[KGC] The future is krugercoin and the future is now! [Official Launch]

[thrassos]

Did some further troubleshooting and the difference start from block 1332352.

Block 1332351 is the same.
http://explorer.cryptopoolmining.com/block/c1ee97c8238918b76db605899e812f17fd62cb7c5387fc3fcd5701cc826b1bb1
http://54.80.151.165/BlockCrawler/block_crawler.php?block_hash=c1ee97c8238918b76db605899e812f17fd62cb7c5387fc3fcd5701cc826b1bb1

Block 1332352 is different.
http://explorer.cryptopoolmining.com/block/676dfbd5b44f351fe43a1fd0e295570890b8b55bedd71583e7ce4f7461339fc7
http://54.80.151.165/BlockCrawler/block_crawler.php?block_hash=b35fd490a613beded6de020d7fdec3fbbb63c0a23adc3140f9118623d1987ba2

It seems that the problem is in block 1332352:

{
    "hash" : "b35fd490a613beded6de020d7fdec3fbbb63c0a23adc3140f9118623d1987ba2",
    "confirmations" : 0,
    "size" : 233642,
    "height" : 1332352,
    "version" : 1,
    "merkleroot" : "c264f7b9f8453f1439b06d375b1be938292a98300d5b2dbd25ab3c008e3af99e",
    "tx" : [
        "39b61d63633b38655479664b1d3ad9620e5755d591953e2aaccbc13474a4f299",
        "1a3cc1c955348d2a7af76ea459738f2a98efeadeeffdde3bd8d1c94dc12f08cd",
        "c8f809e1b8473d237a4caec7c61202b6cede2429c1c38624a4168b016428ba28",
        "ce04cf71b6cfb507ddf565129c74bddd79edea925f35ac7e6f5df5cf95f5896c",
        "7dbd2a478a4a22c751e00e831662eae4b5d5eb192bc38a9d3dc569f88746d965",
        "2d6eb59ba8139a25131ef4febd0123c00208faf8f8584296cef3ebec3327427a",
        "830a7aab1ff04004d17e46a71692d11da74ccad5b7931512f4482fb7b7e44b5b"
    ],
    "time" : 1397665532,
    "nonce" : 2978415616,
    "bits" : "1e04a538",
    "difficulty" : 0.00084088,
    "previousblockhash" : "c1ee97c8238918b76db605899e812f17fd62cb7c5387fc3fcd5701cc826b1bb1"
}

{
    "hash" : "a55922b2e957f876d8143408ac442e020049b954969a668d1df2d124148e3ba2",
    "confirmations" : 0,
    "size" : 93912,
    "height" : 1332352,
    "version" : 1,
    "merkleroot" : "1813ec2a72a92177e6779e2207613e0eabc799b2d9a2b5f238c4fe33c60e28b6",
    "tx" : [
        "190808709d8d78a957cace42ea50a1f96215018bc0163c5f2c3828ed792f52b0",
        "1a3cc1c955348d2a7af76ea459738f2a98efeadeeffdde3bd8d1c94dc12f08cd",
        "c8f809e1b8473d237a4caec7c61202b6cede2429c1c38624a4168b016428ba28"
    ],
    "time" : 1397665537,
    "nonce" : 3281717760,
    "bits" : "1e04a538",
    "difficulty" : 0.00084088,
    "previousblockhash" : "c1ee97c8238918b76db605899e812f17fd62cb7c5387fc3fcd5701cc826b1bb1"
}

{
    "hash" : "676dfbd5b44f351fe43a1fd0e295570890b8b55bedd71583e7ce4f7461339fc7",
    "confirmations" : 10515,
    "size" : 186429,
    "height" : 1332352,
    "version" : 1,
    "merkleroot" : "c9dad72a1c427e15ab7ef53bb6cb8d2e151216a506364b11dc33796bb8d95dfc",
    "tx" : [
        "553d984d4602571517cf8d0a50ccfbd68a764b1d4f8bc2a97bf5264a25ff8cff",
        "c8f809e1b8473d237a4caec7c61202b6cede2429c1c38624a4168b016428ba28",
        "ce04cf71b6cfb507ddf565129c74bddd79edea925f35ac7e6f5df5cf95f5896c"
    ],
    "time" : 1397665525,
    "nonce" : 3253144320,
    "bits" : "1e04a538",
    "difficulty" : 0.00084088,
    "previousblockhash" : "c1ee97c8238918b76db605899e812f17fd62cb7c5387fc3fcd5701cc826b1bb1",
    "nextblockhash" : "8837e2eea34287a1a032fcabba29de5cffaac24f98ac81f216854271dafb1bf3"
}

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[coinmixerr]

2014-04-18 12:05:20
1342896 blocks in cryptopoolmining chain, 1342959 in other one.
Do i get it right - the longest chain is right? So why cryptsy is on the shortest? And what would users do when it's found that they deposited 'fake' KGC on exchange?

[thrassos]

2014-04-18 12:05:20
1342896 blocks in cryptopoolmining chain, 1342959 in other one.
Do i get it right - the longest chain is right? So why cryptsy is on the shortest? And what would users do when it's found that they deposited 'fake' KGC on exchange?

If I am correct from the above timestamps for block 1332352 the correct one should be the 3rd one with the smaller timestamp.

Can Nibiru check this issue?

[thrassos]

...
If I am correct from the above timestamps for block 1332352 the correct one should be the 3rd one with the smaller timestamp.
....

Is it coded in wallet?
In this case this one (1332354) http://54.80.151.165/BlockCrawler/block_crawler.php?block_hash=c1bb7d9c2bb7ce1e2eb322b91190017ea518be55436446d086d0d6a0cb12f50f
 have time 16:25:51
and
http://explorer.cryptopoolmining.com/block/ad9872cd82c9421c5d1c05d3f9f205481962768daa0c6bf711034609237b16b0
have 16:25:52.
Next one:
16:26:00 vs  16:26:09

I got the above data from the wallet dirrectly (rpc command: getblock <hash>). However, I think that the problem started with block 1332352, thus after that there are 2 different blockchains that cannot be compared.

[cyberpitstop]

  it look all forked up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[ozzymax]

Any updates? I was solo mining Kruger up until yesterday, I sent a small test amount to cryptsy which went through ok in the morning, a few hours later sent some more coins to cryptsy and they never arrived. my wallet seems to be about 36 blocks behind the block crawler, is there a solution to this? It looks like i've lost 10,000 KGC
How do I get the wallet onto the correct fork.?

Help!

[paladin281978]

When restore network?

[coinmixerr]

Cryptsy stopped withdraws and deposits till everyone resync.
The only guys mining wrong fork are http://kgc.botpool.net/ . If you have any contacts with these guys - tell them to resync pool wallet, or this shit will never be solved.

[coinmixerr]

Cryptsy stopped withdraws and deposits till everyone resync.
The only guys mining wrong fork are http://kgc.botpool.net/ . If you have any contacts with these guys - tell them to resync pool wallet, or this shit will never be solved.

Ok, i made updated source with right checkpoint:
https://github.com/2chcoin/krugercoins

Can someone compile it for windows? And check for malware too pls.

[thrassos]

Cryptsy stopped withdraws and deposits till everyone resync.
The only guys mining wrong fork are http://kgc.botpool.net/ . If you have any contacts with these guys - tell them to resync pool wallet, or this shit will never be solved.

Ok, i made updated source with right checkpoint:
https://github.com/2chcoin/krugercoins

Can you please provide some route cause analysis, and why the specific checkpoint is the correct one?

[thrassos]

Can you please provide some route cause analysis, and why the specific checkpoint is the correct one?

As I understand, blockchain concept include idea, that the longest blockchain (in case of fork) is the right one.
I chose checkpoint  as random block from the longest chain.

Thank you for the quick answer. Should then the longest blockchain win and take over automatically, or there are also sync issues in the network?

[thrassos]

Thank you for the quick answer. Should then the longest blockchain win and take over automatically, or there are also sync issues in the network?

Before that accident, i thought that standard wallet automatically choose longest blockchain. But now i remembered accident in bitcoin network (when max block size was increased and not all nodes accepted it), and albeit older-version-client chain was longer, Gavin needed to use "dev-key" and personal contacts with pool admins to fix fork. Pools at those time downgraded to older version.

Yes, if I remember correctly they have moved back to version 0.7.

Are there any nodes from the new blockchain in order to try to sync?

[Ouzoman]

Top priority has not the longer chain, but the more difficult one.
That's why they selected the older wallets chain at BTC fork.

[def_ender]

Top priority has not the longer chain, but the more difficult one.
That's why they selected the older wallets chain at BTC fork.

Agreed. So old fork has ~9.2 mh/s, and new one has 33/5 mh/s.
Info from http://54.80.151.165/BlockCrawler/block_crawler.php (new one) and http://explorer.cryptopoolmining.com/chain/Krugercoin (old one).
Here is new wallet node: addnode=109.188.125.77:43333 (paste it into krugercoin.conf and resync).

[Ouzoman]

It's not the bigger hashrate chain, its the more difficult one at one and only one moment of time.
so, we need to set up the moment first. If any pool has mined KGCs alone, it's more than obvious that his chain will have the biggest hashrate.

I just told that if (for example 1 hour after the split):
the first chain has found 3 blocks at 10k diff, and the second has found 2 blocks at 16k diff, the winner should be the second one.

[def_ender]

It's not the bigger hashrate chain, its the more difficult one at one and only one moment of time.
so, we need to set up the moment first. If any pool has mined KGCs alone, it's more than obvious that his chain will have the biggest hashrate.

I just told that if (for example 1 hour after the split):
the first chain has found 3 blocks at 10k diff, and the second has found 2 blocks at 16k diff, the winner should be the second one.

KGC has KGW implemented, so hashrate represents diffilculty, isn'it?

[Ouzoman]

It's not the bigger hashrate chain, its the more difficult one at one and only one moment of time.
so, we need to set up the moment first. If any pool has mined KGCs alone, it's more than obvious that his chain will have the biggest hashrate.

I just told that if (for example 1 hour after the split):
the first chain has found 3 blocks at 10k diff, and the second has found 2 blocks at 16k diff, the winner should be the second one.

KGC has KGW implemented, so hashrate represents diffilculty, isn'it?

It all depends on which moment of time the dev or community will choose to measure the chains.

Anyway, this coin seems to be an unstable one. At previous fork (a month ago) - has anybody restored his deposits in cryptsy?

[teksensei]

OK, where can I mine these on the correct block chain?

[Ouzoman]

Is there any valid chain explorer?
I want to check my transactions to cryptsy

[m0gliE]

Is there any valid chain explorer?
I want to check my transactions to cryptsy

AltExplorer.info has a Krugercoin block explorer.

http://altexplorer.info/chains/KGC/block_crawler.php