Avalon Problem : Listing of pleople not delivered here

[Wayne_Chang]

I agree with Yifu here, and you guys are way too harsh. I've sold maybe 30k orders b2c and it drains the life out of you. The only transactions you here are the bad ones, and in the btc world that must be 10fold.

There is seriously no way to describe how b2c makes you feel when its bad.

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It's especially annoying that, even after Yifu posts and updates neotrix's ticket to high priority, neotrix STILL complains about it and wants more information.

How does he think Batch 3 people feel, who are being told that Batch 3s will be shipped after/during chip shipments, when they were ordered way before that?

I fall into that category (Batch 3), btw, and I haven't complained once. It solves nothing. All you can do is be patient.

Not agree. Complaint is not for the victims themselves. Posting a thread to complain is also a way to tell or remind other people who maybe can help you or maybe still interest in buying a miner or chips from these guys.

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[ftping]

I agree with Yifu here, and you guys are way too harsh. I've sold maybe 30k orders b2c and it drains the life out of you. The only transactions you here are the bad ones, and in the btc world that must be 10fold.

There is seriously no way to describe how b2c makes you feel when its bad.

+1

It's especially annoying that, even after Yifu posts and updates neotrix's ticket to high priority, neotrix STILL complains about it and wants more information.

How does he think Batch 3 people feel, who are being told that Batch 3s will be shipped after/during chip shipments, when they were ordered way before that?

I fall into that category (Batch 3), btw, and I haven't complained once. It solves nothing. All you can do is be patient.

Not agree. Complaint is not for the victims themselves. Posting a thread to complain is also a way to tell or remind other people who maybe can help you or maybe still interest in buying a miner or chips from these guys.

Posting a complaint thread is one thing. Hammering one person every 5 minutes with posts and PMs is another.

Dunno, siding with Yifu on this one. It sucks that we are in the dark, but like I said, there is nothing we can do.

[Wayne_Chang]

I agree with Yifu here, and you guys are way too harsh. I've sold maybe 30k orders b2c and it drains the life out of you. The only transactions you here are the bad ones, and in the btc world that must be 10fold.

There is seriously no way to describe how b2c makes you feel when its bad.

+1

It's especially annoying that, even after Yifu posts and updates neotrix's ticket to high priority, neotrix STILL complains about it and wants more information.

How does he think Batch 3 people feel, who are being told that Batch 3s will be shipped after/during chip shipments, when they were ordered way before that?

I fall into that category (Batch 3), btw, and I haven't complained once. It solves nothing. All you can do is be patient.

Not agree. Complaint is not for the victims themselves. Posting a thread to complain is also a way to tell or remind other people who maybe can help you or maybe still interest in buying a miner or chips from these guys.

Posting a complaint thread is one thing. Hammering one person every 5 minutes with posts and PMs is another.

Dunno, siding with Yifu on this one. It sucks that we are in the dark, but like I said, there is nothing we can do.

At least Avalon team still holds their base line. Hope go luck for these guys who still waiting for their batch#1 & batch#2 machines.

[pajak666]

Hmm let's think, you have paid over 7500$ for unit worth 1200$ (asic technology research included), just to get it right about time even with small delay.
Instead they have build themself new facility with our money.


Nah! it's over two months delay and no sign of batch #3 units (just empty promises) until they will figure out some sort of refund for cheated batch #3 customers they should be called scammers same as BFL, they just have used your money for something else than you have paid for.
In some countries this is indeed a SCAM and it is regulated by law.

[Duffer1]

Is all of batch two shipped? (except a few problem cases?)

[pajak666]

Is all of batch two shipped? (except a few problem cases?)  Should I submit a help ticket (where would I do that?)

at Chinese court probably

[ftping]

Is all of batch two shipped? (except a few problem cases?)  Should I submit a help ticket (where would I do that?)

Yes, B2 is shipped AFAIK. Unless you are asking for a refund, no point in submitting a help ticket for Batch 3. They'll ship when they ship. We have not been told when.

[neotrix]

I agree with Yifu here, and you guys are way too harsh. I've sold maybe 30k orders b2c and it drains the life out of you. The only transactions you here are the bad ones, and in the btc world that must be 10fold.

There is seriously no way to describe how b2c makes you feel when its bad.

+1

It's especially annoying that, even after Yifu posts and updates neotrix's ticket to high priority, neotrix STILL complains about it and wants more information.

How does he think Batch 3 people feel, who are being told that Batch 3s will be shipped after/during chip shipments, when they were ordered way before that?

I fall into that category (Batch 3), btw, and I haven't complained once. It solves nothing. All you can do is be patient.

Not agree. Complaint is not for the victims themselves. Posting a thread to complain is also a way to tell or remind other people who maybe can help you or maybe still interest in buying a miner or chips from these guys.

Posting a complaint thread is one thing. Hammering one person every 5 minutes with posts and PMs is another.

Dunno, siding with Yifu on this one. It sucks that we are in the dark, but like I said, there is nothing we can do.

I opened 3 or 4 ticket only in the 5 months following  my order....which was my mistake aparently as I forgot to reopen a new ticket 5 month later...So dont say I sent him thousands of ticket. I opened this thread to try to wake up them before me and some others open a complaint about his company and himself. Sound fair

Also yes we understood Yifu Dont like B2C, then why he did it ? Ah yes, because he was needing our money to fund the project. Then we are not customers but investors, and B2c is out of thread there.

I keep this thread updated cause First It looks like I'm not alone in this case, then yes my order is high priority and so ? Some html change in the shop to display me this message should make me happy? I said I want to be delivered. Step 1 was to be listed and it took 5 months. Now let see how long to units are sent... To see how far goes this bad joke...

[iammagicmike]

First of all, let me say I had big love for Avalons and trust, however not anymore...

Ordered 2 February in some of first of batch 2. 2 avalons Paid with walletbit...

I have no reply to any of my tickets, only one reply at 4 th february telling me all is fine you will receive items. I have now stoppped to hope I will receive them someday...Anyway I even not sure avalon have the right adress for delivery as their website was buggy when we ordered in first...

So Does somebody know if Avalon is a registered company? At least I can try to complaint somewhere as they dont seem willing to reply us as customers.

However I can still to open a complain directly against avalon owner as his real name is well know in communauty. I'm looking on this side for now.

Actually even if Avalon delivered to most. Still some people are ignored while we talk about thousands USD for each. So I think AVALON deserve a scam tag until they fix all problem they have with some customers. A scam is something which dont deliver it promise to all people who paid for. This is actually the case for Avalon as me and many people are stuck in the limbo...

Bitsyncom / Avalon is not a scam simply because you have not received your unit.  Many others have.  You are going about this the wrong way, and it will probably make things worse for you.

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I'm not saying OP doesn't have a reason to be upset, I'm just saying that Avalon is not a scam until it's been a year of douchebag comments and no deliveries.

[Bitcoinorama]

First of all, let me say I had big love for Avalons and trust, however not anymore...

Ordered 2 February in some of first of batch 2. 2 avalons Paid with walletbit...

I have no reply to any of my tickets, only one reply at 4 th february telling me all is fine you will receive items. I have now stoppped to hope I will receive them someday...Anyway I even not sure avalon have the right adress for delivery as their website was buggy when we ordered in first...

So Does somebody know if Avalon is a registered company? At least I can try to complaint somewhere as they dont seem willing to reply us as customers.

However I can still to open a complain directly against avalon owner as his real name is well know in communauty. I'm looking on this side for now.

Actually even if Avalon delivered to most. Still some people are ignored while we talk about thousands USD for each. So I think AVALON deserve a scam tag until they fix all problem they have with some customers. A scam is something which dont deliver it promise to all people who paid for. This is actually the case for Avalon as me and many people are stuck in the limbo...

Bitsyncom / Avalon is not a scam simply because you have not received your unit.  Many others have.  You are going about this the wrong way, and it will probably make things worse for you.

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I'm not saying OP doesn't have a reason to be upset, I'm just saying that Avalon is not a scam until it's been a year of douchebag comments and no deliveries.

I wouldn't go that far. I'd say as far as ROI becomes in achievable, which is starting to look likely unfortunately...

[bobili]

It's not a scam everything will be ok... don't worry if you have confirmation's you will get it...
Avalon is true and legit...

[dogie]

I agree with Yifu here, and you guys are way too harsh. I've sold maybe 30k orders b2c and it drains the life out of you. The only transactions you here are the bad ones, and in the btc world that must be 10fold.

There is seriously no way to describe how b2c makes you feel when its bad.

If Yifu shipped instead of mining with customer gear, people wouldn't be nearly as upset.
Batch 1 dudes have gotten raped by Yifu's failure to deliver, his failure to keep his word, yet the victims are supposed to be congenial?
If they are pissed, it is no one's fault but their own?

Bulls#!+

And what about the other 100s who have made $100k a unit? The thanks you give to him for not taking literally as much network as he wanted, and again for B2 and 3. He gave away his own chance to be rich so you guys could, yet you QQ because of a few orders with logistics problems.

[erschiessen]

I agree with Yifu here, and you guys are way too harsh. I've sold maybe 30k orders b2c and it drains the life out of you. The only transactions you here are the bad ones, and in the btc world that must be 10fold.

There is seriously no way to describe how b2c makes you feel when its bad.

If Yifu shipped instead of mining with customer gear, people wouldn't be nearly as upset.
Batch 1 dudes have gotten raped by Yifu's failure to deliver, his failure to keep his word, yet the victims are supposed to be congenial?
If they are pissed, it is no one's fault but their own?

Bulls#!+

And what about the other 100s who have made $100k a unit? The thanks you give to him for not taking literally as much network as he wanted, and again for B2 and 3. He gave away his own chance to be rich so you guys could, yet you QQ because of a few orders with logistics problems.

What about the folks that missed out on $100k because of whatever reason?
Yifu could give a shit less about them.

If he effed me out of those earnings, then had the balls to treat me the way he treats folks that dare question him, I would be awful pissed. Might not act in the most Christian manner, you know?

You need to get off of the Avalon vs BFL schtick.
Incompetence is rampant in both.
Both exude scamminess.
Both have spokesmen that act like their shit don't stink and that tneir customers are Little People.
Let Them Eat Cake!

Well, we came with Cake and Cock, and we're all out of cake.

[iammagicmike]

I agree with Yifu here, and you guys are way too harsh. I've sold maybe 30k orders b2c and it drains the life out of you. The only transactions you here are the bad ones, and in the btc world that must be 10fold.

There is seriously no way to describe how b2c makes you feel when its bad.

If Yifu shipped instead of mining with customer gear, people wouldn't be nearly as upset.
Batch 1 dudes have gotten raped by Yifu's failure to deliver, his failure to keep his word, yet the victims are supposed to be congenial?
If they are pissed, it is no one's fault but their own?

Bulls#!+

And what about the other 100s who have made $100k a unit? The thanks you give to him for not taking literally as much network as he wanted, and again for B2 and 3. He gave away his own chance to be rich so you guys could, yet you QQ because of a few orders with logistics problems.

What about the folks that missed out on $100k because of whatever reason?
Yifu could give a shit less about them.

If he effed me out of those earnings, then had the balls to treat me the way he treats folks that dare question him, I would be awful pissed. Might not act in the most Christian manner, you know?

You need to get off of the Avalon vs BFL schtick.
Incompetence is rampant in both.
Both exude scamminess.
Both have spokesmen that act like their shit don't stink and that tneir customers are Little People.
Let Them Eat Cake!

Well, we came with Cake and Cock, and we're all out of cake.

I don't know who you are or what you're about, but your rage post is actually very funny to me.  I'm not laughing at your misfortune, I'm laughing at your response to it.  I'm sorry to hear that you are currently out of cake.

[neotrix]

Well

My 2 units has been sent 2 days ago from China Being, arrived today at home.

DHL also handle the VAT for me and I had to pay directly to DHL. I paid 90 usd VAT for the 2 units.

Thanks to avalon for have finally solved my problem. Let open box and plug all now to see how thing are going. I also hope others customers with same problem have seen their problem updated like mine.

[iCEBREAKER]

glad to hear you got them.

what condition are they in?  Dusty and used or new and shiny?

thanks for standing up for yourself and other customers. And for confirming delivery as promised.

the submissive weak Avalon suck-ups on this thread are so funny.  Especially when they use BFL to set the bar as low as possible (on the ground) for expectations.

remember when Avalon was all like 'we cherish our early batch2/3 retail customers and love them for trusting us?'   

can't wait until the internal turmoil at Avalon goes public.  We always need moar drama around here!   

[neotrix]

glad to hear you got them.

what condition are they in?  Dusty and used or new and shiny?

thanks for standing up for yourself and other customers. And for confirming delivery as promised.

the submissive weak Avalon suck-ups on this thread are so funny.  Especially when they use BFL to set the bar as low as possible (on the ground) for expectations.

remember when Avalon was all like 'we cherish our early batch2/3 retail customers and love them for trusting us?'  

can't wait until the internal turmoil at Avalon goes public.  We always need moar drama around here!  

Yes I remind and thats why sometime to much is...to much...

Well about my 2 units.

First thing wierd but good for me : they arrived in 40 hours from China BEIJING. DHL also paid the custom for me ( only 90 usd) without request me ( which I was willing, Better they handle than me). The total cost of both declared value was 500 usd so I paid 90 usd tax...Thanks Yifu for that Im anyway usual to such tricks about value...and Love it. I had to pay directly the 90 usd to DHL in hands ( the provided me the custom paperwork...)

SO it took 40 hours from BEIJING to phuket in my hand.

The 2 units are shinny, looks new not used, had plastic protection on side face...

Well I'm lucky and I hope other who still waiting will be too soon.

They actually running smoothly since few hours, I monitor them for now and will writte a report about.

[iCEBREAKER]

sounds good, look forward to the next report.

Let me know when I can rent a beach house from you with BTC!   

[candoo]

I love the service of DHL. They manage all the customs shit for you. They are so nice.

BTW you can win my avalon for only 1 btc !(raffle)

[neotrix]

sounds good, look forward to the next report.

Let me know when I can rent a beach house from you with BTC!   

You can already