 sats value.
So you will eventually have to fix a so-called * average * price.

[Thomasio]

Not sure where you get the numbers from or why people would rate something a scam, but let me put my personal experience in between your numbers, obviously eliminating the numbers I have no experience with.

Gold crate = 80 sats

.... sells for 350 sat usually within an hour

Game Token = 2 sats

... I can't get more than just over 1 sat, usually 20 tokens for 30 sat already takes 6 hours or more to sell

Trade Token = 5 sats

.... 2 sat already doesn't sell, I usually put on sale 200 tokens for 400 sat and it fairly often takes a week or longer without a buyer, until I delete the offer and put it back for a lower price

Crystals per 10,000 = 250 sats

.... 20,000 crystals for 350 sat is the borderline and that frequently takes a day or two to find a buyer

2 stars = 2 sats
3 stars = 3 sats
5 stars = 4-5 sats

..... on that one there seems to be a WILD difference in opinion.
I'm putting offers up that consist of 1x 100 gold cards, 1x 100 silver cards, 4-7x 100 bronze cards, by your count worth between 900 and 1200 sat, I'm offering them for 950 sat, I'm getting almost exclusively scam ratings and they sell within a couple of hours anyway.
I'm guessing that's because the ones rating the offers are not the ones in need of cards.

For a fun fact aside, check card <--> sat offers from both sides, offers to buy cards for sat and then check offers to sell cards for sat.
You will see the SAME offers being rated scam from BOTH sides.
Like selling x cards and offering x sat = scam and buying THE SAME cards for THE SAME amount of sat = still scam.

[clearmaker]

Not sure where you get the numbers from or why people would rate something a scam, but let me put my personal experience in between your numbers, obviously eliminating the numbers I have no experience with.

Gold crate = 80 sats

.... sells for 350 sat usually within an hour

Game Token = 2 sats

... I can't get more than just over 1 sat, usually 20 tokens for 30 sat already takes 6 hours or more to sell

Trade Token = 5 sats

.... 2 sat already doesn't sell, I usually put on sale 200 tokens for 400 sat and it fairly often takes a week or longer without a buyer, until I delete the offer and put it back for a lower price

Crystals per 10,000 = 250 sats

.... 20,000 crystals for 350 sat is the borderline and that frequently takes a day or two to find a buyer

2 stars = 2 sats
3 stars = 3 sats
5 stars = 4-5 sats

..... on that one there seems to be a WILD difference in opinion.
I'm putting offers up that consist of 1x 100 gold cards, 1x 100 silver cards, 4-7x 100 bronze cards, by your count worth between 900 and 1200 sat, I'm offering them for 950 sat, I'm getting almost exclusively scam ratings and they sell within a couple of hours anyway.
I'm guessing that's because the ones rating the offers are not the ones in need of cards.

Thomas, i only calculate the offers from the past 1,400 now and the scam_rates i don't count .. only what the members find a good rate.
Ofcourse i also see some rated bad 5 times still someone seems to buy them.
When i put in 135 cards with 125 one star cards and ask 9999 crystals for that, mostly i sell them the same day ... or asking 199 sats for those cards, getting 1 good and 3 bad rates i still sell them the same day.

It's just an indication what members do on average base the past 36 hr or so.

You and me don't need cards and sell most of them, but all newbies want those cards, we both sell them below the average sells.
What i don't anymore is selling cards with only the 5 stars cards e.g. mining pool, firewall, neutrino and destroyd neutrino, i put them in as bonus with what we call rubbish because we don't attack other players.

I think it's a good start this rating system ... honestly , i miss another rate_button ... the *fair* one, when the average price setup by members for a mining boost = 40 sats and someone put them in for 45  or 50 .. i still should say *fair* instead of *good*.

[Thomasio]

I think it's a good start this rating system ... honestly , i miss another rate_button ... the *fair* one, when the average price setup by members for a mining boost = 40 sats and someone put them in for 45  or 50 .. i still should say *fair* instead of *good*.

I couldn't agree more, the system is good and useful and a "fair" button would be great.

[FatFork]

I think it's a good start this rating system ... honestly , i miss another rate_button ... the *fair* one, when the average price setup by members for a mining boost = 40 sats and someone put them in for 45  or 50 .. i still should say *fair* instead of *good*.

I couldn't agree more, the system is good and useful and a "fair" button would be great.

Yes, a 'fair' button might be a good idea or add a new button for 'great' deals. Although such offers do not last long in the market.
However, I still think it would be good to introduce some incentives for good reviews and penalties for bad ones.

[Thomasio]

Silent updates happening, or a new bug?
Just for the information, did I get it right that

- Game Tokens you get per hour has been reduced from 1 per hour to 1 every 2 hours?
- Energy found in crates has been reduced from 1-2 in bronze and 2-4 in silver crates to 1 in bronze and 1-2 in silver crates?

Another thing where I'm not sure how much that used to be, I just did a Game Token mission level 20 and I found ONE Game Token ...... how many Game Tokens does one find in a level 1 mission now and if that's still one, what's the point of the higher level other than wasting 19 energy?
What about other missions (where I haven't paid attention yet), have the rewards of ALL missions been reduced accordingly?

Is this on purpose, or is this all a bug and needs fixing?

[jamboom]

Silent updates happening, or a new bug?
Just for the information, did I get it right that

- Game Tokens you get per hour has been reduced from 1 per hour to 1 every 2 hours?
- Energy found in crates has been reduced from 1-2 in bronze and 2-4 in silver crates to 1 in bronze and 1-2 in silver crates?

Another thing where I'm not sure how much that used to be, I just did a Game Token mission level 20 and I found ONE Game Token ...... how many Game Tokens does one find in a level 1 mission now and if that's still one, what's the point of the higher level other than wasting 19 energy?
What about other missions (where I haven't paid attention yet), have the rewards of ALL missions been reduced accordingly?

Is this on purpose, or is this all a bug and needs fixing?

Hi Thomasio,

- Game token has always be 1 every 2 hours ^^
- From a 2.1 test version, yer Energy has been changed by mistake to 1 - Crate level (1 for bronze, 2 for silver, etc.). As it's a mistake, will be fixed tomorrow morning gmt, thanks for the report.
- Algorithm for finding inventory items is : $amount = max(rand(1, round($mission['level'] / 4)), 1); // rand 1 to 3 at level 10, rand 1 to 5 at level 20 mission, etc - Nothing have been changed regarding the mission's rewards.

As another player said once, yer, for now, it's not worth it to get game token mission level 20, unless for the XP and bonus provided

Best!

Jamboom

[Thomasio]

Thanks for the info @jamboom