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July 06, 2013, 06:23:29 AM
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Hi,

I've been watching the value of BTC drop and it's dropped to the lowest I've seen it in months. What are the general causes of this and will it drop further? Or, once ASIC finally 'hit' the market, and if BTC gets on the exchange, will it smoothen' and will the price rise back to I'm guessing a rough $120 value?

What if PayPal decides to implement BTC?

I personally think now is the time to buy if you aren't getting into mining.

Thoughts?

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jmevz

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July 06, 2013, 06:38:01 AM
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We all know the extraordinary fundamentals here. If your view is long term don't bother trying to pick a bottom.
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July 06, 2013, 06:38:32 AM
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paypal will never implement bitcoin.
Bitcoin is the killer of paypal
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July 06, 2013, 06:59:57 AM
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I opened a buy order at around $50, but I doubt it'll reach that low in the near future

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July 06, 2013, 07:30:23 AM
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If I had the money to spare, I would seriously invest every penny.

I stated shortly after the 266 bubble that we would hit 60, but I lost faith in that prediction.

In retrospect, I wish I had kept faith and waited to buy at what we're at now, I bought in 117
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July 06, 2013, 07:57:55 AM
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not to worry, just relax and wait!
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July 06, 2013, 08:01:56 AM
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If I had the money to spare, I would seriously invest every penny.

I stated shortly after the 266 bubble that we would hit 60, but I lost faith in that prediction.

In retrospect, I wish I had kept faith and waited to buy at what we're at now, I bought in 117

I buyed just 1 bitcoin when it was at 14 €, I paid 18 €, I thinked I will never recover my investment, then, I goes exponentional until the 266 $, We just need to trust more on the coin, I will reach lots more than 117. Just be patient and keep confident.

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July 06, 2013, 08:04:54 AM
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I believe it's going to drop a bit further, maybe to $40 or even $30. When ASICs start hashing many people will want to recoup part of their investment by selling their freshly mined BTC, putting a sell pressure on the market and dropping the price. OTOH, the EU may randomly decide to take money out of people's bank accounts which may lead to new rally driving the price up. Personally, I'm going to wait another couple of weeks before buying in.

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July 06, 2013, 08:08:36 AM
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If you go to http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/mtgoxUSD#rg60ztgSzm1g10zm2g25zv you will see that the down trend is still very much in play. Buying now is gambling. wait for the trend to turn first, then ride it back up, "the trend is your friend" yes you will miss the bottom if you wait for the trend to form.
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July 06, 2013, 08:20:22 AM
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http://www.bitcoinity.org/markets is really neat and shows depth.
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July 06, 2013, 08:23:11 AM
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If you go to http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/mtgoxUSD#rg60ztgSzm1g10zm2g25zv you will see that the down trend is still very much in play. Buying now is gambling. wait for the trend to turn first, then ride it back up, "the trend is your friend" yes you will miss the bottom if you wait for the trend to form.

Watching for that kangaroo tail?

From what I can tell so far, bitcoin doesn't always play by the normal market rules.

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July 06, 2013, 09:16:03 AM
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Thanks, bitfromit great graph have added it to favorites, pity about the colours though, I can hardly see some of the info on my monitor.
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July 06, 2013, 09:19:50 AM
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Good coins at lower prices would say do some hedges instead of chasing the tails bottom
5 BTC at 60
5 BTC at 50
5 BTC at 40
Or a variant you can change the numbers based on where you think true price is

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July 06, 2013, 09:22:51 AM
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Thanks, bitfromit great graph have added it to favorites, pity about the colours though, I can hardly see some of the info on my monitor.


You can change it to white "light version" in top right.
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July 06, 2013, 09:45:39 AM
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"Re: Is Now The Time To Buy?"

Interesting to note whoever is behind these has not panicked, all funds are still in place :

http://bitcoinviews.com/bitcoin-top-10-rich-list-june-2013/

Listed the first three because of annoying ads in above link :

http://blockchain.info/address/1933phfhK3ZgFQNLGSDXvqCn32k2buXY8a (111,111.12458933 BTC)
http://blockchain.info/address/17UUsmejDsjJEtbRcotd289ADp7ZdanH5k (92,764.287339 BTC)
http://blockchain.info/address/1FeexV6bAHb8ybZjqQMjJrcCrHGW9sb6uF (79,957.04211601 BTC)
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July 06, 2013, 09:51:04 AM
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"Re: Is Now The Time To Buy?"

Interesting to note whoever is behind these has not panicked, all funds are still in place :

http://bitcoinviews.com/bitcoin-top-10-rich-list-june-2013/

Listed the first three because of annoying ads in above link :

http://blockchain.info/address/1933phfhK3ZgFQNLGSDXvqCn32k2buXY8a (111,111.12458933 BTC)
http://blockchain.info/address/17UUsmejDsjJEtbRcotd289ADp7ZdanH5k (92,764.287339 BTC)
http://blockchain.info/address/1FeexV6bAHb8ybZjqQMjJrcCrHGW9sb6uF (79,957.04211601 BTC)

That's worth a thread label it strong hands or something Smiley

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July 06, 2013, 09:57:36 AM
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I really think Silk Road alone holds bitcoin at at least $30. The media hype really helped advertise Silk Road (despite their detest) so I don't believe it could possibly drop below $30.

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July 06, 2013, 11:45:02 AM
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This post might seem to lead far, but I try to explain the best I can, why I think this time is as good as any for buying Bitcoins Wink
And sorry if the post looks bulky - I'm no native speaker...

I've been watching (and mining) bitcoins since early 2011. And all I can say about the time to buy or sell them is the same I could say about other stuff that is traded at exchanges: you never _know_ when it is the right point of time to buy or sell, because you can never know what happens next and how the market will reflect to news or other changes.
From my point of view bitcoins (and all other cryptocoins) are not yet in the state of currency and have a speculative risk. But one day they might be and that is why people are interested in having them. It is a bit like taking part in a raffle; you spend money for some tickets and hope that will be something worth in the future.
Bitcoins have a great potential for achieving this.
Mtgox is - despite all the troubles that have been and will be - a quite reliable exchange. An exchange is necessary as long as the can't be traded for something else but for money.
Bitcoins have started being mined on CPUs. CPU are quite universal. Even if you have had no computer and had bought one just for CPU mining of Bitcoins it wouldn't have been worthless after the GPU miners came to market and pushed the CPU miners out because they have been more efficient than the CPU miners.
Haveing advanced to GPU mining people had to have a proper graphic card for GPU mining. Less universal than a CPU but still useful for playing games.
The next advance was FPGAs. Quite specialized and not really universal though programmable for some thing.
The last evolutionary step is on its way with ASICS pushing into the market. With ASICS you can do nothing but things they have been made for, e.g. mining Bitcoins (and eventually other crptocoins that use the same algorithms). With each evolutionary step there was an increase of hashing power or at least a significant increase of energy efficiency for mining the Bitcoins. And the more you ascended in the hardware evolution of mining the more you had to put at risk - as the one who developed hardware and as the one who tended to buy specialized hardware. And over time the hashing power grew and grew...
What you can read from the things that happened in the past is, that Bitcoins have become more and more important and people started investing money in mining Bitcoins more efficiently (in terms of the amount per time and the needed energy per Bitcoin). And as the difficulty to mine new Bitcoins increased and people obtained less Bitcoins per hashrate, the need for buying Bitcoins was rising. And this might continue with the lots of ASIC miners pushing in the Bitcoin network. The difficulty will rise and so might the price that is payed at exchanges. But I do not expect that to be in a direct correlation. It has rarely been a direct correlation in the past. But in the end the rising difficulty combined with the broader perception of Bitcoins might be a reason for rising prices in the future. The number of Bitcoins available (at the moment and in total) is limited. If more people are interested in buying them than people in selling them, the price per Bitcoin must rise according to machinery of the market.

I don't want to encourage you to buy Bitcoins saying is is a safe deal and they will rise for sure, etc. There are threats to the Bitcoin network and not only chances. But I wanted to explain why I see a chance for them to rise. If you spend only money you can afford to lose, money you can put to jeopardy, then it seems to be no bad idea to buy them before even more ASIC miners are in the newtork. Geared to long-term profitability it might not be bad to have some Bitcoins in the pocket.
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July 06, 2013, 11:45:48 AM
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No wait till night, price will go more down.

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July 06, 2013, 11:52:44 AM
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If you go to http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/mtgoxUSD#rg60ztgSzm1g10zm2g25zv you will see that the down trend is still very much in play. Buying now is gambling. wait for the trend to turn first, then ride it back up, "the trend is your friend" yes you will miss the bottom if you wait for the trend to form.

This man has the right of it. If your looking for a bottom your just going to get frustrated because odds are you will blink and miss it.

If u are able to check in regularly the wait till the trend turns else buy soon and just wait it out.
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