Red trust removing. Conditions.

[kzv]

This topic is my question about: is it ethical to set conditions for tag removing?

For example, if I have tagged user as a merit abuser or as a bot farmer and this user PM me with "Sorry, I won’t do that anymore."...

Is it ethical to put a condition to the user like: "I will remove the tag if you will earn 10 merit from at least 5 users"?

Or I should always ignore such PMs ?

What do you do in such cases?

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[PrimeNumber7]

You should ask yourself if the act or condition that made you decide to add red trust still applies.

You might argue that earning some merit (not bought on the black market) is a sign of changed behavior and is overall a decent forum member.

[Blacknavy]

Some users fall into the mistake of buying merits but If you think he's a qualified user, removing his red trust is your personal decision.

[KTChampions]

This topic is my question about: is it ethical to set conditions for tag removing?

For example, if I have tagged user as a merit abuser or as a bot farmer and this user PM me with "Sorry, I won’t do that anymore."...

Is it ethical to put a condition to the user like: "I will remove the tag if you will earn 10 merit from at least 5 users"?

Or I should always ignore such PMs ?

What do you do in such cases?

Personally, I ignore such messages.
And I consider all this "trade" conditions unfair and a little unethical. The conditions should be the same for everyone - a good trust feedback describes only facts. If a person has done something bad, then subsequent good actions in no way cancel this fact.
Therefore, if a person has changed for the better, then I think it is right to give him a new positive review, but not to remove the old one. This is fair.

[kzv]

Some users fall into the mistake of buying merits but If you think he's a qualified user, removing his red trust is your personal decision.

But suddenly some users consider this as a blackmail
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5211855.msg53419159#msg53419159

[AB de Royse777]

If the feedback left by you then it's your call on how to handle it. I don't think anyone should have any question about it. If you think something will be justified by any condition then go for it.

I would not hesitate if I was you. Also I would not try to be someone's parent as well.

[suchmoon]

Is it ethical to put a condition to the user like: "I will remove the tag if you will earn 10 merit from at least 5 users"?

Declaring such conditions is often counterproductive (cheating etc) so you're probably better off just saying "I'll review it in 3 (or 6 or 12) months" if it's something that you're actually willing to do.

I don't think it's unethical but merit has nothing to do with trust so maybe not the best criteria.

But suddenly some users consider this as a blackmail
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5211855.msg53419159#msg53419159

That thread seems to be started by someone looking for retribution.

Your offer for rocku12345 can't be blackmail since you're not threatening to reveal any secrets and you're not demanding any benefit for yourself, so I don't think that accusation has any basis.

[LoyceMobile]

I've even mentioned such a condition inside a (neutral) tag:

   PM merit begging.
I am willing to remove this once you have earned 12 Merit. Note that I don't mean just receiving 12 Merit, the merited posts have to deserve the Merit too (and I'll be the judge of that). Once you qualify, PM me and refer to this trust rating.

I've also asked someone who wanted a tag removed to create a topic in Reputation, and bump it daily for a week to see what the community thinks about it. He never created the topic and kept asking the same thing, so he ended up on ignore.

[Vod]

What do you do in such cases?

If I have left negative feedback for a no collateral loan, I give them another chance if they don't ask for additional loans, and stay active for 30 days.

Very few people do it.  :/

[dkbit98]

I would give almost anyone another chance, except in case if they are using many farmed accounts for cheating.
I changed some of my red trust to neutral, and I also removed some, also if I made a mistake, or member name and profile where abused by someone else.

It should be noted that some people are also abusing red trust, and using their alt accounts for that.

[Bitcoin_Arena]

It depends on the condition. There some instances where you can really see that the culprit is not getting cocky and is trying as much as possible to change their ways.

I personally would give them a second chance with conditions of course so long as it's not a grave offence like scam

[bitmover]

Or I should always ignore such PMs ?

What do you do in such cases?

In case of merit abuser I would ignore.
I believe that if the user decide to change his behavior he can create a new account and start over.

If he has a legendary account and is selling or abusing merit he just doesn't deserve that rank
 He has to earn it.

Just my opinion

[Maslate]

You can make your own decision, and I think merit abuse is not a big offense, an account deserves a 2nd chance especially if that certain account are use to join forum campaign, that's their life,.. but like I said, it's your decision, you can remove it or not based on your judgement.