Swedish ASIC Miner - KnCMiner - New Lower Priced Entry Model

[Bitcoinorama]

Looks like they listened to you...again!

You voted with your feet (or fingers).

The final specifications for this device are being ironed out now but we can confirm the following.
100GH/s per device.
Maximum 250w
28nm standard cell ASIC Chips (which are being designed exclusively for KnCMiner by ORSoC).
Modular Design allowing for expansion at a later date.
Embeded Linux device to allow for standalone mining.
Shipment begins in September
This device will require an ATX power supply

$1,995.00

https://www.kncminer.com/products/mecrury

Hopefully they will have the customer service in place to deal with the increased potential customer base...

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[Bitcoinorama]

Voting
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Should we produce a device in the range of 500-1000 USD?

Yes. You should produce a smaller device.  61%

No, Stay at the higher end of the market.  20%

I would like to see you produce a larger device.  18%

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Total votes: 2196

[Tigggger]

That's the lowest they can go as that's 1 chip, so they sort of listened (I voted for bigger anyway !!)

[jspielberg]

Looks like they corrected the spelling and pushed out the original shipping date already (to October from September).

https://www.kncminer.com/products/mercury

I am tempted with a September shipping date.  On the fence with all the higher power Jupiters and Saturn's coming out a month earlier.  In this mining game... delivery dates can and do make the difference.

[dogie]

Why does a 1chip version weight 33% more than a 2 chip version?

[Bitcoinorama]

Why does a 1chip version weight 33% more than a 2 chip version?

Casing obviously.

[webjoe]

Why does a 1chip version weight 33% more than a 2 chip version?

Maybe it includes the power supply?  While the Saturn/Jupiter does not.

[Bitcoinorama]

Why does a 1chip version weight 33% more than a 2 chip version?

Maybe it includes the power supply?  While the Saturn/Jupiter does not.

Doubt it. The PSU is only not included due to importing issues with particular countries that seem to delay/decline products shipped with power supplies. Which is why ASIC manufacturers are either shipping without, or giving you the option to ship without a PSU.

[pgbit]

Nice to see expansion option. So chips might be added inside, or does this mean stacking boxes?

[webjoe]

This is going to kill BFL's $2500 50gh/s "pre-orders."  I'm waiting to see how/if they respond.  

[Sy]

Shipment changed to October ^^

[madsusies]

Shipment changed to October ^^

And the lottery this week 1000 units hurry up 

[Rampion]

I gladly see that everybody is cheering and happy, but I will cross post this:

KnC has stated many times that they were looking to aim to the higher segment of the market, because scaling up to massive demand was difficult.

Indeed, if they are big enough is always better to deal with fewer, bigger customers, than more small customers.

The fact they are backtracking so fast looks like a bad omen to me. They already said in a subtle way that the chips order was not placed yet as they were still discussing "how much" with the fab, and figuring out "how many".

I hope this new, smaller unit does not mean they need more  preorders before being able to place the chip order.

Now I will get slaughtered by the wishful thinkers who have wet dreams about KnC delivering in August. Good enough, I know my assumptions are based on rational and cold analysis of facts and not on hopes or emotion driven conclusions.

They definitely backtracked:





2,000 Mercury on stock. Wow. This looks bad to me. You can say they are "listening to the market", but its clear to me that if they had enough orders for Jupiter + Saturn they wouldn't do the additional work required to develop and sell a different, smaller unit, opening the preorders for it in a record time.

IMO, this only means they didn't get enough orders of the previous units. This is starting to look bad.

[Sitarow]

I gladly see that everybody is cheering and happy, but I will cross post this:

KnC has stated many times that they were looking to aim to the higher segment of the market, because scaling up to massive demand was difficult.

Indeed, if they are big enough is always better to deal with fewer, bigger customers, than more small customers.

The fact they are backtracking so fast looks like a bad omen to me. They already said in a subtle way that the chips order was not placed yet as they were still discussing "how much" with the fab, and figuring out "how many".

I hope this new, smaller unit does not mean they need more  preorders before being able to place the chip order.

Now I will get slaughtered by the wishful thinkers who have wet dreams about KnC delivering in August. Good enough, I know my assumptions are based on rational and cold analysis of facts and not on hopes or emotion driven conclusions.

They definitely backtracked:

2,000 Mercury on stock. Wow. This looks bad to me. You can say they are "listening to the market", but its clear to me that if they had enough orders for Jupiter + Saturn they wouldn't do the additional work required to develop and sell a different, smaller unit, opening the preorders for it in a record time.

IMO, this only means they didn't get enough orders of the previous units. This is starting to look bad.

The good thing is that from the posted drawing concept design the systems now look to be modular per chip.

[pgbit]

Where is lottery mentioned for Mercurys on KnC site? I must have missed it.

[sickpig]

Where is lottery mentioned for Mercurys on KnC site? I must have missed it.

just a joke

[pgbit]

ha, i'm a dufus

[Rampion]

Since they have no units available and once the chips come they can order as many wafers as they want, logically speaking you'd have to be a moron to think that the stock numbers they entered in their cart software have any actual information value.

Secondly, they already stated they had enough orders of the previous units and are strictly doing this to help people that cannot afford a saturn to get into mining.

Illogical FUD is illogical.

Yep, so let's stick to hard facts that can be verified by everyone. Please let us know the chips ETA confirmed by the fab, so we can organize another joint trip to Sweden and touch them with our hands, to then reassure the community that everything is on track.

Please let me know ASAP, as this should be known for sure by now give the tight timelines, and we should start booking hotel rooms and plane tickets.

[Rampion]

We are still on track to meet our deadlines of shipping the first boxes in September. We will be providing regular updates in newsletters here and on our site. www.kncminer.com so keep checking regularly so you don’t miss out on any updates.

As long as the newsletters keep saying that I'll be ok

Yep, that sounds super logical. Should I remind you how the BFL's newsletter kept saying "in two weeks", or how the Avalon's one still says "ASIC on time. Business done right."?

[Bitcoinorama]

We are still on track to meet our deadlines of shipping the first boxes in September. We will be providing regular updates in newsletters here and on our site. www.kncminer.com so keep checking regularly so you don’t miss out on any updates.

As long as the newsletters keep saying that I'll be ok

Yep, that sounds super logical. Should I remind you how the BFL's newsletter kept saying "in two weeks", or how the Avalon's one still says "ASIC on time. Business done right."?

They are not them, however if it does prove to be congruent Rampion, you sir can be credited with identifying a trend.