Crowdcoin Group Scammers

[CoolWave]

What happened:  I feel like I have been scammed by Crowdcoin Group . I did a translation for them . They first said I will receive 30 CRC . Then they made it 20 and now when I insisted for 30 they refrain from paying .

Scammers Profile Link: Link

Reference Link: Here is the link of Hindi Translation : LINK

Note that it clearly says 30 CRC is oferred . It is a person handling all stuffs .
Amount Scammed: 30 CRC
Payment Method: CRC Tokens
Proof of Payment:
PM/Chat Logs:

Code:

Me, [17.11.17 21:20]
Hi

Luca Paterlini, [17.11.17 21:21]
are you ready to start a new adventure?

Luca Paterlini, [17.11.17 21:21]
:)

Me, [17.11.17 21:22]
hmm, yes

Luca Paterlini, [17.11.17 21:22]
wich is your current job and how much a hour of your time worht?

Me, [17.11.17 21:22]
How long I would be doing this ?

Luca Paterlini, [17.11.17 21:22]
a month than if you are not happy you can resign :)

Me, [17.11.17 21:23]
ok :)

Me, [17.11.17 21:23]
I will still get crc ?

Luca Paterlini, [17.11.17 21:23]
previous question :)

Luca Paterlini, [17.11.17 21:23]
now this is what we have

Luca Paterlini, [17.11.17 21:24]
as soon as we have finished the airdrop we could consider something else

Me, [17.11.17 21:24]
Was on a vacation, now might travel within few days

Luca Paterlini, [17.11.17 21:24]
ok I got your situ

Me, [17.11.17 21:25]
k

Luca Paterlini, [17.11.17 21:28]
created

Luca Paterlini, [17.11.17 21:28]
you manage the others that I have invited are some of the translators

Me, [17.11.17 21:29]
ok

Me, [17.11.17 21:29]
What would be my basic role ?

Luca Paterlini, [17.11.17 21:29]
community manager on telegram

Luca Paterlini, [17.11.17 21:30]
but as well we need to finish the translation tasks

Me, [17.11.17 21:30]
hmm

Luca Paterlini, [17.11.17 21:30]
just be part of the channel for now

Me, [17.11.17 21:30]
ok

Luca Paterlini, [17.11.17 21:30]
than you'll see

Luca Paterlini, [17.11.17 21:30]
next step

Luca Paterlini, [17.11.17 21:30]
translate the ann

Luca Paterlini, [17.11.17 21:31]
under your local language bitcoin section

Luca Paterlini, [17.11.17 21:41]
could you work onto this now?

Me, [17.11.17 21:45]
I am working on it :)

Luca Paterlini, [17.11.17 21:45]
nice

Me, [18.11.17 04:02]
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2419765.msg24763792#msg24763792

Luca Paterlini, [18.11.17 04:27]
nice could you ping me on discord?

Me, [18.11.17 04:34]
Just did

Luca Paterlini, [18.11.17 18:28]
Hi I don't want to interrupt you from modering the telegram channel

Luca Paterlini, [18.11.17 18:29]
wasn't it about discussin crowdcoin?

Me, [18.11.17 18:29]
Ok

Luca Paterlini, [18.11.17 18:29]
do as you prefer

Luca Paterlini, [18.11.17 18:29]
I don't want to tall you what to do

Me, [18.11.17 18:29]
Keep guiding me

Luca Paterlini, [18.11.17 19:47]
do you want to introduce the big news to the community?

Luca Paterlini, [18.11.17 19:47]
hey guys today we have added two media partners to our community @MN_Rank and @MasterNodesPro those will assist us in our journey to become the bigger platform for Cryptocurrency investments.

Luca Paterlini, [21.11.17 15:27]
hi are you alive?

Me, [21.11.17 15:28]
Yes

Luca Paterlini, [21.11.17 15:29]
how can i assist you with your todo list?

Me, [21.11.17 15:42]
What I am left to do btw ?

Luca Paterlini, [21.11.17 15:43]
have you translated in indonesian right?

Luca Paterlini, [21.11.17 15:43]
the bitcointalk ann

Me, [21.11.17 15:58]
Indian

Luca Paterlini, [21.11.17 15:58]
sorry for the error can I have the link here

Me, [21.11.17 16:03]
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2419765.msg24763792#msg24763792

Luca Paterlini, [21.11.17 16:06]
wow none replied :/

Luca Paterlini, [21.11.17 16:06]
have you cited the original one?

Me, [21.11.17 16:38]
yes

Me, [21.11.17 16:39]
The traffic is low there

Luca Paterlini, [21.11.17 17:14]
have you tought where you could share it ? is there other media places where your does your local communitiy goes to get info about cryptocurrencies?

Me, [22.11.17 05:25]
Twitter

Luca Paterlini, [22.11.17 05:26]
cool

Luca Paterlini, [22.11.17 05:33]
are you seriosly talking onto the chat instead of talking to me directly?

Me, [22.11.17 05:34]
Sry, feeling sleepy

Luca Paterlini, [22.11.17 05:35]
please sleap instead of asking payment for someonelse

Luca Paterlini, [22.11.17 05:35]
and suggesting that the coin you are working for have no value

Me, [22.11.17 05:35]
Its not lie that, he indeed needs it

Luca Paterlini, [22.11.17 05:36]
he will paid on the terms he will agree

Me, [22.11.17 05:36]
I haven't received crc

Luca Paterlini, [22.11.17 05:36]
none have you'll receive it once it become available on the 28th

Me, [22.11.17 05:36]
However I love coins

Me, [22.11.17 05:36]
Tokens need gas

Luca Paterlini, [22.11.17 05:37]
our is a coin

Luca Paterlini, [22.11.17 05:37]
not a token

Me, [22.11.17 05:38]
Dats y m der

Luca Paterlini, [22.11.17 05:38]
??

Me, [22.11.17 05:38]
That's why I am There

Luca Paterlini, [22.11.17 05:40]
I don't get you

Luca Paterlini, [22.11.17 05:40]
see you tomorrow so you will be able to explain

Me, [22.11.17 05:41]
Crc is a not  a token thats why i am interested

Me, [22.11.17 05:43]
Philipines translation is done ?

Luca Paterlini, [22.11.17 05:43]
yes

Luca Paterlini, [22.11.17 05:45]
dear genius she is ziggy and she is managing our project

Me, [22.11.17 06:04]
Oh ...

Me, [22.11.17 06:04]
I seriously need a sleep

Luca Paterlini, [22.11.17 14:15]
yes

Luca Paterlini, [22.11.17 17:40]
less rude i don't know becouse we have problem of communication

Luca Paterlini, [22.11.17 17:40]
not becouse he's stupid

Me, [22.11.17 23:13]
Translate and see

Luca Paterlini, [22.11.17 23:14]
?

Me, [22.11.17 23:14]
[In reply to Luca Paterlini]
.

Luca Paterlini, [22.11.17 23:25]
...... i don't get what you are tring to say

Me, [22.11.17 23:33]
Spanish bounty done or not ?

Luca Paterlini, [22.11.17 23:34]
we have one that is working onto it but I am not sure he will deliver

Me, [22.11.17 23:36]
You did not mention any time boundation ?

Luca Paterlini, [22.11.17 23:37]
3 h time if he is not in and him link is not on the ann page the role become availble

Me, [22.11.17 23:38]
3h more ?

Luca Paterlini, [22.11.17 23:38]
3 from now

Luca Paterlini, [22.11.17 23:38]
anyway

Luca Paterlini, [22.11.17 23:38]
how things are going?

Me, [22.11.17 23:38]
Good

Me, [22.11.17 23:38]
I said 24 hrs in grp

Luca Paterlini, [22.11.17 23:38]
what have you done so far today?

Luca Paterlini, [22.11.17 23:38]
yes 24h it works as well

Me, [22.11.17 23:38]
I am in  a train

Me, [22.11.17 23:38]
Ri8 now

Me, [22.11.17 23:39]
What is the link to that public group ?

Me, [22.11.17 23:40]
Can you share ?

Luca Paterlini, [22.11.17 23:40]
the bitcointalk ann

Me, [22.11.17 23:40]
No, this telegram group link

Luca Paterlini, [22.11.17 23:40]
https://t.me/joinchat/BQ3dkwv_jbNyskPJbo_Afg

Luca Paterlini, [22.11.17 23:40]
this?

Luca Paterlini, [22.11.17 23:41]
https://t.me/Crowdcoin

Luca Paterlini, [22.11.17 23:41]
this?

Me, [22.11.17 23:41]
Xactly

Luca Paterlini, [22.11.17 23:41]
cool

Luca Paterlini, [23.11.17 01:32]
please be aware on the channel there is one that wants to destroy the great work we have done so far

Me, [23.11.17 01:41]
Whos dat guy ?

Luca Paterlini, [23.11.17 01:41]
you'll see he's jay

Me, [23.11.17 01:42]
K

Me, [23.11.17 20:10]
Spanish one delivered ?

Luca Paterlini, [23.11.17 20:10]
yes

Me, [23.11.17 20:10]
K

Me, [24.11.17 21:51]
adnane el mahdoud:
hello plz what is target prices further for 2018 2019

Me, [24.11.17 21:51]
?

Luca Paterlini, [25.11.17 14:14]
its a silly question

Luca Paterlini, [25.11.17 14:14]
anyway lower bound 50 upper bound 800 or more

Luca Paterlini, [25.11.17 14:15]
usd dollars

Me, [25.11.17 14:26]
Well it was asked by that guy

Luca Paterlini, [25.11.17 14:27]
yes I have seen it

Luca Paterlini, [25.11.17 14:28]
yes it's each dollar but please write that it's a prevision

Me, [25.11.17 14:30]
K

Me, [27.11.17 18:09]
Luca Paterlini:
on the 29 once we'll reach the block 150

Which block are you talking abt ?

Luca Paterlini, [27.11.17 18:09]
150

Me, [27.11.17 18:09]
I mean whats dat ?

Luca Paterlini, [27.11.17 18:09]
Nov 29

Me, [27.11.17 18:09]
He asked abt pool ?

Luca Paterlini, [27.11.17 18:10]
sure after the sales

Me, [28.11.17 16:22]
Can I have my 30 CRC ?

Luca Paterlini, [28.11.17 19:31]
what was the agreement we have had? continue the conversation on discord

Me, [28.11.17 19:36]
Translation = 30 CRC worth 45 usd btc

Me, [28.11.17 23:57]
Check the lates message in grp

Me, [28.11.17 23:57]
He says,   "But, it's only test network"

Me, [28.11.17 23:58]
What should I say ?

Me, [29.11.17 15:12]
When will I get my coins ?

Luca Paterlini, [29.11.17 15:13]
every month at the end of the month starting with dec

Me, [01.12.17 21:53]
[In reply to Luca Paterlini]
So my 30 CRC ?

Luca Paterlini, [01.12.17 23:37]
yes your next crc for dec are on dec 31

Luca Paterlini, [01.12.17 23:38]
about will be adjusted accordingly with the market rpice

Luca Paterlini, [01.12.17 23:38]
but you wiill get nothing if we are not happy with the work that you have done

Luca Paterlini, [01.12.17 23:38]
what have you done so far?

Me, [02.12.17 01:53]
I have already transacted your stuff.

Luca Paterlini, [02.12.17 01:53]
transacted or translated?

Me, [02.12.17 01:54]
Translated ofc

Luca Paterlini, [02.12.17 01:54]
ok 10 cRC for you but the you disapperad i think

Luca Paterlini, [02.12.17 01:54]
so no more than that

Luca Paterlini, [02.12.17 01:54]
paid as soon as we c

Luca Paterlini, [02.12.17 01:54]
can

Me, [02.12.17 01:56]
?

Me, [02.12.17 01:57]
Are you guys scamming people ?

Me, [02.12.17 02:02]
I want my 30 CRC thats all .

Luca Paterlini, [02.12.17 02:02]
what was the agreement?

Me, [02.12.17 02:03]
Why do you keep asking same question again and agai ?

Luca Paterlini, [02.12.17 02:03]
becouse I want to make you clear that your service is orrible

Luca Paterlini, [02.12.17 02:03]
we are not here to pay for nothing or orrible services

Luca Paterlini, [02.12.17 02:03]
so we'll give you 10 crc on the last day of december

Luca Paterlini, [02.12.17 02:04]
the day where we pay salaries

Me, [02.12.17 02:04]
I want my 30 CRC , no excuses or I am going to open scam accusation

Luca Paterlini, [02.12.17 02:04]
why?

Luca Paterlini, [02.12.17 02:05]
have you provided the service we have agreed

Luca Paterlini, [02.12.17 02:05]
?

Me, [02.12.17 02:05]
What why ? I want my 30 CRC that you had promised , thats all .

Luca Paterlini, [02.12.17 02:05]
promise for what

Luca Paterlini, [02.12.17 02:05]
it wasn't for nothing

Me, [02.12.17 02:06]
Don't waste my time, either pay or get ready

Luca Paterlini, [02.12.17 02:06]
and if you make us waste more time the number will become 0

Me, [02.12.17 02:06]
So you you need a thread

Luca Paterlini, [02.12.17 02:07]
??

Luca Paterlini, [02.12.17 02:07]
show the service that you have done

Luca Paterlini, [02.12.17 02:08]
and the agreement for it

Me, [02.12.17 17:05]
wait for it

Luca Paterlini, [02.12.17 17:07]
waiting

Luca Paterlini, [02.12.17 17:07]
so far you have allways make as wait

Me, [02.12.17 17:07]
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2419765.msg24763792#msg24763792

Me, [02.12.17 17:07]
Never made you wait , Don't be a liar

Luca Paterlini, [02.12.17 17:07]
yes you have

Me, [02.12.17 17:08]
Never

Luca Paterlini, [02.12.17 17:08]
we where waiting your support on discord

Luca Paterlini, [02.12.17 17:08]
and you have not showed yourself

Me, [02.12.17 17:09]
Come on . Our agreement was for translation only

Luca Paterlini, [02.12.17 17:09]
i don't remenber it

Luca Paterlini, [02.12.17 17:09]
none of our agreement was for translation only

Luca Paterlini, [02.12.17 17:09]
and as well your work was so poor that none have replied to it on bitcointalk

Me, [02.12.17 17:10]
If mine is poor then you have not even worked

Luca Paterlini, [02.12.17 17:10]
oh relly?

Me, [02.12.17 17:10]
[In reply to Luca Paterlini]
yes "relly"

Me, [02.12.17 18:00]
बाउंटीज 

निगमित लोगो डिजाइन 200 सीआरसी ($ 300 अमरीकी डालर के लायक)

वेबसाइट के सामने का डिजाइन 600 सीआरसी ($ 900 अमरीकी डालर के लायक)
अनुवाद का प्रस्ताव 30 सीआरसी (मूल्य $ 45 अमरीकी डालर)

स्थानीय भाषा के सामाजिक प्रबंधक और मध्यस्थ
5 सीआरसी से प्रत्येक कैलेंडर माह (मूल्य $ 7.5 USD)

Me, [02.12.17 18:01]
Either pay 30 USD or stay ready

Me, [02.12.17 18:01]
30 CRC*

Luca Paterlini, [02.12.17 19:29]
we do not support threath so will give you 0 as promised

Me, [02.12.17 19:29]
You are scammer. Admit it

Luca Paterlini, [02.12.17 19:30]
no I am professional and you have insult us, threathed us and created disruption of service

Me, [02.12.17 19:30]
And what about me . I have no dignity ?

Me, [02.12.17 19:31]
You insulted me saying my job was poor while you knw the truth

Luca Paterlini, [02.12.17 19:31]
No you as well not able to accept critics

Me, [02.12.17 19:32]
So what is the difference ?

Me, [02.12.17 19:32]
You are responsible for all

Luca Paterlini, [02.12.17 19:33]
that we are the clients so we chose to accept or reject a work

Luca Paterlini, [02.12.17 19:33]
bye

Me, [02.12.17 19:53]
Better say to acam or not

Luca Paterlini, [02.12.17 19:53]
do you now what does scam meanS? do you know what time waster means?

Me, [02.12.17 19:54]
Does and means ? Buddy , you first need to improve your english

Me, [02.12.17 19:55]
And yes you wasted my time

Luca Paterlini, [02.12.17 19:55]
ok no reason to listen to you

Luca Paterlini, [02.12.17 19:55]
have a great day

Me, [02.12.17 19:55]
Yeah, you are right opening a thread now

.[/color][/b]
Additional Notes: His telegram id is @@PaterliniLuca

[Slow death]

you have to realize the following, you have created a thread accusing company X or member X, you do not show evidence so that people understand that you were cheated, are you simply telling your side of the story and waiting for people to believe? I'm not saying that you're not right, maybe you might be right, but the problem is that you do not present proof.
Show the proof, people will believe in you.

[CoolWave]

you have to realize the following, you have created a thread accusing company X or member X, you do not show evidence so that people understand that you were cheated, are you simply telling your side of the story and waiting for people to believe? I'm not saying that you're not right, maybe you might be right, but the problem is that you do not present proof.
Show the proof, people will believe in you.

I have updated the thread and if needed I can also provide chat .

[pugman]

you have to realize the following, you have created a thread accusing company X or member X, you do not show evidence so that people understand that you were cheated, are you simply telling your side of the story and waiting for people to believe? I'm not saying that you're not right, maybe you might be right, but the problem is that you do not present proof.
Show the proof, people will believe in you.

Poor guy he is ,dude. Quite the shit poster, doesn't know how the forum works unfortunately. One, he runs a free service and takes all the credit for himself. Two, willing to use his account and 30 more for bumping ANN threads, doesn't want to agree to the fact that he has evaded from a perma ban previously, and much more things are there which is against his interests.  Here's a summarized version.@CoolWave, here is the format of how to file a scam report, edit the OP and let people know exactly what happened. Be a bit more specific.

Code:

 
[b][color=black]What happened:: [/color][/b]

[b][color=black]Scammers Profile Link: [/color][/b]

[b][color=black]Reference Link: [/color][/b]
[b][color=black]Amount Scammed: [/color][/b]
[b][color=black]Payment Method: [/color][/b]
[b][color=black]Proof of Payment: [/color][/b]
[b][color=black]PM/Chat Logs: [/color][/b]
[b][color=black]Additional Notes: [/color][/b]

[CoolWave]

you have to realize the following, you have created a thread accusing company X or member X, you do not show evidence so that people understand that you were cheated, are you simply telling your side of the story and waiting for people to believe? I'm not saying that you're not right, maybe you might be right, but the problem is that you do not present proof.
Show the proof, people will believe in you.

Poor guy he is ,dude. Quite the shit poster, doesn't know how the forum works unfortunately. One, he runs a free service and takes all the credit for himself. Two, willing to use his account and 30 more for bumping ANN threads, doesn't want to agree to the fact that he has evaded from a perma ban previously, and much more things are there which is against his interests.  Here's a summarized version.@CoolWave, here is the format of how to file a scam report, edit the OP and let people know exactly what happened. Be a bit more specific.

Code:

 
[b][color=black]What happened:: [/color][/b]

[b][color=black]Scammers Profile Link: [/color][/b]

[b][color=black]Reference Link: [/color][/b]
[b][color=black]Amount Scammed: [/color][/b]
[b][color=black]Payment Method: [/color][/b]
[b][color=black]Proof of Payment: [/color][/b]
[b][color=black]PM/Chat Logs: [/color][/b]
[b][color=black]Additional Notes: [/color][/b]

I am not a hero member you self declared 1st world asshole . If you are not blind you can see that . I will update it . I never took "credit" and you have no idea what I do .

[pugman]

you have to realize the following, you have created a thread accusing company X or member X, you do not show evidence so that people understand that you were cheated, are you simply telling your side of the story and waiting for people to believe? I'm not saying that you're not right, maybe you might be right, but the problem is that you do not present proof.
Show the proof, people will believe in you.

Poor guy he is ,dude. Quite the shit poster, doesn't know how the forum works unfortunately. One, he runs a free service and takes all the credit for himself. Two, willing to use his account and 30 more for bumping ANN threads, doesn't want to agree to the fact that he has evaded from a perma ban previously, and much more things are there which is against his interests.  Here's a summarized version.@CoolWave, here is the format of how to file a scam report, edit the OP and let people know exactly what happened. Be a bit more specific.

Code:

 
[b][color=black]What happened:: [/color][/b]

[b][color=black]Scammers Profile Link: [/color][/b]

[b][color=black]Reference Link: [/color][/b]
[b][color=black]Amount Scammed: [/color][/b]
[b][color=black]Payment Method: [/color][/b]
[b][color=black]Proof of Payment: [/color][/b]
[b][color=black]PM/Chat Logs: [/color][/b]
[b][color=black]Additional Notes: [/color][/b]

. If you are not blind you can see that . I will update it .

If you're scammed elaborate the details properly and use the scam format that has been provided. You have updated the thread yes, but there isn't much proof, so do update the chat logs you claim to have. If you use the format people will find it easier to understand what exactly has happened.
Edit: I see you are updating the OP, I do apologize for my impatience.

I am not a hero member you self declared 1st world asshole

1St world asshole? Yes, thank you, I'll gladly accept that I'm an asshole.

I never took "credit"

Sure, you didnt take credit, you only took tips, for the "service" you offered.

you have no idea what I do .

And I thank you and Jesus for not letting me know, I'm better of like this.

[CoolWave]

you only took tips, for the "service" you offered.

I know I deserve it .

[jorneyflair]

You are only releasing a part of the chat log. Plus it's way too early to decide because crowdcoin has not been able to respond to this thread yet. They claim that you haven't offered any support on discord while you claim that you only promised translations only, that's the major dispute here.

If you are right then obviously they should be labelled as scammers, they have to redeem their promises.

However, if the agreement was indeed discord support + translations, then you're in the wrong here.

[CoolWave]

You are only releasing a part of the chat log. Plus it's way too early to decide because crowdcoin has not been able to respond to this thread yet. They claim that you haven't offered any support on discord while you claim that you only promised translations only, that's the major dispute here.

If you are right then obviously they should be labelled as scammers, they have to redeem their promises.

However, if the agreement was indeed discord support + translations, then you're in the wrong here.

You can visit my link of translation and gogle translate it to see the promise .

[CoolWave]

Full Chat logs have been posted .