[ANN] [CSD] 1st Offical Open Source XRP FORK "Cascade"

[jubalix]

BUMPING THREAD AS RIPPLE JUST WENT LIVE Sorry NWO your about 3 months late from first, but we can merge threads or something

Cascade

Reserving this for when RIPPLE goes open source, I or whoever else wants to/can launch the XRP [clone] and can use this thread

- Devs
- Designers
- Promoters

Specs:

- Ripple clone with no premine, but some reward as to funding will be offered / considered, as this allows early infrastucutre and deving to be expedited
- seeders
- Mobile app for on the go payments
-?.?.?.?
-Profit

Release:

TBA

budget: 20 BTC for devs etc


If your interested in joining this project/idea, post in the thread.

I think we will have plenty of planing time as we could be waiting a while for XRP open source release.

Edit 1
I also have the repo "XRP" at github.
https://github.com/XRP

Edit 2
same thread in ripple forum.
https://ripple.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=3342&p=14506#p14483

[jubalix]

Reserved

[tob101]

My bet is that they will publish the source code for the public, but will not allow to be used by anyone without their written permission.
in other words, I believe they have been busy filing patents to protect their work. Good luck to anyone waiting for the release to make a clone. My bet is that you will be required to pay royalties if you want to make a clone of XRP. But who know, maybe I'm wrong.

[TheSwede75]

My bet is that they will publish the source code for the public, but will not allow to be used by anyone without their written permission.
in other words, I believe they have been busy filing patents to protect their work. Good luck to anyone waiting for the release to make a clone. My bet is that you will be required to pay royalties if you want to make a clone of XRP. But who know, maybe I'm wrong.

Of course they have patents. They are a damn scam and will always be.

[jubalix]

My bet is that they will publish the source code for the public, but will not allow to be used by anyone without their written permission.
in other words, I believe they have been busy filing patents to protect their work. Good luck to anyone waiting for the release to make a clone. My bet is that you will be required to pay royalties if you want to make a clone of XRP. But who know, maybe I'm wrong.

you could be right, but this may force their hand, as OpenCoin is very reluctant to reveal exactly where they stand with the XRP trademark etc.

[Rippleflip.com]

They already give rippled-sources to partners (like Bitstamp, for example). They don't release the sources publicly because there's still things to do before it's stable.
...But hopefully they release it this year.

[cbeast]

My bet is that they will publish the source code for the public, but will not allow to be used by anyone without their written permission.
in other words, I believe they have been busy filing patents to protect their work. Good luck to anyone waiting for the release to make a clone. My bet is that you will be required to pay royalties if you want to make a clone of XRP. But who know, maybe I'm wrong.

Of course they have patents. They are a damn scam and will always be.

Scam indeed. There isn't any scheme they could have come up with that isn't already open source in the wild. No reason for the secrecy other than fear of being exposed.

[Buffer Overflow]

I wonder which open source license it will be released under?

[jubalix]

I wonder which open source license it will be released under?

some open source is more open source than others!

1984 + 30

[hennessyhemp]

XRP has already been really good to me in that I got it free...and now it's worth several thousand USD.  Scam or not...lots of people making money with it already.

[jubalix]

XRP has already been really good to me in that I got it free...and now it's worth several thousand USD.  Scam or not...lots of people making money with it already.

I have not said XRP is a scam, also I have some XRP, but,  I never had it free had to buy it!!!

[cbeast]

I have not said XRP is a scam, also I have some XRP, but,  I never had it free had to buy it!!!

Maybe you can help me with this property I need to dump. I mean, how many bridges does a guy need anyway?

Seriously? I thought only certain banking VCs bought Ripple because they hate poor people.

[jubalix]

I have not said XRP is a scam, also I have some XRP, but,  I never had it free had to buy it!!!

Maybe you can help me with this property I need to dump. I mean, how many bridges does a guy need anyway?

Seriously? I thought only certain banking VCs bought Ripple because they hate poor people.

I probably worded that wrong, let me try again


This thread is not about whether ripple/xrp is a scam, per se. Rather it is to prepare the a place for the code to go. This may bring the issue to a head faster.

The results of this may shed more light on the true nature of ripple. The result maybe to show XRP's true nature faster.

I have started a similar thread in the ripple forum

https://ripple.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=3342&p=14506#p14483

[hennessyhemp]

XRP is very interesting to me.  It is brilliant in design and theory...but we have yet to see how it will actually behave because there are too many unknown variables.  If it is not open source, while hiding behind a cleverly named "open coin" logo...we can surmise the very name OpenCoin is misleading, if not altogether fraudulent.  The notion that bitcoin is open source is widely advertised, but the general public will believe something called OpenCoin is the same thing, because they have no concept of what is actually going on under the hood.

Until ripple goes open source, I would suggest sitting in the sidelines...the creators can make as much XRP as they want until the code is released and the community is involved.

The fact that this trades against bitcoin, but cannot be mined nor verified outside the network worries me...it's very centralized.

[webr3]

XRP is very interesting to me.  It is brilliant in design and theory...but we have yet to see how it will actually behave because there are too many unknown variables.  If it is not open source, while hiding behind a cleverly named "open coin" logo...we can surmise the very name OpenCoin is misleading, if not altogether fraudulent.  The notion that bitcoin is open source is widely advertised, but the general public will believe something called OpenCoin is the same thing, because they have no concept of what is actually going on under the hood.

Until ripple goes open source, I would suggest sitting in the sidelines...the creators can make as much XRP as they want until the code is released and the community is involved.

The fact that this trades against bitcoin, but cannot be mined nor verified outside the network worries me...it's very centralized.

Rippled is already available to anybody who asks and wants to run it, I have the full source as do circa 100 others at this time. Everyday I see the repo being updated and prepared to be made public.

More XRP cannot be created, the entire thing is build around a fixed and reducing amount of XRP, hundreds of thousands of transactions go through the public ledger each day each one can be traced and verified both manually and cryptographically.

XRP is not mined, nor is it premined, it's a utility of the ripple network. Ripple is not centralized, it has a decentralized and public ledger with multiple nodes on the network already, and more being added daily.

Please do your research instead of wildly inaccurate speculation.

[jubalix]

XRP is very interesting to me.  It is brilliant in design and theory...but we have yet to see how it will actually behave because there are too many unknown variables.  If it is not open source, while hiding behind a cleverly named "open coin" logo...we can surmise the very name OpenCoin is misleading, if not altogether fraudulent.  The notion that bitcoin is open source is widely advertised, but the general public will believe something called OpenCoin is the same thing, because they have no concept of what is actually going on under the hood.

Until ripple goes open source, I would suggest sitting in the sidelines...the creators can make as much XRP as they want until the code is released and the community is involved.

The fact that this trades against bitcoin, but cannot be mined nor verified outside the network worries me...it's very centralized.

Rippled is already available to anybody who asks and wants to run it, I have the full source as do circa 100 others at this time. Everyday I see the repo being updated and prepared to be made public.

More XRP cannot be created, the entire thing is build around a fixed and reducing amount of XRP, hundreds of thousands of transactions go through the public ledger each day each one can be traced and verified both manually and cryptographically.

XRP is not mined, nor is it premined, it's a utility of the ripple network. Ripple is not centralized, it has a decentralized and public ledger with multiple nodes on the network already, and more being added daily.

Please do your research instead of wildly inaccurate speculation.

I am not so much interested in "rippled" but rather the open source for the whole system

my understanding is that rippled is just a particular interface, not the 'guts" of the system, if I grok it right.

[coinerd]

More XRP cannot be created, the entire thing is build around a fixed and reducing amount of XRP, hundreds of thousands of transactions go through the public ledger each day each one can be traced and verified both manually and cryptographically.

Shhhh.  There's a ton of people here that think XRP is a crypto-currency.  If you managed to convince them otherwise the entertainment will end.

[Lohoris]

I am not so much interested in "rippled" but rather the open source for the whole system

my understanding is that rippled is just a particular interface, not the 'guts" of the system, if I grok it right.

As I understand, rippled is the only missing piece to the puzzle actually, the rest (the client) is already open source.

[smoothie]

Did the ripple people give a date for release of their code?

I have my reservations about them releasing it...ever.

[Lohoris]

Did the ripple people give a date for release of their code?

"as soon as we can"

Somewhere else IIRC JoelKatz said he hoped to do that before the end of the year.