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December 03, 2017, 11:11:40 AM
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US Senate Moves to Criminalize Non-Disclosure of Cryptocurrency Ownership



The US Senate Judiciary Committee is currently tackling bill S.1241 that aims to criminalize the intentional concealment of ownership or control of a financial account. The bill also would amend the definition of ‘financial account’ and ‘financial institution’ to include digital currencies and digital exchanges, respectively. According to ranking committee member Senator Dianne Feinstein, the proposed bill is needed to modernize existing AML laws.
Changing definitions

The bill would amend the definition of ‘financial institution,’ in Section 53412(a) of title 31, United States Code, to include:

    “An issuer, redeemer, or cashier of prepaid access devices, digital currency, or any digital exchanger or tumbler of digital currency.”

If passed, the bill would likely have far-reaching effects for users of digital currencies both in the US and abroad.
Industry opinions

Several industry commentators have issued their opinions on the proposed law. Tone Vays claimed that he expects a confrontation between the Bitcoin team, including the holders and users, and the US government.

    “It’s bad…I think it’s gonna end in a very confrontational way between Bitcoin—even Bitcoin holders and users—and the US Government.”

In his testimony during the hearing, John A. Cassara claimed that the issue of virtual currencies is interesting:

    “Senator, I’m just glad I had my career when I did because I don’t know what I’d do trying to follow the money when it comes to digital currencies, it’s extremely, extremely challenging…I think if you look at the metrics, the metrics suggest today [that] digital currencies are a small fraction of the threat that we face. That’s not to say it’s gonna be the case in 5-10 years from now. We’re right at a crossroads, and it’s going to be very, very interesting to see what goes forward.”

Earlier reports also indicate that the White House is actively monitoring cryptocurrencies which could only mean more attempts to regulate the world’s first successful decentralized monetary system. With the growing involvement of Wall Street and the ever escalating media attention, it is not surprising that governments are stepping up their attempts to regulate digital currency.

Source: https://cointelegraph.com/news/us-senate-moves-to-criminalize-non-disclosure-of-cryptocurrency-ownership

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December 03, 2017, 11:35:01 AM
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US Senate Moves to Criminalize Non-Disclosure of Cryptocurrency Ownership



The US Senate Judiciary Committee is currently tackling bill S.1241 that aims to criminalize the intentional concealment of ownership or control of a financial account. The bill also would amend the definition of ‘financial account’ and ‘financial institution’ to include digital currencies and digital exchanges, respectively. According to ranking committee member Senator Dianne Feinstein, the proposed bill is needed to modernize existing AML laws.
Changing definitions

The bill would amend the definition of ‘financial institution,’ in Section 53412(a) of title 31, United States Code, to include:

    “An issuer, redeemer, or cashier of prepaid access devices, digital currency, or any digital exchanger or tumbler of digital currency.”

If passed, the bill would likely have far-reaching effects for users of digital currencies both in the US and abroad.
Industry opinions

Several industry commentators have issued their opinions on the proposed law. Tone Vays claimed that he expects a confrontation between the Bitcoin team, including the holders and users, and the US government.

    “It’s bad…I think it’s gonna end in a very confrontational way between Bitcoin—even Bitcoin holders and users—and the US Government.”

In his testimony during the hearing, John A. Cassara claimed that the issue of virtual currencies is interesting:

    “Senator, I’m just glad I had my career when I did because I don’t know what I’d do trying to follow the money when it comes to digital currencies, it’s extremely, extremely challenging…I think if you look at the metrics, the metrics suggest today [that] digital currencies are a small fraction of the threat that we face. That’s not to say it’s gonna be the case in 5-10 years from now. We’re right at a crossroads, and it’s going to be very, very interesting to see what goes forward.”

Earlier reports also indicate that the White House is actively monitoring cryptocurrencies which could only mean more attempts to regulate the world’s first successful decentralized monetary system. With the growing involvement of Wall Street and the ever escalating media attention, it is not surprising that governments are stepping up their attempts to regulate digital currency.

Source: https://cointelegraph.com/news/us-senate-moves-to-criminalize-non-disclosure-of-cryptocurrency-ownership

It's completely understandable that this big country who wants to have the whole world under control also want to have control over BTC,and I do not doubt they will do it.They want to identify all who own or trade cryptocurrency,collect taxes and somehow discourage people from using BTC.

All the more it seems that the granting of bitcoin futures in USA is in order to empower this control.How will this ultimately end is a question for trillion dollars,but I am sure that whatever happens in terms of regulation and control in USA will have an impact on other countries in the world.

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December 03, 2017, 11:50:23 AM
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It's completely understandable that this big country who wants to have the whole world under control also want to have control over BTC,and I do not doubt they will do it.They want to identify all who own or trade cryptocurrency,collect taxes and somehow discourage people from using BTC.

All the more it seems that the granting of bitcoin futures in USA is in order to empower this control.How will this ultimately end is a question for trillion dollars,but I am sure that whatever happens in terms of regulation and control in USA will have an impact on other countries in the world.

It's not just something related to the USA. In basically every well developed economy it's not allowed to not declare any sort of wealth in an attempt to hide that part of your wealth from the authorities. Currently in western Europe where I live it's already a punishable offense to hide any sort of wealth, and thus also crypto wealth. In mild form you get to pay the "owed" tax for each year, and on top of that you get a 100% fine over what you "owe" the government. In a more severe form, you can even be put into jail for a good while. It's insane if you think about it, but that just shows how this system works. In that regard, it can even be seen as the USA being a bit late with catching up.

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The US Senate Judiciary Committee is currently tackling bill S.1241 that aims to criminalize the intentional concealment of ownership or control of a financial account. The bill also would amend the definition of ‘financial account’ and ‘financial institution’ to include digital currencies and digital exchanges, respectively. According to ranking committee member Senator Dianne Feinstein, the proposed bill is needed to modernize existing AML laws.
Changing definitions



Here comes the most "talked" problem with Bitcoin . Since it is so anonymous government and senators can obviously be concerned about its linkage to "money laundering" . Hiding any sort of income is also considered "black money" according to the law . This is something that Bitcoin has to compromise with . There is no hiding from it .
To get widely accepted , the deal has to be from both sides . There will be regulations and there will be proper records of the money one earn with the help of Bitcoin . Otherwise , "Bitcoin getting mainstream in all payment methods " will remain a dream for the time to come.

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December 04, 2017, 05:06:12 AM
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This has been in the senate committee since May/June of this year. Most of the senate have brushed this aside for now and the bill has to do with the transfer of money across international borders. Also, Homeland Security has yet to publish how they would handle their portion of the bill. Until that has been accomplished this isn't going anywhere. Until this starts to get steam in congress, both houses, then this shouldn't be an issue.

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The article is click-bait. The title is false and is hardly relevant to the article (which itself doesn't even say much). Among the bitcoin-related media sites, CoinTelegraph is one of the worst.

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