[Group buy - please read] 1000 pcs USB Erupters - EU/Int - price 0.89BTC -

[vdragon]

AT THIS POINT THE GROUP BUY IS OFFICIALLY CLOSED. Payments will only be accepted from people who are already on the list and from the few people that are waiting on gox etc... There might be some pieces left - read below, BUT FOR PEOPLE WHO DIDNT CONTACT ME BEFORE OR TALKED TO ME, PLEASE DONT TRANSFER BTC BEFORE YOU TALK TO ME

Theres 0 LEFT for new buyers, I am only waiting one Anonymous (waiting on gox) for payment.

***We had gapthemind lowering his order, its explained on page 4 in case you are wondering***



I am organizing a group buy for 1000 ASICMINER ERUPTER USB miners. This group buy is supposed to be for Europe only, but seems I have to include some international buyers to get to the number (original idea was not to take other parts of the world). Erupters will be bought from yxt.
I have talked to him, managed to get a good price of 0.89 BTC, which is about 65 euro (85 USD for those who like USD more) on this day (2013.7.12.). It does about 330 MHs which is the hashrate for an good 7850 card,
that costs about 130 euro, and consumes about 50 times more power! So its basicly a chance for everyone to replace GPUs.

Small comparison:
AMD 7850 - 330 MHs, 110w, costs 100 eur from ebay (used), uses ~ 960kW per year
USB Erupter - 330 MHs, 2.5W, costs 50 eur (brand new), uses ~ 22kW per year

This price is excluding shipping to your place, I will include the postage prices later. I myself would be buying 300 erupters, hence the reason to make a big group buy. I will be accepting BTC, as well as IBAN/SEPA transfers
(since btc is very volatile these days, extra 3% will be added in case of money transfer so that I dont end up paying for other peoples erupters). When the transfer reaches me, I will provide the BTC for those who used bank transfer.
Also accepting cash in hand in 6702 Szeged, Hungary (we can arrange the time). I will also put up an advertisment on some Hungarian boards to get things going faster.

IMPORTANT: People from EU dont have any import taxes or problems with customs, since this is shipping from EU!

Bitcoin address used is 1NoW8WSMkkCPb1xRAN3oLQXo5QmC8Lvw7w

In case of sending btc, please use a wallet where you can sign your trasfer, because I have no other way to prove who sent what. Transaction signing explained here
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=195647.msg2291965#msg2291965. Keep the messages clean, something like - forum user name, real name, address for shipping, shipping method, number of devices

So the numbers are like this

1 piece - 0.89 BTC
2 piece - 1.78 BTC
5 piece - 4.45 BTC
10 piece - 8.9 BTC
20 piece - 17.8 BTC
50 piece - 44.5 BTC
100 piece - 89 BTC

And so on... On top of this you have postage. Local pickup will also be possible in 6702 Szeged, Hungary.

People who want to pay via IBAN/SEPA transfer, pm/email me for details, I am not posting that in public.

I am writing only the postage for EU. Theres 2 types, regular, not insured and GLS. Since my company sends a lot via both post offices, I have some better terms.

Regular Hungarian post for up to 10 pieces costs 4 euro for package, it has to be signed for, and is delivered in 5 bussines days anywhere in EU. Not insured.
Regular Hungarian post for up to 100 pieces costs 12 euro for package, it has to be signed for, and is delivered in 5 bussines days anywhere in EU.Not insured.
GLS - with tracking, delivered in 2 bussines days costs 11 euro for package with up to 10 pieces, insured up to 200000 Ft (~670 euro).
GLS - with tracking, delivered in 2 bussines days costs 35 euro for package with up to 100 pieces, insured up to 1000000 Ft (~3300 euro).

Shipping will be calculated into BTC on the day of sending, and I will be asking everyone to pay for their chosen shipping method - the reason to do this is BTC price volatility these days. This is one more reason sign your message correctly!

VERY IMPORTANT: This group buy will be running for 3 weeks or less - max till 2013.7.28. Sunday, midnight, if the number is reached earlier, it will be in the thread. When it is reached I will be placing an order with yxt, and we will be updated on when the delivery will
happen. He assured me that he has enough in stock, so it should be not more than a week after it is paid.

Don't be alarmed if I dont answer your questions the same minute, I also do other things in my life, besides reading my emails and forum.

P.S. 1. In an unlikely situation, if this group buy fails, returns will be done in BTC, whether you payed in BTC, SEPA/IBAN or cash.
P.S. 2. I don't do wishes on colors - its important to get the miners, this is not a fashion show!
P.S. 3. I am not sending accesories like USB hubs, Raspbery Pi and so on... Only miners.
P.S. 4. Please keep the questions like "What is this","How does it work" and similar to yourself - If you dont know what it is exactly, look up the
         threads on the forum, theres plenty. I am only here to try and organize a group buy, so that everyone gets a lower price
P.S. 5. Some people asked if orders can be canceled - yes they can, but if you make up your mind once, don't bother messaging me again later that you want in again




CURRENT ORDERS
Name                Qty            Shipping        Type of shipping chosen       Bitcoin Paid
me                    787                    ALL local
Szabo Gabi            2             will pickup localy                                    1.78             (paid cash, btc done)
goldbasket           10               no data included in blockchain                8.9              (btc)
fragger                  2                                   GLS                               1.78             (btc)
Anonymous            1              Spain            GLS                                  0.89             (sepa transfer, btc done)
Nemet Gyula          2            will pickup localy                                     1.78             (paid cash, btc done)
gapthemind           30            Romania            GLS                              26.7             (sepa transfer)
josue                    4             Spain               GLS                                 3.56            (btc)
andrelam               3             Brazil               GLS                                 2.67            (btc)
qurashee               7              UK                   GLS                                6.23            (btc)
zmajns                  2             Serbia                local                              1.78           (btc)
cpjackso                5               UK                  GLS                                4.45            (btc)
iiaurent                13             France              GLS                                 11.57             (btc)
griff                      32             UK                   GLS                                28.48            (btc)
green65                 54            UK                    GLS                                48.06             (btc)
HellDiverUK             2             UK                    GLS                                 1.78            (btc)
Nighthawkxx           3             Belgium               GLS                                2.67            (btc)
Twoja Stara           1               Poland              GLS                                0.89            (btc)    
kuusj98                 1              Holland             GLS                                0.89            (btc)
xgtele                   16            Russia               GLS                               14.24           (btc)    
Speciall                 5             Belgium              GLS                                4.45           (btc)    
Wedgy2k               2             UK                     GLS                                1.78           (btc)    
Ersch                    1              Belgium             GLS                                0.89            (btc)
maxi75                  20            Croatia              GLS                                17.8            (btc)
zoobidoo                5             France               GLS                                 4.45           (btc)
DannysCam            8              USA                  GLS                                 7.12           (btc)
Green Samurai        9              Poland               GLS                                 8.01           (btc)
Gianluca                3              Italy                 GLS                                  2.67           (btc)
pajak666               2              Poland               GLS                                 1.78           (btc)
monsters4r            1              Switzerland         GLS                                 0.89           (btc)
FuseR                   3              Ukraine              GLS                                  2.67          (btc)
brijoco                  5              UK                     GLS                                 4.45          (btc)
hoping1234            2             Australia             GLS                                  1.78         (btc)
nowywbitcoi*         10             Poland               GLS                                  8.9         (btc)
s.t.e.i.w.o              5             Russia                GLS                                  4.45         (btc)
afonso                  3             Luxembourgh       GLS                                  2.67          (btc)
Anonymous            6             EU                     GLS                                  5.34          (btc)
nomnomnom           4            Germany              GLS                                  3.56          (btc)
manes                   3             Spain                 GLS                                  2.67          (btc)
tidus_13                1             Portugal              GLS                                  0.89          (btc)
bobko                   24            Slovakia             GLS                                  21.36        (btc)
foroplus                 4             Spain                 GLS                                  3.56          (btc)
Xer0                     20           Germany              GLS                                  17.8          (btc)
Moogle                  11            UK                     GLS                                  9.79         (btc)
albon                     3            UK                      GLS                                  2.67         (btc)
LukeFPS                20             UK                    GLS                                  17.8         (btc)

TOTAL: 1150

Those who are over 1150 dont worry, I will give some of mine - my initial idea was to buy 600 anyway

*Anonymous - user wishes to stay anonymous for some reason

 I will write some details next to every name, its easier for me than keeping it in one more place.
 If you want to discuss some details on bigger orders, send me you skype or msn contact to pm, and I will add you.

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[minerpumpkin]

When can we expect the Erupters to arrive? Have you already placed an order with yxt? Is so, when?

[vdragon]

No, I have not placed an order, as stated in my first post. yxt assured me that he has enough on stock (more than 1000 currently), and more arriving. Order will be placed when the number is reached. When we place an order we should expect the miners in a few days.

[ezisdog]

Let me see if i understood your math:

300*0,330GHs = 99 GHz.

300*51,00 EUR = 15.300,00 EUR

1GHs = 154,55 EUR

You will pay 15.300,00 EUR for 99 GHs ?

That's a lot of money!

[LimKopi]

Better off buying a bigger ASIC miner now and getting more bang for your buck. For the same 1BTC you can get 4x the hash rate with a group buy.

[vdragon]

There is a bunch of threads about what is better, and this is not the one about that. So lets get back on the track.

[vdragon]

I am not accepting litecoins... You can go to btce and convert it to bitcoin, dont be lazy

[vdragon]

Once again, please include all the data in payment so that I dont have to chase down everyone for details... Its like I am talking to myself no one reads the text

[vdragon]

Good news for everyone who is willing to participate. I sold all of my gpus yesterday, as you know theres was a lot , and I will be going for 600-800 erupters, so more chance for group buy to have success

[fragger]

Put me down for 2 please. BTC payment and signed message with details on their way to you.

[vdragon]

Put me down for 2 please. BTC payment and signed message with details on their way to you.

 Already got this, 2 confirmations are down

[vdragon]

Got a guy today to buy 70 pieces, this will boost us for sure, waiting for the sepa

[vdragon]

Cmon people look alive, lets get this thing going, replace your "outdated" gpus, with this price its a win win situation. Get rid of the heat and high power bills. For a comparison:

AMD 7850 - 330 MHs, 110w, costs 100 eur from ebay (used), uses ~ 960kW per year
USB Erupter - 330 MHs, 2.5W, costs 50 eur (brand new), uses ~ 22kW per year

 At the average cost of 10 cents/kW it is a difference of 94 euro (120 USD) per year only in electricity, so however you are calculating it, the erupter wins

[vdragon]

gapthemind - if you are watching this, send me your address and stuff...

[vdragon]

We have one more announced buy of 20

[iiaurent]

So we send btc to your adresse then send a signed message and you ll contact us in future to send shipping fees
am i all right ?
regards,
laurent

[vdragon]

So we send btc to your adresse then send a signed message and you ll contact us in future to send shipping fees
am i all right ?
regards,
laurent

  Yes, that is correct, I choose to do that because I cant predict how much will btc be on th day of shipping, and sadly the post office dont take btc (still )

[vdragon]

We are heading forward now

[qurashee]

Count me in for 5 pieces. Will send BTC and signed message the moment I post this.

[vdragon]

Count me in for 5 pieces. Will send BTC and signed message the moment I post this.

 Received

[vdragon]

And a 100 to go its a milestone

[DannysCam]

i want in this so bad hurry up bank transfer!!!!

[vdragon]

i want in this so bad hurry up bank transfer!!!!

 Dont worry - my experience with organizing a lot of people, it doesnt go that fast and at least 2 persons will back up in the process, statistics is a bitch

[iiaurent]

ok for 10 i am sending message to you and of course the btc's

[vdragon]

ok for 10 i am sending message to you and of course the btc's

 Received

[vdragon]

Bitcoin gone up :/, not good for those not having bitcoins, but still a bargain and cheap

 Scratch that, its going back down, was just a small bubble

[oscurito23]

Hello,

Since the order, how long will it until you send the usb?

thanks

[Stinky_Pete]

I am interested in 5 USBs. Do you have a reputation or trust thread?

[vdragon]

All questions answered, pm sent. Bring it on

[vdragon]

Someone asked me over chat for shipping to Pakistan. For some reason, the post office doesnt want to send to that part of the world, so no can do

[vdragon]

And we have one more 84 to go

[maxi75]

reserve 20 for me!
sending payment soon

[green65]

I will take 10. Payment will be sent ASAP.

[kuusj98]

Cmon people look alive, lets get this thing going, replace your "outdated" gpus, with this price its a win win situation. Get rid of the heat and high power bills. For a comparison:

AMD 7850 - 330 MHs, 110w, costs 100 eur from ebay (used), uses ~ 960kW per year
USB Erupter - 330 MHs, 2.5W, costs 50 eur (brand new), uses ~ 22kW per year

 At the average cost of 10 cents/kW it is a difference of 94 euro (120 USD) per year only in electricity, so however you are calculating it, the erupter wins

I'm interested in this, I MAY buy one to try. Btw, I have 2 HD7850's and they are both pullin 390mh/s, but thats okay, I has 2 golden clockers.

[vdragon]

64 to go , with all these interest, we might be over earlier

[vdragon]

54 to go, getting there

[kuusj98]

Hello Sir,
Could I ask you to reserve 1 unit for me? Tomorrow I can reach my wallets as I am on holiday now.
I would highly apreciate it
Also, how much will the 3th shipping option be in BTC? (The ensured)

Do you also test these units or isn't that nessesairy?

[vdragon]

 PM sent, answered.

Hello Sir,
Could I ask you to reserve 1 unit for me? Tomorrow I can reach my wallets as I am on holiday now.
I would highly apreciate it
Also, how much will the 3th shipping option be in BTC? (The ensured)

Do you also test these units or isn't that nessesairy?

[vdragon]

Cant ship to Africa, not taking any chances ....

[green65]

Can I reserve another 10? I may not be able to pay the full amount until later today/tomorow, is that ok?

[albon]

I really want to join this GB for 3 but I am waiting on some cash at the moment.

IF I get it before the GB closes I will get back to you to order at least 3

[Moogle]

Awesome! I'll take 11 to the uk :-) I ain't at home right now though so will send once I get in.
Last I heard though yxk didn't have any in stock? Just wondering how long you expect it to take to get these?

[vdragon]

All answered, pm sent

[speciall]

Hi, nice that we're getting so close,
count me in for 5 Pieces, will transfer coins tomorrow

[HellDiverUK]

I'll take 2, please and thankyou.  

Payment in a little while, have to convert from LTC to BTC via BTC-E (which isn't quick).

[vdragon]

I am little busy at my work at this point, will be back in 3-4 hours to answer everyone

[vdragon]

Everyone answered, pm sent, I will be back in 3-4 hours again, hell of a day...

[fragger]

Could you put me down for GLS postage please

[xgtele]

I will take 12 of them, BTC payment will be send on Monday. Thanks!

[vdragon]

All done and answered

[Nighthawkxx]

I take 3 USB Erupters. Payment sent.

[vdragon]

I take 3 USB Erupters. Payment sent.

 Payment received

[vdragon]

Posting to Russia not a problem, only certain far countries are.

[vdragon]

Guys I will answer everyones messages in the evening, I am only a human, I would like to spend a day with my family

[HellDiverUK]

Guys I will answer everyones messages in the evening, I am only a human, I would like to spend a day with my family

Always keep family first, the voices on the internet can wait.

[Barntech]

Will you ship to Australia?
How much would the shipping be?

Cheers

Barntech

[Moogle]

Is this group buy ending on Wednesday then?
I wanna pay as late as possible really :-P o got my money sitting in my coin lenders account getting interest at moment :-P

[vdragon]

  Yes, wednesday it should be if all goes well as it did so far

Is this group buy ending on Wednesday then?
I wanna pay as late as possible really :-P o got my money sitting in my coin lenders account getting interest at moment :-P

[vdragon]

All should be answered and updated, if I missed someone, send me a pm, now the email questions

[kuusj98]

All should be answered and updated, if I missed someone, send me a pm, now the email questions

Wow, you got a lot to organise!
I hope the shipment will also go well for us all.
I apreciate all your efford that needs to be put into this GB.

[vdragon]

All should be answered and updated, if I missed someone, send me a pm, now the email questions

Wow, you got a lot to organise!
I hope the shipment will also go well for us all.
I apreciate all your efford that needs to be put into this GB.

 It is the biggest save for me, because at 800 pcs 0.1btc is 80 btc save, but it turned out to be more work than I thought

[xgtele]

I paid for 12 Erupters

[vdragon]

I paid for 12 Erupters

 Received

[zoobidoo]

hi there
i would like to be a part of this gb
count me for two erupter plz
i'm refreshing my btc wallet and then i can make the payment
greetings guys !

[vdragon]

hi there
i would like to be a part of this gb
count me for two erupter plz
i'm refreshing my btc wallet and then i can make the payment
greetings guys !

 Dont worry, I will keep this group buy running till wednesday evening - yxt wont mind if we order 1040 instead of 1000

[gapthemind]

I have to apologise to every one in this group buy i asked vdragon to leave order for only 30 erupter for me and return me part of money. We just find out that my gf is pregnant 2 months now and need the money for lot of things now. I see that the group buy is doing good and i am sure this will not be a set back.

[vdragon]

I have to apologise to every one in this group buy i asked vdragon to leave order for only 30 erupter for me and return me part of money. We just find out that my gf is pregnant 2 months now and need the money for lot of things now. I see that the group buy is doing good and i am sure this will not be a set back.

 I found this to be a legitimate reason, and I will be sending you BTC shortly. There is huge interest in the group buy, and we will fill the order anyhow in next few days, most likely by Wednesday anyhow. Congratulations to your girlfriend and to you on the baby, and have fun - it will bring you a lot of joy  

[Twoja Stara]

Seems it's the cheapest one on this forum (right now), am I right?

[vdragon]

Seems it's the cheapest one on this forum (right now), am I right?

 Yes it is, because no one was crazy enough to make it for 1000 pieces

[gapthemind]

I have to apologise to every one in this group buy i asked vdragon to leave order for only 30 erupter for me and return me part of money. We just find out that my gf is pregnant 2 months now and need the money for lot of things now. I see that the group buy is doing good and i am sure this will not be a set back.

 I found this to be a legitimate reason, and I will be sending you BTC shortly. There is huge interest in the group buy, and we will fill the order anyhow in next few days, most likely by Wednesday anyhow. Congratulations to your girlfriend and to you on the baby, and have fun - it will bring you a lot of joy  

Thank you. Arived.

[kuusj98]

Bought one

[kuusj98]

I have to apologise to every one in this group buy i asked vdragon to leave order for only 30 erupter for me and return me part of money. We just find out that my gf is pregnant 2 months now and need the money for lot of things now. I see that the group buy is doing good and i am sure this will not be a set back.

Wow, congrats!
Let us now when she/he is born

[wedgy2k]

2 paid for
Thank you

[vdragon]

2 paid for
Thank you

 Received

[vdragon]

If I didnt answer you please feel free to write me once more, I got too much messages

[vdragon]

Australia is possible for shipping, but it is too far and too expensive, please look for other solution

[vdragon]

Everyone answered, will be back in few hours

[maxi75]

Paid for 20 Erupters

[kuusj98]

It's going good
 

[vdragon]

All updated

[zoobidoo]

hello
the payment for the two erupters has just been sent
'm going to pm your with the signature !

[kuusj98]

I am actually wondering how you are going to get 300 USB ports
It seems strange to have 30 Hubs, you;ll still need to have at least 2 PC's for all dem USB's

Just wondering, I saw your awesome GPU rigs, I grant you they'll look as awesome, less the heat +noise.

[vdragon]

I am actually wondering how you are going to get 300 USB ports
It seems strange to have 30 Hubs, you;ll still need to have at least 2 PC's for all dem USB's

Just wondering, I saw your awesome GPU rigs, I grant you they'll look as awesome, less the heat +noise.

 Actually, I have 10 computers ready, its 800 pieces. Still figuring out things... Too busy with this order

[DannysCam]

sent payment thanks for all your hard work i sent the signature hope i did it right lol

[Xer0]

do you have any confirmation of yxt that you will get your 1000 units soon enough?

[vdragon]

Everyone answered, good night, for today it is enough

[Moogle]

do you have any confirmation of yxt that you will get your 1000 units soon enough?

I too would like to know this. He's causing up quite a bit of stir inhis thread

[yxt]

this GB is already considered in my calculation.   

Sorry for the lack of communication,
but important updates are always in my op.

[vdragon]

this GB is already considered in my calculation.   

Sorry for the lack of communication,
but important updates are always in my op.

 No problem, you do your thing we will do ours

[vdragon]

Going to work, have something important to do next 4-5 hours dont be alarmed if I dont answer you fast

[vdragon]

Back, updated and pms answered

[DannysCam]

this is the best group buy!! im hoping to get more bitcoins and buy more. considering i was paying about double what this group buy is im pretty happy, i have seen people sell theses for 2 bitcoins or some times 3 this is a good deal

[vdragon]

Updated and group but will be open till friday morning 9am CET, since some people started their sepa transfers few days ago to gox, but still didnt get the money to buy btc. But at friday morning I am closing it, we will most likely be at 1050 till then

[minerpumpkin]

Updated and group but will be open till friday morning 9am CET, since some people started their sepa transfers few days ago to gox, but still didnt get the money to buy btc. But at friday morning I am closing it, we will most likely be at 1050 till then

Did you manage to get a specific place in line at yxt? Or will this only be decided when you place the order on friday?
Anyways, a very fair groupbuy!

[HellDiverUK]

Yeah, awesome deal here - saw these same miners on eBay UK for £225 EACH.  This group buy is working out less than £100 delivered.

[qurashee]

Updated and group but will be open till friday morning 9am CET, since some people started their sepa transfers few days ago to gox, but still didnt get the money to buy btc. But at friday morning I am closing it, we will most likely be at 1050 till then

SEPA transfers at the moment need more than a month to get processed by mtgox BTW. I received a payment last week for an order I had placed on the first days of June.

[qurashee]

Hmm just realized you were talking about the reverse order Euros -> btc, while I was talking about btc->Euros. My bad

[DannysCam]

transfers are killing me i have enough money i could have bought 20 miners but all my money is stuck being transferred i started one transfer last friday they said it would take a week..... they took the money out of my account today but im still waiting for the BTC to be approved.. the moral of the story is next time i will just buy the coins off craigslist and meet in a public place...

[monsters4r]

Payed 1

thanks

[vdragon]

Updated and answered

[vdragon]

transfers are killing me i have enough money i could have bought 20 miners but all my money is stuck being transferred i started one transfer last friday they said it would take a week..... they took the money out of my account today but im still waiting for the BTC to be approved.. the moral of the story is next time i will just buy the coins off craigslist and meet in a public place...

 Seems you are not the only one, there is like 5 people also waiting on same stuff

[vdragon]

Those who are from europe and want to buy btc fast, go for bitstamp, they are lightning fast

[vdragon]

Everyone answered, good night

[vdragon]

Once more, Russia is no problem for shipping, part of it is still next to Europe last time I checked 

[brijoco]

Hi,

5 units paid.

[vdragon]

Hi,

5 units paid.

 Received, please send shipping address

[Chefnet]

1000 full? Orderd?

[HellDiverUK]

1000 full? Orderd?

Read the thread?  No? 

For the hard of thinking - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=252180.msg2741534#msg2741534

Hit the 1000, but he's running it on until Friday morning.

[Chefnet]

thx. not seen.

[HellDiverUK]

In other news, these things are being sold on eBay UK for £390 for a pair.     Yes, people are paying £195 EACH for these things.  This group buy is a bargain.

[vdragon]

Runing it till Friday morning, since some people contacted me (now) 6 days ago, initiated transfers to gox, and money was taken from their account only yesterday. So since we are quite early anyway, we will wait for them till Friday morning

[afonso]

Those who are from europe and want to buy btc fast, go for bitstamp, they are lightning fast

I'm still waiting for yesterday sepa transfer

[Xer0]

Those who are from europe and want to buy btc fast, go for bitstamp, they are lightning fast

I'm still waiting for yesterday sepa transfer

my experience with Bitstamp:
send money before noon and it will be there next evening
otherwise, overnext morning

[vdragon]

Those who are from europe and want to buy btc fast, go for bitstamp, they are lightning fast

I'm still waiting for yesterday sepa transfer

 Dont worry, it kinda depends when your bank sent it, if not today, it will be there tommorow so you wont be late, thats why I said friday morning

[vdragon]

For people who are asking about postponing the closing after Friday - I simply cant - I have an obligation to the people who already paid, I mean its not like you are asking me to make it Friday afternoon, but next week - people are eager to get their erupters and sincerely, I am too. So please, if you want in, you have to make it by Friday, if needed we can wait on you few hours since nothing will be done same second, but Friday is the last day.

 Use Bitstamp if you want btc bought fast, if you do a SEPA to them today, or tommorrow before noon, you will get here on time.

[green65]

For people who are asking about postponing the closing after Friday - I simply cant - I have an obligation to the people who already paid, I mean its not like you are asking me to make it Friday afternoon, but next week - people are eager to get their erupters and sincerely, I am too. So please, if you want in, you have to make it by Friday, if needed we can wait on you few hours since nothing will be done same second, but Friday is the last day.

 Use Bitstamp if you want btc bought fast, if you do a SEPA to them today, or tommorrow before noon, you will get here on time.

What about taking a 25-50% deposit? With the understanding that you won't ship anything until you get the full amount.

[vdragon]

For people who are asking about postponing the closing after Friday - I simply cant - I have an obligation to the people who already paid, I mean its not like you are asking me to make it Friday afternoon, but next week - people are eager to get their erupters and sincerely, I am too. So please, if you want in, you have to make it by Friday, if needed we can wait on you few hours since nothing will be done same second, but Friday is the last day.

 Use Bitstamp if you want btc bought fast, if you do a SEPA to them today, or tommorrow before noon, you will get here on time.

What about taking a 25-50% deposit? With the understanding that you won't ship anything until you get the full amount.

 Not really interested in that, this group buy prooved to be much more work than I expected. So many questions ... And if you dont answer them fast its always panic

[iiaurent]

I think we sould all thanks vdragon for doing this, so much things to do organising a GB.

[nowywbitcoinowymswiecie]

Hi, Ive made payment for 5 USB eruptors. Send PM.

[Moogle]

ah cool. running till friday now :-) i shall pay for my 11 then please :-) (just for the interest in my coinlenders account )

[hoping1234]

 
hoping1234,   2,              australia,        gls,                          1.78,

 

thanks hoping1234

[vdragon]

All answered, will be back in few hours

[kuusj98]

-snip-
Nvm

[vdragon]

Everyone answered, here I am

[s.t.e.i.w.o]

Sent payment for 5 units.

[vdragon]

Sent payment for 5 units.

 Received and updated

[kuusj98]

Wow, 1012 already! Going strong it seems.
BTW, as we are over 1000 now, can the guy still deliver all at once?
As he counted for 1000 pieces, I was wondering

[vdragon]

Wow, 1012 already! Going strong it seems.
BTW, as we are over 1000 now, can the guy still deliver all at once?
As he counted for 1000 pieces, I was wondering

1000 or 1050, doesnt matter

[Moogle]

Kinda does :-P there's a backlog of them according to his thread. People been trying to buy them for quite some time now and got nowhere

[yxt]

Backlog dissolves very quickly 

[vdragon]

We are over a little early, but better early then never . I just hope that the people who are waiting on gox for days also get here on time

[vdragon]

Here I am again, all pms answered

[vdragon]

Everyone answered. And for those who asked, I wont organize another group buy, I dont think I can make it to 1000 once again

[HellDiverUK]

Thanks for doing it in the first place.  Keenly waiting on postage prices. 

[vdragon]

Thanks for doing it in the first place.  Keenly waiting on postage prices. 

 Wait till I close it and order first . Waiting on 3 more people who have been goxed... Will send them out messages tonight to see if we are going with them or without them

[vdragon]

For those who are lazy to read the whole story - to make it simple THIS TRAIN (GROUP BUY) SHOULD BE LEAVING TOMMORROW. If you want in, its the last minute offer. People who are waiting on gox, please update me with your status.

[Twoja Stara]

Vdragon, the BTC's price dropped a little, but it's still hard 0.89 per one? If yes, I'd like to get some more to my current purchase.

[bbxx]

pm sent

[vdragon]

Vdragon, the BTC's price dropped a little, but it's still hard 0.89 per one? If yes, I'd like to get some more to my current purchase.

  Ofcourse, we are dealing in btc here

Everything updated and everyone answered

[vdragon]

Chefnet refunded for 2

[Moogle]

Backlog dissolves very quickly 

I hope so reckon we'll be seeing these 1000 shipped fairly shortly then?

[xgtele]

I paid for additional 3 Erupters

[vdragon]

Backlog dissolves very quickly  

I hope so reckon we'll be seeing these 1000 shipped fairly shortly then?

 Shipping is on Tuesday, or more likely, if yxt agrees, I will go and pick up personaly. I used to work at DHL, and I know how they handled big packages...

[vdragon]

I paid for additional 3 Erupters

  Updated

[tidus_13]

Any estimates how long will take to your place?

[vdragon]

Any estimates how long will take to your place?

 If I pick it up personally, same day

[nomnomnom]

Send you a payment and pm!

[tidus_13]

Pm sent.

[vdragon]

Everyone answered, good night. I might not be here early morning due to some family issues, so dont go berserk

[vdragon]

Going to do some personal things, and I will be back to close the group buy after that. LAST CALL. After that, since I reserved some aditional quantities (extra 100 pieces), the group buy is open ONLY FOR THOSE WHO ARE ALREADY IN AND WHO HAVE CONTACTED ME UP TO THIS POINT. About 70 of that quantity is kind of reserved for the three people I contacted already and that are waiting on gox and coinlenders. I want to have a quiet weekend with my family, so no more new orders, the 1150 number is final. We are paying on Monday, and I will most likely be driving to yxt on Tuesday to pickup everything, so that people can have their erupters delivered to them by Friday. Thank you everybody for making this happen.

[qurashee]

Going to do some personal things, and I will be back to close the group buy after that. LAST CALL. After that, since I reserved some aditional quantities (extra 100 pieces), the group buy is open ONLY FOR THOSE WHO ARE ALREADY IN AND WHO HAVE CONTACTED ME UP TO THIS POINT. About 70 of that quantity is kind of reserved for the three people I contacted already and that are waiting on gox and coinlenders. I want to have a quiet weekend with my family, so no more new orders, the 1150 number is final. We are paying on Monday, and I will most likely be driving to yxt on Tuesday to pickup everything, so that people can have their erupters delivered to them by Friday. Thank you everybody for making this happen.

Wow isn't that a day trip driving back and forth? Thanks for everything so far vdragon.

[HellDiverUK]

Folks may want to order some little heatsinks or fans for their Erupers.   I got one yesterday, and without a fan the whole thing heats up way above 70C.  It was still hashing fine, but it was starting to make a funny smell, took a good few minutes before it cooled enough to be able to unplug it with help of a towel.    Running them as-is without some sort of airflow or extra heatsinking isn't possible in my eyes.

I'm now running mine with a low-speed 80mm fan blowing at it, which keeps it cool enough.

Also I had serious issues with 50% missing shares when running the Erupter straight off the USB3 port on my rig using WinUSB drivers and cgminer.  I removed the WinUSB drivers and moved the Erupter to a USB2 port, and with bfgminer it's running perfectly.

USB3 is an AsMedia USB3 chip (it's an Asus SABERTOOTH 990FX).

ck is aware of the issue with cgminer.

[teddylogic]

Sorry, is it too late to order one?

[foroplus]

Me too woluld like to buy some if isn't too late. I'll reach home in 3 hours and can transfer BTCs. At the same time sign the transfer and send U a private MSG.

Isn't that late???

[tidus_13]

you gonna drive hungary to germany? >1000KM? how long will take? 8 hours? 8+8= 16 hours and you will be tired when u back to hungary....

[vdragon]

you gonna drive hungary to germany? >1000KM? how long will take? 8 hours? 8+8= 16 hours and you will be tired when u back to hungary....

 Its not unusual for me to drive that distance, its motorway all the way

[vdragon]

Sorry guys that I am so slow today on answering, we are having some irs checkup in my company so we are all alert. Will be back later

[foroplus]

I've bought 4 Units. Transfer made and private message with Ur directions.

[xgtele]

This group buy offer is the best bang for your btc 

[kuusj98]

Folks may want to order some little heatsinks or fans for their Erupers.   I got one yesterday, and without a fan the whole thing heats up way above 70C.  It was still hashing fine, but it was starting to make a funny smell, took a good few minutes before it cooled enough to be able to unplug it with help of a towel.    Running them as-is without some sort of airflow or extra heatsinking isn't possible in my eyes.

I'm now running mine with a low-speed 80mm fan blowing at it, which keeps it cool enough.

Also I had serious issues with 50% missing shares when running the Erupter straight off the USB3 port on my rig using WinUSB drivers and cgminer.  I removed the WinUSB drivers and moved the Erupter to a USB2 port, and with bfgminer it's running perfectly.

USB3 is an AsMedia USB3 chip (it's an Asus SABERTOOTH 990FX).

ck is aware of the issue with cgminer.

I have a big ass Phenom ii x4 965 heatsink
I think I am going to put it on the backplate of the thing (where the BTC logo is), may not keep that fan running, i'd have to have my PC up 24/7, or can I just put wires in 2 of of the 4 and connect like 4 AA-battery's to the fan?

[vdragon]

AT THIS POINT THE GROUP BUY IS OFFICIALLY CLOSED. Payments will only be accepted from people who are already on the list and from the few people that are waiting on gox etc... There might be some pieces left - it will be announced in the evening, BUT FOR PEOPLE WHO DIDNT CONTACT ME BEFORE OR TALKED TO ME, PLEASE DONT TRANSFER BTC BEFORE YOU TALK TO ME

[kuusj98]

Yay!!! 

[Moogle]

Money is now sent etc :-) 9.89 btc for 11 erupters
Cheers!

[vdragon]

Money is now sent etc :-) 9.89 btc for 11 erupters
Cheers!

 Got it

[HellDiverUK]

I have a big ass Phenom ii x4 965 heatsink
I think I am going to put it on the backplate of the thing (where the BTC logo is), may not keep that fan running, i'd have to have my PC up 24/7, or can I just put wires in 2 of of the 4 and connect like 4 AA-battery's to the fan?

Bit excessive TBH.  I was thinking more the little stick-on heatsinks you can buy for RAM chips.  They're usually 8 for $1 from Hong Kong off Fleabay.

As I said, I just have an 80mm 800rpm fan wired up to a 12v PSU (the PSU was from a dead Netgear hub), which just sits beside the USB hub.  That's more than enough to cool the miners.

[zoobidoo]

hey
is it possible to add an extra one to the two i have already ordered ?
i've just got a btc waiting for it...
if you give me a green light i transfer you 0.89btc tonight
waiting for your answer..
cheers and thanx for the great job you're doing
zoob'

[vdragon]

Everyone answered and first post updated, so that you know how much is left

[zoobidoo]

payment for an additional unit done just right now !
do i have to resign this transaction or the first one signed is ok ?
cheers guys

[kuusj98]

I have a big ass Phenom ii x4 965 heatsink
I think I am going to put it on the backplate of the thing (where the BTC logo is), may not keep that fan running, i'd have to have my PC up 24/7, or can I just put wires in 2 of of the 4 and connect like 4 AA-battery's to the fan?

Bit excessive TBH.  I was thinking more the little stick-on heatsinks you can buy for RAM chips.  They're usually 8 for $1 from Hong Kong off Fleabay.

As I said, I just have an 80mm 800rpm fan wired up to a 12v PSU (the PSU was from a dead Netgear hub), which just sits beside the USB hub.  That's more than enough to cool the miners.

Hmm, I'll have to see when I get it I guess. I may just remove a Northbridge heatsink of a old PC and put on an also old 80 mill fan and try to find a way to power it trough a battery or something.

[vdragon]

Answered and updated

[kuusj98]

I have a big ass Phenom ii x4 965 heatsink
I think I am going to put it on the backplate of the thing (where the BTC logo is), may not keep that fan running, i'd have to have my PC up 24/7, or can I just put wires in 2 of of the 4 and connect like 4 AA-battery's to the fan?

Bit excessive TBH.  I was thinking more the little stick-on heatsinks you can buy for RAM chips.  They're usually 8 for $1 from Hong Kong off Fleabay.

As I said, I just have an 80mm 800rpm fan wired up to a 12v PSU (the PSU was from a dead Netgear hub), which just sits beside the USB hub.  That's more than enough to cool the miners.

Hmm, I'll have to see when I get it I guess. I may just remove a Northbridge heatsink of a old PC and put on an also old 80 mill fan and try to find a way to power it trough a battery or something.

So, I tried something, and won I wanted to power a 4 pin cpu fan with USB, I just cut the usb cable, and stipped the red and black cable, then put those in the equally coloured fan cables and a 120 mill pushes quite some air trough the heatsink.
I call win! I hope it'll cool it down a shitton and endure the lifetime...

It may sound way to OP, but why not? Idk what people think of it, if it keeps it cool, i'm cool too.

[vdragon]

Everyone answered, good night. Saturday and Sunday I will be a little slower on answering, so just be patient, there are some erupters left, so if you need any, send a message

[DannysCam]

just sent payment of 5.40 enough for 6 more units ad to my other 2 paid for 8 in total hope i got it in time. thanks for all your hard work

[zoobidoo]

hi there
i'm sending you another 0.89 asap
my final order is for 4 units !
have a nice day everybody

[nowywbitcoinowymswiecie]

VDragon - please read PM

[vdragon]

Everything updated and answered, see you in the afternoon

[nowywbitcoinowymswiecie]

Ive just send 4.45BT for additional 5 USB miners. PM sent
Regards,

[zoobidoo]

payment for the 4th unit just sent !
cya

[vdragon]

Updated

[xgtele]

+1 @0.89 for me 

[vdragon]

Updated

[vdragon]

Answered and updated

[vdragon]

26 to go, altough some might be reserved

[bbxx]

please add 5 pcs to my order

[vdragon]

Updated

[vdragon]

Updated 20 left

[LukePFS]

Updated 20 left

Will take this 20. Will send the coins when you confirm they all are avalaible to me.
Luke

[albon]

pm sent

[albon]

2.67 btc sent and pm with signed transaction info sent

[vdragon]

ALL OUT! Last 20 pcs reserved for LukeFPS, waiting on payment.

Theres 0 LEFT for new buyers, I am only waiting on Xer0, LukeFPS and one Anonymous for payment.

[xgtele]

Success! Sold out 

[LukePFS]

Payment Done

2620ed27931d167d86872e7878d07601a478a0879e3f94222f52d67774f95b49

Regards,
Luke

[kuusj98]

Yay!
We did it!

When can we expect shipping costs?

[vdragon]

Yay!
We did it!

When can we expect shipping costs?

 Most likely Tuesday evening. We are still waiting on 2 payments, but if they dont go through till sometime tommorrow, we have to leave without them 

[kuusj98]

Yay!
We did it!

When can we expect shipping costs?

 Most likely Tuesday evening. We are still waiting on 2 payments, but if they dont go through till sometime tommorrow, we have to leave without them 

Okay.

[albon]

Have you already ordered them?

[vdragon]

Have you already ordered them?

 The amount is reserved for us, we are paying tommorrow and I am going for them on Tuesday, if all goes well. We are waiting on payment from 2 people till tommorow.

[Moogle]

Will you be posting these out on the Tuesday then once people start paying the shipping costs?

[vdragon]

Will you be posting these out on the Tuesday then once people start paying the shipping costs?

 Posting cant happen on Tuesday, its simply impossible, since I have to drive 2000km that day. I will send out the shipping costs over night and start sending on Wednesday

[nowywbitcoinowymswiecie]

Good luck an be carefull!

[vdragon]

Good luck an be carefull!

 Thanks

[vdragon]

Only one user left to pay

[DannysCam]

check your tires pressure befor you leave for the long drive i don't want you to break down on the way lol!

[vdragon]

It wont break down, its an Audi a4 station wagon . The only thing I am waiting for now is for my stupid wallet to sync, I forgot that it takes ages ...

[DannysCam]

It wont break down, its an Audi a6 station wagon . The only thing I am waiting for now is for my stupid wallet to sync, I forgot that it takes ages ...

nice car do you watch top gear?

[yxt]

haha

now i know why you want to pick up personally..
german Autobahn... have fun  

[vdragon]

It wont break down, its an Audi a6 station wagon . The only thing I am waiting for now is for my stupid wallet to sync, I forgot that it takes ages ...

nice car do you watch top gear?

 Made a mistake, its an a4, as you all know from before, I am mercedes coupe fan, so cant really tell audis apart they look all the same to me. Its not something fast, its a diesel

[kuusj98]

haha

now i know why you want to pick up personally..
german Autobahn... have fun  

Hehe, we life 5 minutes of the border from Germany, and my dad works at a car dealer.
He sells Kia's and gets to test alot of new models before they even can be sold, last time we drove 280km/h with an Optima, long life German Autobahn!

[vdragon]

Guys I am very sorry, but due to my mistake, I moved my trip for tommorrow and contacted yxt accordingly. My wallet still didnt sync, has some weeks to go, so I decided to go tommorrow 6am from here, rather than starting the trip at 3-4pm, and driving all the way into night.

[HellDiverUK]

  Good old Bitcoin.  Super-fast when you're in no hurry, infinitely slow when you are...

[Moogle]

Balls :-(
Oh well. At least you keeping us updated

[green65]

Guys I am very sorry, but due to my mistake, I moved my trip for tommorrow and contacted yxt accordingly. My wallet still didnt sync, has some weeks to go, so I decided to go tommorrow 6am from here, rather than starting the trip at 3-4pm, and driving all the way into night.

just export the private key and use blockchain or mulitbit

[vdragon]

Guys I am very sorry, but due to my mistake, I moved my trip for tommorrow and contacted yxt accordingly. My wallet still didnt sync, has some weeks to go, so I decided to go tommorrow 6am from here, rather than starting the trip at 3-4pm, and driving all the way into night.

just export the private key and use blockchain or mulitbit

 Its almost done now any way...

[kuusj98]

I can probably not send shipment cost tomorrow, more like Thursday, if you don't mind..
Also, take the drive on easy, we don't want you dead

[xgtele]

I am waiting patiently for my Erupters.. No rush

[Xer0]

They wont ship over-the-border anyway when send out friday no panic!

[yxt]

I want to let you know:

vdragon has not paid and has not contacted me.
So we have not meet today.

[albon]

I want to let you know:

vdragon has not paid and has not contacted me.
So we have not met today.

so whats going on with this?

the last of btc for 3 and ...........

[qurashee]

I want to let you know:

vdragon has not paid and has not contacted me.
So we have not met today.

So do we have any other means to contact him other than this thread?

[Moogle]

ffs. knew this was too good to be true :|
can we get a moderator to give up his IP. can atleast be traced to a physical address and get the law involved. with the pirate dude getting 5 years for scamming with bitcoin it seems it can be done!

edit:

https://blockchain.info/address/1NoW8WSMkkCPb1xRAN3oLQXo5QmC8Lvw7w

they money aint in his account anymore....

[pajak666]

so what's the usual procedure in this situation?
short words: what are we going to do now?

[DannysCam]

i bet every thing is on the up and up give him couple of days i believe he has done group buys befor lest check his older group buys

[pajak666]

Actually after I placed my order, he send me such PM about my shipping addres:

Can you tell me which country is that please?

So I am quite optimistic, his initial intentions were to actually ship them

[nowywbitcoinowymswiecie]

Patience is what we need now. When I start realizing its 2000 km ride I ask myself - its possible to do this on one run and I know - its not. So maybe he split his initial idea on 1 day trip actually to 2 days one and get some rest in the hotel.

[speciall]

But before he start, he should at least payed and contacted yxt?
is in't possible idd to drive that distance in one day...

[nowywbitcoinowymswiecie]

But before he start, he should at least payed and contacted yxt?
is in't possible idd to drive that distance in one day...

He can take laptop with him or smartphone and make payment on the site. In fact, I would do that. Payment confirmation would be the shortest element of the whole trip.

[bobko]

Gyula Nemet paid in cash and some people SEPA transfers. They will know his initials.

[speciall]

But before he start, he should at least payed and contacted yxt?
is in't possible idd to drive that distance in one day...

He can take laptop with him or smartphone and make payment on the site. In fact, I would do that. Payment confirmation would be the shortest element of the whole trip.

thats correct, but if you want to drive 2k km for an appointment, wouldnt you at least contact the one u are visiting?

in fact the drive would be possible with 2 drivers, its 1000km one way (germany to Szeged), with one driver you can't

anyway, hope to hear from him soon and if all ok, there will be no further delays as the price per piece is dropping...

[nowywbitcoinowymswiecie]

thats correct, but if you want to drive 2k km for an appointment, wouldnt you at least contact the one u are visiting?

in fact the drive would be possible with 2 drivers, its 1000km one way, with one driver you can't

anyway, hope to hear from him soon and if all ok, there will be no further delays as the price per piece is dropping...

I am with You - I would contact seller before - thats for sure.

[iiaurent]

Don't panic

Anyway if he takes it i think yxt will send message or vdragon will send a quick message from yxt's house.

2000km i a long trip

Time will see

I for my part will let him in peace till saturday

[qurashee]

Don't panic

Anyway if he takes it i think yxt will send message or vdragon will send a quick message from yxt's house.

2000km i a long trip

Time will see

I for my part will let him in peace till saturday

Well nothing can been done anyway, but let's face it the odds are against us.

[bbxx]

our money is in mixer
can we make any steps to trace him?
his site, banking details etc.

300 BTC is a lot of money.

[Moogle]

But before he start, he should at least payed and contacted yxt?
is in't possible idd to drive that distance in one day...

exactly. these should have been paid for before he even set off. unless he was going to be paying for them in cash when he got there. The fact he hasnt even logged on to this forum since or contacted yxt to say anything isnt a great sign 

[DannysCam]

But before he start, he should at least payed and contacted yxt?
is in't possible idd to drive that distance in one day...

exactly. these should have been paid for before he even set off. unless he was going to be paying for them in cash when he got there. The fact he hasnt even logged on to this forum since or contacted yxt to say anything isnt a great sign 

im more worried that he may have been in a wreck i have been reading all his old post it does not seem like hes the kind of person to rip us off... we will find out but i think some thing happen on the drive or some thing

[qurashee]

But before he start, he should at least payed and contacted yxt?
is in't possible idd to drive that distance in one day...

exactly. these should have been paid for before he even set off. unless he was going to be paying for them in cash when he got there. The fact he hasnt even logged on to this forum since or contacted yxt to say anything isnt a great sign 

im more worried that he may have been in a wreck i have been reading all his old post it does not seem like hes the kind of person to rip us off... we will find out but i think some thing happen on the drive or some thing

In that case, we can always phone his shop and find out if he's OK. He did work in a pc hardware shop right?

[afonso]

This is the shop on his profile:
https://exicom.hu/php/index.php?option=com_wrapper&view=wrapper&Itemid=155&lang=en

Does anyone knows his full name, address, phone number, IBAN, skype, etc?

[geb]

By email he messaged me using vccdragon@hotmail.com, and name seems to be "Atila Nagy"...

[yxt]

Before you start hunting times... I would just wait 1-2 days.
I'm not sure what's going on. I just wanted to give you the info.

Meeting was not planned in the aforementioned city.
There only the company is registered. I'm not there, neither the miners

[bobko]

Atila Nagy is the most common name in Hungary .......
When somebody speaks Hungarian, so call the company if there exists Atila

[green65]

By email he messaged me using vccdragon@hotmail.com, and name seems to be "Atila Nagy"...

I can’t see your name on the list.

If you did get an email from him can you pm me the original email with all the headers. (If you tell me what email service you use I can help you get the raw email).

I have dug up a load of info on the exicom company but it’s in Hungarian and google translation is not great in places.

If anyone paid by SEPA can you send me his payment details? Also if you paid in cash did you get a name, address, phone number or description?

[Moogle]

Before you start hunting times... I would just wait 1-2 days.
I'm not sure what's going on. I just wanted to give you the info.

Meeting was not planned in the aforementioned city.
There only the company is registered. I'm not there, neither the miners

easy to say that its the lack of contact that has been made since that is whats getting me worried (and everyone else i'm guessing)

[tidus_13]

Before you start hunting times... I would just wait 1-2 days.
I'm not sure what's going on. I just wanted to give you the info.

Meeting was not planned in the aforementioned city.
There only the company is registered. I'm not there, neither the miners

Something is wrong, he didn't ask you the address and didn't mentioned when he goes to pick it up?

[pajak666]

Before you start hunting times... I would just wait 1-2 days.
I'm not sure what's going on. I just wanted to give you the info.

Meeting was not planned in the aforementioned city.
There only the company is registered. I'm not there, neither the miners

Something is wrong, he didn't ask you the address and didn't mentioned when he goes to pick it up?

Bitcoins are gone from his wallet, he is not logging anymore.
Officially it is time to start manhunt

[PrintMule]

I cannot help but laugh :/

I feel bad, but still

[nottm28]

This is pretty shitty if he has conned you guys - there's some big losses for some people according to the list on the OP - hope he comes through for you. Watching.

[afonso]

we all transfered funds to this address (>300BTC):

1NoW8WSMkkCPb1xRAN3oLQXo5QmC8Lvw7w

then he transfered all the funds to:

1CSPFR5CrkcxHmNG9yra3rL2BW6BHttJHL

~54 BTC are still there. the rest is spreading around many addresses.

sorry guys, but it does not look good. we should have asked to see that he had BTC enough to pay for his 800 erupters

please share all the information you have!

[iiaurent]

comfirmed it's a scam

looking at the way he passes the fonds to differents adresses on the blockchain

1Fxc8wdKatDELbWaGVrSsXHKKnWqngZdHy 256.46790229 BTC to

1FXfs1h6stTEgBdj9srLhSVGbWMx218kP4 216.58758599 BTC to

19XyZcB9sEixrdUgPm3rf3Qz7P2mD88JiV 127.75858599 BTC
1C4riArfFBU4SywyYbrSMHXWWRTYykKKQR 10 BTC
1Ar4ui6nkMqhx33Xtii3s5U8tRoMWVhpV4 10 BTC
13iHFii6mYHxgRGWmo73Jhr6x3xHWaXAWt 68.8285 BTC

he is washing the btc .

go to man hunt

[kuusj98]

I really hope he isn't shitting us, I'll be mad as fuck...

Edit: Wait a sec, he has a Electronic store, and his website is under his profile name, someone who was picking it up locally can go to the store and ask what the freak he is doing.

[qurashee]

I really hope he isn't shitting us, I'll be mad as fuck...

Edit: Wait a sec, he has a Electronic store, and his website is under his profile name, someone who was picking it up locally can go to the store and ask what the freak he is doing.

And what makes you think that it really is his shop? It can be just any random shop he chose to put there. It's our fault that we didn't ask any proof or credentials. I'm guessing even some of his "customers" in the list that have paid via SEPA do not exist. I hope I'm proven wrong but till then, well played vdragon...

[kuusj98]

we all transfered funds to this address (>300BTC):

1NoW8WSMkkCPb1xRAN3oLQXo5QmC8Lvw7w

then he transfered all the funds to:

1CSPFR5CrkcxHmNG9yra3rL2BW6BHttJHL

~54 BTC are still there. the rest is spreading around many addresses.

sorry guys, but it does not look good. we should have asked to see that he had BTC enough to pay for his 800 erupters

please share all the information you have!

Shop addres and phone number: https://exicom.hu/php/index.php?option=com_wrapper&view=wrapper&Itemid=155&lang=en

If he trew us over, and the shop is legit from him We need to somehow lawsuit him...

[kuusj98]

I really hope he isn't shitting us, I'll be mad as fuck...

Edit: Wait a sec, he has a Electronic store, and his website is under his profile name, someone who was picking it up locally can go to the store and ask what the freak he is doing.

And what makes you think that it really is his shop? It can be just any random shop he chose to put there. It's our fault that we didn't ask any proof or credentials. I'm guessing even some of his "customers" in the list that have paid via SEPA do not exist. I hope I'm proven wrong but till then, well played vdragon...

Well, he seemed legit, I really hope we are all proven wrong now..

[HellDiverUK]

Arse biscuits.    Wow, this sucks.  Glad I only "bought" two.  

Guess the price really was "too good to be true". 

[speciall]

maybe yxt can help us about the price,

@YXT, was it possible for him to resell @ 0.89?

[kuusj98]

Arse biscuits.    Wow, this sucks.  Glad I only "bought" two.  

Guess the price really was "too good to be true". 

Yup, I only ordered 1, seems not much, but is really was all my BTC.

Price is possible, if you buy so many that seems legit....

[albon]

well that was the last of my btc so am thinking now might be the time to get out of this.

I am just so F*~#ed off about this.
I just want to kill the guy

[iiaurent]

i ordered 13 so it's 11.57btc grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr 

[green65]

i ordered 13 so it's 11.57btc grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr 

I ordered 54 so i have lost 48.06 BTC

[bobko]

hello moderators,

we need vdragon ip-adresses and all nick from the same ip. then we know from witch country is hi. (i hope hi didnt use proxy). Then is it job for police.

[xgtele]

Shit happens. We lost out hard earned btc..

[eneloop]

100% scam, there is no reasonable reason to spread our coins like he did.

Szabo Gabi            2             will pickup localy                                    1.78             (paid cash, btc done)
Nemet Gyula          2            will pickup localy                                     1.78             (paid cash, btc done)

gapthemind           30            Romania            GLS                              26.7             (sepa transfer)
Anonymous            1              Spain            GLS                                  0.89             (sepa transfer, btc done)

we are looking for this 4 guys if they are real. bank information will help a lot.
further do we need his IP.

[kuusj98]

We DO want his IP, becouse this is a LOT of money, about 28500$...

I really don't get it if he really is shitting us, becouse he has a shitton of BTC ( he had a metric SHITTON of GPU's in le ol' days, like 300) and probably doesn't need any more...
We made a big fault, we did not ask for anything which could proof his identity.

BUT
Let's look at it from the other side, he is still on his way, has a ton of traffic and does the payment when he actually sees the wares.

[kuusj98]

Can I haz your attention please
We need a raw output of a mail he send to you, becouse I red that people did send him mails at vccdragon@hotmail.com and with a raw output we can see the IP and trace him back.

[HellDiverUK]

To be fair, 99% of folks are on dynamic IPs, so really all you'd get is what ISP he was on.  If even that. 

vdragon could have just had real life issues - sickness or death in the family.  Or he did just lose a Bridgestone at 180kph and is in a ditch somewhere...who knows.  Fingers crossed.

Back to waiting for my Jalapeno to be sent.  Only 3 more months....may be...

[xgtele]

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[kuusj98]

His e-mail to me dtd March 18, 2013:

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Wow, thanks!
I can see a addres located in the US, and one on a Private network...
Let me have a further look.

Edit: Seems as if the changed it up a bit, now you can only see the IP location from a Mircosoft ISP..

[xgtele]

kuusj98, that's all I have. Only 1 e-mail. All other communications - forum PMs.

[green65]

MS no longer put the ip in the emails so a forum mod will have to give us his ip
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windowslive/forum/mail-email/what-does-x-eip-mean-in-an-email-message-source/63fe7edd-1cbc-4276-9e9e-e3834ecd4219

[xgtele]

HellDiverUK, nothing bad happens with him on the road. He just was very busy spreading our btc between multiple addresses

[xgtele]

MS no longer put the ip in the emails so a forum mod will have to give us his ip
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windowslive/forum/mail-email/what-does-x-eip-mean-in-an-email-message-source/63fe7edd-1cbc-4276-9e9e-e3834ecd4219

That's funny:

X-EIP means X-Encoded Internet Protocol mostly used by internet criminals who don't want to be found by IP, it usually looks like this: X-EIP: [rRpZYj794WdIORd/MseKwfTLwCd6MAYr] instead of an IP number like this: 65.55.90.199

MS masked his real IP!

[kuusj98]

MS no longer put the ip in the emails so a forum mod will have to give us his ip
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windowslive/forum/mail-email/what-does-x-eip-mean-in-an-email-message-source/63fe7edd-1cbc-4276-9e9e-e3834ecd4219

That's funny:

X-EIP means X-Encoded Internet Protocol mostly used by internet criminals who don't want to be found by IP, it usually looks like this: X-EIP: [rRpZYj794WdIORd/MseKwfTLwCd6MAYr] instead of an IP number like this: 65.55.90.199

MS masked his real IP!

Holy shit!
We need ze hashing power to decrypt

Edit: We have a serious problem *cries*

[bobko]

100% scam, there is no reasonable reason to spread our coins like he did.

Szabo Gabi            2             will pickup localy                                    1.78             (paid cash, btc done)
Nemet Gyula          2            will pickup localy                                     1.78             (paid cash, btc done)

gapthemind           30            Romania            GLS                              26.7             (sepa transfer)
Anonymous            1              Spain            GLS                                  0.89             (sepa transfer, btc done)

we are looking for this 4 guys if they are real. bank information will help a lot.
further do we need his IP.

I am sure, this 4 guys doesnt exist ....

[hanti]

and as u can see they are first buyers on the list so...

[xgtele]

gapthemind, you paid by SEPA transfer and vdragon refunded you partially. Can you share vdragon's SEPA details with this group??

[nomnomnom]

100% scam, there is no reasonable reason to spread our coins like he did.

Szabo Gabi            2             will pickup localy                                    1.78             (paid cash, btc done)
Nemet Gyula          2            will pickup localy                                     1.78             (paid cash, btc done)

gapthemind           30            Romania            GLS                              26.7             (sepa transfer)
Anonymous            1              Spain            GLS                                  0.89             (sepa transfer, btc done)

we are looking for this 4 guys if they are real. bank information will help a lot.
further do we need his IP.

I am sure, this 4 guys doesnt exist ....

I found this Nemet guy with google..., anyone from hungary and/or has meetup account?
http://www.meetup.com/BitcoinBudapest/members/50888732/

We could ask if he knows him IRL etc.

[pajak666]

what we need is not his recent ip. we need ip he used prior to preparing this scam.

[bobko]

gapthemind, you paid by SEPA transfer and vdragon refunded you partially. Can you share vdragon's SEPA details with this group??

gapthemind is vdragons alias, hi is online but dont answer to pm

[Xer0]

What the Fuck???

[xgtele]

vdragon is online now (not logged in here, but probably reading all this shit) and he is still rotating btc between his misc btc accounts.

[afonso]

"Hello, i can't send you info atm. I'm working 2nd shift at work today, will do it when i get home.
I'm still hoping for the best" (gapthemind, Today at 03:21:44 PM UTC)

If gapthemind is an alias for vdragon, then yes, he is reading this forum.

[xgtele]

To read this forum you don't need to be registered at all.

[DannysCam]

if this is a scam i will forced to use the power of my youtube channel. i have over 5k subs and many are computer nerds they can assist...............shit just got real....

[albon]

well I have lost just about everything I had left. Had to pay for most of the BTC and now its gone

I feel so fu#king depresed 2 cons in a week is just to much for me to take

[DannysCam]

well I have lost just about everything I had left. Had to pay for most of the BTC and now its gone

I feel so fu#king depresed 2 cons in a week is just to much for me to take

i had to barrow money from my brother i bet hes going to call me a fuck up again....

[Twoja Stara]

Look: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=148086.0
His e-mail is on the list. So maybe someone bought (or hacked) his forum account to prepare this crime? Maybe he even isn't a European? All we have to do is wait for logs from administrators of this forum and start analyse data then inform the police and prosecutor, because they have the power to get the details from his hotmail, etc.

He didn't know, he did a biggest blow for himself. We just loose just the money, he loose a part of his soul and end to the life and after his current life he'll (his soul) be damnationed. I've just started prey for his soul. God bless you vdragon and remember: bad things you did are always back to you doubled.

[louhija]

Look: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=148086.0
His e-mail is on the list. So maybe someone bought (or hacked) his forum account to prepare this crime? Maybe he even isn't a European? All we have to do is wait for logs from administrators of this forum and start analyse data then inform the police and prosecutor, because they have the power to get the details from his hotmail, etc.

He didn't know, he did a biggest blow for himself. We just loose just the money, he loose a part of his soul and end to the life and after his current life he'll (his soul) be damnationed. I've just started prey for his soul. God bless you vdragon.

Wow. Just wow.

[DannysCam]

Look: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=148086.0
His e-mail is on the list. So maybe someone bought (or hacked) his forum account to prepare this crime? Maybe he even isn't a European? All we have to do is wait for logs from administrators of this forum and start analyse data then inform the police and prosecutor, because they have the power to get the details from his hotmail, etc.

He didn't know, he did a biggest blow for himself. We just loose just the money, he loose a part of his soul and end to the life and after his current life he'll (his soul) be damnationed. I've just started prey for his soul. God bless you vdragon and remember: bad things you did are always back to you doubled.

wow i guess we will never see our bitcoins again..... this is the second time i was scammed trying to buy usb miners.... one time was on amazon

[Xer0]

please all archive this thread and his old posts

saved all pages as *.maff but cant do full screenshots due to "too low video memory"

[kuusj98]

He fooled us with GAPTHEMIND, in reverse that would be MINDTHEGAP, you know what I mean...

[bbxx]

Maybe yxt could ask friedcat for 350 erupters for us with much lower price and distribute it for all scammed guys?

I am scammed too, 6 usb

[Nighthawkxx]

After reading all the latest information it indeed looks like a scam.  

[HellDiverUK]

I've just started prey for his soul. God bless you vdragon and remember:

Speaking of scams....2013 years and counting...

[Josue]

Maybe yxt could ask friedcat for 350 erupters for us with much lower price and distribute it for all scammed guys?

I am scammed too, 6 usb

+1

[qurashee]

Maybe yxt could ask friedcat for 350 erupters for us with much lower price and distribute it for all scammed guys?

I am scammed too, 6 usb

That would be nice but they are not a charity. Although to be honest when I saw yxt posting in this thread, it strengthened my belief that this is not a scam. Oh well we took our risks and lost, although I would like to see this guy prosecuted somehow.

[DannysCam]

Maybe yxt could ask friedcat for 350 erupters for us with much lower price and distribute it for all scammed guys?

I am scammed too, 6 usb

+1

+2  

[Xer0]

will open a task-force thread in a moment, stand by.

[DannysCam]

will open a task-force thread in a moment, stand by.

LINK ME!!!!!

[bbxx]

It is perfect crafted scam, but are we able to find hole in it?
I am really pissed now, i should not go as other sheeps did. Where is escrow, scam list check, id data escrow ?
This is lesson to learn for buyers, moderators and wholesalers.

[DannysCam]

It is perfect crafted scam, but are we able to find hole in it?
I am really pissed now, i should not go as other sheeps did. Where is escrow, scam list check, id data escrow ?
This is lesson to learn for buyers, moderators and wholesalers.

he has my address think about that....  How did you find out about the group buy? some guy from the BTC-e chat box messaged me with a link and told me he was ordering some from this guy

[Moogle]

I cannot help but laugh :/

I feel bad, but still

why be a c*nt?

[nomnomnom]

100% scam, there is no reasonable reason to spread our coins like he did.

Szabo Gabi            2             will pickup localy                                    1.78             (paid cash, btc done)
Nemet Gyula          2            will pickup localy                                     1.78             (paid cash, btc done)

gapthemind           30            Romania            GLS                              26.7             (sepa transfer)
Anonymous            1              Spain            GLS                                  0.89             (sepa transfer, btc done)

we are looking for this 4 guys if they are real. bank information will help a lot.
further do we need his IP.

I am sure, this 4 guys doesnt exist ....

I found this Nemet guy with google..., anyone from hungary and/or has meetup account?
http://www.meetup.com/BitcoinBudapest/members/50888732/

We could ask if he knows him IRL etc.

I hate to quote my own posts... But I have signed up with meetup and send the guy an email.
Will let you know if anything comes out of this.

[Moogle]

I cannot help but laugh :/

I feel bad, but still

why be a c*nt?

i'm so angry right now its unreal. For those who were scammed like myself (i paid for 11 erupters) i'm doing a group but for shares in a knc miner, sure you wont get the actual device but for 0.25BTC you can get the same hash speeds as a usb miner. check out my thread at: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=262280.0 for more details

[iiaurent]

I sent friedcat a question about a way he could help us

[Xer0]

here we go: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=262566.0

PLEASE KEEP THE SCAM DISCUSSION TO LINKED THREAD

[gapthemind]

As i told a guy that have sent me a PM, i was at a work doing 2nd shift and i couldnt send him info he asked and i told him i will do it when i come home.
So here are his bank infos:
HU87 1040 2812 8050 5553 5750 6002
name is Zoltan Nagy, bank is K&H Budapest, Hungary.

Now, all of you calling me a scammer i have samething to say to you, FUCK OFF. I have a real job and a baby on the way and i have more important things in my life then this forum.

[bbxx]

So it cant be scam, no one would waste his life and soul for 28k usd...
Or maybe i am wrong?

[Xer0]

there is a chance he is legit.

i analyzed the times of his wallet-washing ... will explain later

[tidus_13]

As i told a guy that have sent me a PM, i was at a work doing 2nd shift and i couldnt send him info he asked and i told him i will do it when i come home.
So here are his bank infos:
HU87 1040 2812 8050 5553 5750 6002
name is Zoltan Nagy, bank is K&H Budapest, Hungary.

Now, all of you calling me a scammer i have samething to say to you, FUCK OFF. I have a real job and a baby on the way and i have more important things in my life then this forum.

Thank you for the info.

[augustocroppo]

there is a chance he is legit.

i analyzed the times of his wallet-washing ... will explain later

If there is any chance, it is pretty tiny... Let's review few sentences by the potential fraudster:

P.S. 1. In an unlikely situation, if this group buy fails, returns will be done in BTC, whether you payed in BTC, SEPA/IBAN or cash.

Red Flag 1. Here vdragon is alerting that he will liquidate all payments in fiat to obtain BTC. In other words, he will "wash" the money trail.

P.S. 2. I don't do wishes on colors - its important to get the miners, this is not a fashion show!

Red Flag 2. Unnecessary arrogance about some buyers preference. This is classic from fraudsters.

P.S. 3. I am not sending accesories like USB hubs, Raspbery Pi and so on... Only miners.

Red Flag 3. Repeating the obvious, perhaps trying to induce the idea that there are countless buyers requiring a massive quantity of equipment. All to inspire a false sense of success.

P.S. 4. Please keep the questions like "What is this","How does it work" and similar to yourself - If you dont know what it is exactly, look up the
         threads on the forum, theres plenty. I am only here to try and organize a group buy, so that everyone gets a lower price

Red Flag 4. Again unnecessary arrogance. Failure to treat each buyer as individual and understand that everyone is curious about the product.

P.S. 5. Some people asked if orders can be canceled - yes they can, but if you make up your mind once, don't bother messaging me again later that you want in again

Red Flag 5. Complete stupid and incapable to handle the payment front line. What successful business you know would tell something like that to a customer: "Hey, if we refund you, never buy any of our products again!". Well, BFL and Avalon perhaps, but I do not consider them successful...

[Xer0]

bank info saved, please remove it again (qoutes too)
if all goes fine and he is legit this could cause him lots of stress

[Xer0]

there is a chance he is legit.

If there is any chance, it is pretty tiny...

this bitcoin laundering thing is strangy:

if you follow the always biggest chunk, at the end 14 BTC lands again on the payment address
plus 40 BTC from somewhere else, makes 54 BTC
which he then send to the same address where he started the mixing but:
did not touch it afterwards, still there

this was 23.07 ~6:00 GMT. then 8:00 he told his wallet did not sync.
so IF, and only if everything is legit:
he could transferred the 300 BTC throug a mixing service to his Laptop's Wallet or so, for some reason i dont understand

i mean... i still hope he is somewhere on the way with a 300 BTC wallet to Germany

[pajak666]

Hate to say that but this situation is partially caused by foggy procedure of ordering and long waiting time caused by XYT, I belive most of the buyers were not attracted by slightly cheaper price but they wanted to get they units as fast as possible.
Finally I did received 2 erupters from xyt but I also ordered two from vdragon because xyt was so foggy about ordering. If he would open his shop earlier and in some reasonable time, most of buyers wouldn't stick with vdragon.

[tidus_13]

The user:  Chefnet        Date Registered:   May 31, 2011, 03:44:40 PM
marked him as trusted...

[andrelam]

there is a chance he is legit.

If there is any chance, it is pretty tiny...

i mean... i still hope he is somewhere on the way with a 300 BTC wallet to Germany

Any words from yxt?

[yxt]

@pajak666
sure you can get it faster with a reseller in between...

@tidus_13
Chefnet is a trusted member of the german community, the trust was afaik for his refund

@andrelam
personaly i think the coins are gone  

no payment, no post here, but moving your coins around ...

[xgtele]

Brothers, the coins are gone. It doesn't matter do you want to accept it or not. This is our reality. Report this scam to EU police as soon as possible.

[DannysCam]

Brothers, the coins are gone. It doesn't matter do you want to accept it or not. This is our reality. Report this scam to EU police as soon as possible.

i feel bad for the people who ordered more then me i ordered 8 of them for 7.12 thats about 600 bucks usa money thats how much my last truck cost me....

[xgtele]

Brothers, the coins are gone. It doesn't matter do you want to accept it or not. This is our reality. Report this scam to EU police as soon as possible.

i feel bad for the people who ordered more then me i ordered 8 of them for 7.12 thats about 600 bucks usa money thats how much my last truck cost me....

I paid for 16..

[Moogle]

So it cant be scam, no one would waste his life and soul for 28k usd...
Or maybe i am wrong?

You'd be surprised what people would do for a lot less than that

[kuusj98]

As i told a guy that have sent me a PM, i was at a work doing 2nd shift and i couldnt send him info he asked and i told him i will do it when i come home.
So here are his bank infos:
HU87 1040 2812 8050 5553 5750 6002
name is Zoltan Nagy, bank is K&H Budapest, Hungary.

Now, all of you calling me a scammer i have samething to say to you, FUCK OFF. I have a real job and a baby on the way and i have more important things in my life then this forum.

Thanks, and sorry, it seemed so awkward...

[nowywbitcoinowymswiecie]

As i told a guy that have sent me a PM, i was at a work doing 2nd shift and i couldnt send him info he asked and i told him i will do it when i come home.
So here are his bank infos:
HU87 1040 2812 8050 5553 5750 6002
name is Zoltan Nagy, bank is K&H Budapest, Hungary.

Now, all of you calling me a scammer i have samething to say to you, FUCK OFF. I have a real job and a baby on the way and i have more important things in my life then this forum.

Hey, Thanks and dont be mad at others. Everybody are pissed off and its easy to be misunderstood.

Anyway - Family and newborn is very important and I am happy for You! Take care.

[PrintMule]

I cannot help but laugh :/

I feel bad, but still

why be a c*nt?

because there's increased number of group buy scams lately, while there's plenty of escrows around
you people never learn
also buying usb miners even for reselling is risky, and dont even think about mining

[afonso]

As i told a guy that have sent me a PM, i was at a work doing 2nd shift and i couldnt send him info he asked and i told him i will do it when i come home.
So here are his bank infos:
HU87 1040 2812 8050 5553 5750 6002
name is Zoltan Nagy, bank is K&H Budapest, Hungary.

Now, all of you calling me a scammer i have samething to say to you, FUCK OFF. I have a real job and a baby on the way and i have more important things in my life then this forum.

Do you have an address as well? Can you post the bank receipts please? (both payment and refund). This would be the best lead so far.

I don't know what kind of job you have but it has to be pretty good to make this issue sound so small, since you lost ~1800€. That's almost the annual minimum wage in your country (according to wikipedia)!

Now, it's kind of our fault that we transferred bitcoins to some random wallet, just like that. We should have asked to see his wallet with enough bitcoins for 800 erupters (and sign a message for proof of ownership). We should have asked for id, contact info, ... and proof!

This is the first time ever I got scammed. I guess bitcoin is just too much speculation and people stop being rational. (expensive) lesson learned!

[kuusj98]

Well, in the end, it's a good lesson learned, I had the luck that it didn't cost me anything.

And for vdragon: If you read this, you should know that my idea about eastern Europe has not changed, infact, you made me decide that your country is a shithole and only full of scammers...
If I ever get to see you, you better get away or I'll dump you in a river.

[Xer0]

green65, could that be your transaction?

https://blockchain.info/de/tx/cb68219582299f441ed1411ca168d89711af2615f1f91e3b7447d4e9029d1ba6

[green65]

green65, could that be your transaction?

https://blockchain.info/de/tx/cb68219582299f441ed1411ca168d89711af2615f1f91e3b7447d4e9029d1ba6

no mine are

Order 1 - (10 Erupters) – 2013-07-12: http://blockchain.info/tx-index/ece0c3c6a9a543f61a6f77064171f3aa8bd6aadcd3c97f998176f2bffdaf0e70

Order 2 - (10 Erupters) - 2013-07-13: http://blockchain.info/tx-index/e2c67805aa888a95a21c8f08f6657c2bc141a396eb8fa2491c934c9589aecdb7

Order 3 - (7 Erupters) - 2013-07-14: http://blockchain.info/tx-index/893d274b1410b2e6534821b530ae7968107646bf9f1464c7f885a3dde0270efa

Order 4 - (18 Erupters) - 2013-07-15: http://blockchain.info/tx-index/a7c17e415aa42e3a5eccc4ce1542958c0c43bae221b6661850b62a63509e5d2c

Order 5 - (9 Erupters) - 2013-07-18: http://blockchain.info/tx-index/3d3e0f4923afa4b1904fafe5673317c68193aea72da1d8ad4950752a55e3ddcd

[Xer0]

mh, whose mysterious 54 BTC he still keeps there without cashing out?

[eneloop]

The last transfer (40.05) its me.
It really galls me I hadn't taken a look at the blockchain before I sent the coins. I wouldn't have sent it if I had seen the balance (0).
I registered few days ago but I'm reading much longer at this board.

[andrelam]

green65, could that be your transaction?

https://blockchain.info/de/tx/cb68219582299f441ed1411ca168d89711af2615f1f91e3b7447d4e9029d1ba6

no mine are

Order 1 - (10 Erupters) – 2013-07-12: http://blockchain.info/tx-index/ece0c3c6a9a543f61a6f77064171f3aa8bd6aadcd3c97f998176f2bffdaf0e70

Order 2 - (10 Erupters) - 2013-07-13: http://blockchain.info/tx-index/e2c67805aa888a95a21c8f08f6657c2bc141a396eb8fa2491c934c9589aecdb7

Order 3 - (7 Erupters) - 2013-07-14: http://blockchain.info/tx-index/893d274b1410b2e6534821b530ae7968107646bf9f1464c7f885a3dde0270efa

Order 4 - (18 Erupters) - 2013-07-15: http://blockchain.info/tx-index/a7c17e415aa42e3a5eccc4ce1542958c0c43bae221b6661850b62a63509e5d2c

Order 5 - (9 Erupters) - 2013-07-18: http://blockchain.info/tx-index/3d3e0f4923afa4b1904fafe5673317c68193aea72da1d8ad4950752a55e3ddcd

I don't know if this helps in any way (guess not), but mine is:

(3 Erupters) - http://blockchain.info/tx-index/466a30b400512c2dd404b287395a7d3cd0a2e7cc7e7f87c1fd2ae1fbad604047

[kuusj98]

I still can't really beleve he did this, why on earth would someone do this?
Anyway, if you follow the -300BTC transaction and always choose the biggest - of that addres, you will end up at the same addres where you began for some reason?
He has to have a lot of addresses, bleh.

Don't take it personnaly, but I am so sick of eastern europe for the plain fact that there are scams every minute and trust is far to find, we HAD to know better.

How the fuck can someone do this, are people learned to do it this way, or are they so stupid to try to be mister-nice-guy and scam for 30,000$ afterwards?

[Xer0]

cant understand this either. he is registered since this years hype and was an normal active community member
runned GPU rigs, bought an Avalon, joined discussions daily. there could be many reasons...

- he could really have sold his account to a scammer recently
- he saw the shiny thirty thousand real american dollars making bling-bling on his wallet and got greedy
- he planned to scam from the beginning and faked credibility for months just waiting to the perfect opportunity

[wedgy2k]

FFS! 
Was too good to be true....... <head in hands>

[xgtele]

To whom it may concern

xgtele's official statement

If you are UK/EU police officer or private investigator conducting an investigation of vdragon's scam criminal case, I am willing to help you and answer to all your questions, if any. PM me anytime.

In addition to motivate you to work "outside the box", I am offering an appreciation award in the amount of 50% of my coins which returned back to me as the result of your hard work. I lost 14.24 btc. If you return me all of them, I will immediately transfer the award in the amount of 7.12 btc to any bitcoin wallet of your choice.

Thank you for your time.

xgtele

[tidus_13]

As i told a guy that have sent me a PM, i was at a work doing 2nd shift and i couldnt send him info he asked and i told him i will do it when i come home.
So here are his bank infos:
HU87 1040 2812 8050 5553 5750 6002
name is Zoltan Nagy, bank is K&H Budapest, Hungary.

Now, all of you calling me a scammer i have samething to say to you, FUCK OFF. I have a real job and a baby on the way and i have more important things in my life then this forum.

Sepa transfer requires Telephone number and local address right?

[nottm28]

Yep -

As i told a guy that have sent me a PM, i was at a work doing 2nd shift and i couldnt send him info he asked and i told him i will do it when i come home.
So here are his bank infos:
HU87 1040 2812 8050 5553 5750 6002
name is Zoltan Nagy, bank is K&H Budapest, Hungary.

Now, all of you calling me a scammer i have samething to say to you, FUCK OFF. I have a real job and a baby on the way and i have more important things in my life then this forum.

Sepa transfer requires Telephone number and local address right?

Yep - gapthemind is playing with you

[pajak666]

cant understand this either. he is registered since this years hype and was an normal active community member
runned GPU rigs, bought an Avalon, joined discussions daily. there could be many reasons...

- he could really have sold his account to a scammer recently
- he saw the shiny thirty thousand real american dollars making bling-bling on his wallet and got greedy
- he planned to scam from the beginning and faked credibility for months just waiting to the perfect opportunity

maybe we can admins if he did registered with different email adress than he used recently?

[eneloop]

I don't need phone and address, just IBAN+BIC and name for SEPA.

[Xer0]

The last transfer (40.05) its me.

did he wrote you something like "pay 24th, im moving the trip 1 day anyway" ?
this would explain why he returned to post a last time - to get all the "goxed" payments too

[qurashee]

To whom it may concern

xgtele's official statement

If you are UK/EU police officer or private investigator conducting an investigation of vdragon's scam criminal case, I am willing to help you and answer to all your questions, if any. PM me anytime.

In addition to motivate you to work "outside the box", I am offering an appreciation award in the amount of 50% of my coins which returned back to me as the result of your hard work. I lost 14.24 btc. If you return me all of them, I will immediately transfer the award in the amount of 7.12 btc to any bitcoin wallet of your choice.

Thank you for your time.

xgtele

The above statement fully covers me so I'm also offering half of my loss for this cause, which results to 3.115 btc

[eneloop]

The last transfer (40.05) its me.

did he wrote you something like "pay 24th, im moving the trip 1 day anyway" ?
this would explain why he returned to post a last time - to get all the "goxed" payments too

I asked him about the deadline. Answer:

July 23, 2013, 09:35:29 PM
I am but only early morning, before maybe 10am, because I have to transfer the btc to yxt

It is his last message I got from him too.

[Xer0]

yeah, so he really pretended to move his trip until the last one, you, has paid
otherwise he would have been disapeared right away without further posts

[gmaxwell]

Please start up a thread in scam accusations, the subforum mods can't really do anything useful about the fraud.

[HellDiverUK]

Please start up a thread in scam accusations, the subforum mods can't really do anything useful about the fraud.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=262566.0
 

[zoobidoo]

Mp to green65 also done...

[andrelam]

Any news?

[DannysCam]

Any news?

i did a youtube video talking about it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9yPlyefH8k

[xgtele]

Any news?

i did a youtube video talking about it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9yPlyefH8k

Don't cry, Danny! 

[tidus_13]

The thing is admin isn't cooperating with us to give IPs.

[nomnomnom]

The thing is admin isn't cooperating with us to give IPs.

Why not? I think only theymos can see ip, but tbh I don't think it will help much :/

Anyway, I noticed there are alot of people from the U.K. in the orderlist,
I hope you've seen this post from green65 in the other thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=262566):

I have contacted action fraud today and got a crime ref. number.  

Can everyone who was scammed in the UK report it to http://www.actionfraud.police.uk/ if you want to i can provide you with my crime ref number so everyones reports can be linked (PM or email me)

If your outside the uk report it to your countries police.

[Green Samurai]

vdragon - I will find You soon.
I remember about Your cheat.

Tic-tac, justice is very close...

[tidus_13]

vdragon - I will find You soon.
I remember about Your cheat.

Tic-tac, justice is very close...

...

[xgtele]

Any update with this shit??

[Green Samurai]

vdragon it's long time You thief.

Look Out INTERPOL is very close to You now.

For today You own me 8 BTC and 3 BTC interests. IT's about now 168 000 USD madafucker.

See You soon.