nwfella
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July 08, 2013, 09:52:28 PM |
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Gimme the crypto!!
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yuchuanzhen
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July 08, 2013, 10:24:27 PM |
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Basically,this team designed chips(110nm) for Avalon.
And for some unknown reason,they are looking for some new partner/investor.(40nm) And,we don't know what happened inside Avalon.
To summarize what you and johnyj have said: (1) Key members of the Avalon design team are now independent of Avalon; (2) This new design team is proposing the development of a 40nm chip; (3) The team is seeking investment - as in capital, as opposed to crowd source or pre-sales. IS THIS CORRECT?Pretty much,as the author says. And,he did not make this clear.But,almost there.
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yuchuanzhen
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July 09, 2013, 12:54:33 AM |
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Basically,this team designed chips(110nm) for Avalon.
And for some unknown reason,they are looking for some new partner/investor.(40nm) And,we don't know what happened inside Avalon.
To summarize what you and johnyj have said: (1) Key members of the Avalon design team are now independent of Avalon; (2) This new design team is proposing the development of a 40nm chip; (3) The team is seeking investment - as in capital, as opposed to crowd source or pre-sales. IS THIS CORRECT?Pretty much,as the author says. And,he did not make this clear.But,almost there. And,also based on the author said,MAYBE there will be another delay of Avalon chip. Just MAYBE.
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Loredo
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July 09, 2013, 01:26:24 AM |
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To summarize what you and johnyj have said: (1) Key members of the Avalon design team are now independent of Avalon; (2) This new design team is proposing the development of a 40nm chip; (3) The team is seeking investment - as in capital, as opposed to crowd source or pre-sales.
IS THIS CORRECT?
Pretty much,as the author says. And,he did not make this clear.But,almost there. And,also based on the author said,MAYBE there will be another delay of Avalon chip. Just MAYBE. I am not so interested in what the author might say about Avalon. If he recently parted from Avalon, then whatever he says is unreliable. Mainly I am interested in a credible Shenzen-based proposal to deploy a 40nm chip, and also interested in whether they are funding privately or soliciting investment to underwrite NRE and other expenses. I thank you. Also, if I may be so bold to ask, is the uniform in your avatar that of PLA?
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yuchuanzhen
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July 09, 2013, 01:37:37 AM |
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I thank you. Also, if I may be so bold to ask, is the uniform in your avatar that of PLA?
Not exactly. And it just a avatar.
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yeemartin
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July 09, 2013, 01:50:17 AM |
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I thank you. Also, if I may be so bold to ask, is the uniform in your avatar that of PLA?
Not exactly. And it just a avatar. it's armed police uniform.
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Xian01
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July 10, 2013, 05:02:53 AM |
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That right there, is a lot of chips...
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dexX7
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July 10, 2013, 09:19:52 AM |
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*AWESOME PICTURES* Sorry, do you mind to provide some context for me? I feel kinda lost right now. OP talks about a team which was part of Avalon's dev crew and plans to release a 40 nm chip and I think you are a board developer for Avalon chips. And you post pictures of a really huge amount of Avalon chips. I don't get the connection, yet..? I'm sure those aren't Gridchip's 40 nm chips, so my best guess: their are all yours and you do more than delivering PCBs, but complete mining boards. But that would rise the next very important question: did Avalon begin to ship the chips and you already received them?
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yuchuanzhen
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July 10, 2013, 10:02:56 AM |
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Sorry, do you mind to provide some context for me? I feel kinda lost right now. OP talks about a team which was part of Avalon's dev crew and plans to release a 40 nm chip and I think you are a board developer for Avalon chips. And you post pictures of a really huge amount of Avalon chips. I don't get the connection, yet..? I'm sure those aren't Gridchip's 40 nm chips, so my best guess: their are all yours and you do more than delivering PCBs, but complete mining boards. But that would rise the next very important question: did Avalon begin to ship the chips and you already received them? Gridchip's original post is not here,and it's all chinese. Based on Gridchip's post: - Gridchip designed the 110nm chip for Avalon.
- Now,Gridchip is working on 40nm chip,so there is no 40nm chip now.
- And Gridchip want to do the sell (40nm chip) directly,not with Avalon any more.
- Gridchip post those picture to prove what he said.
- There MAYBE some delay because TSMC is busy,just MAYBE.
- And the 40nm chip hash rate will be 2-2.5G
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GandalfG
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Dig your freedom
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July 10, 2013, 02:08:43 PM |
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Sorry, do you mind to provide some context for me? I feel kinda lost right now. OP talks about a team which was part of Avalon's dev crew and plans to release a 40 nm chip and I think you are a board developer for Avalon chips. And you post pictures of a really huge amount of Avalon chips. I don't get the connection, yet..? I'm sure those aren't Gridchip's 40 nm chips, so my best guess: their are all yours and you do more than delivering PCBs, but complete mining boards. But that would rise the next very important question: did Avalon begin to ship the chips and you already received them? Gridchip's original post is not here,and it's all chinese. Based on Gridchip's post: - Gridchip designed the 110nm chip for Avalon.
- Now,Gridchip is working on 40nm chip,so there is no 40nm chip now.
- And Gridchip want to do the sell (40nm chip) directly,not with Avalon any more.
- Gridchip post those picture to prove what he said.
- There MAYBE some delay because TSMC is busy,just MAYBE.
- And the 40nm chip hash rate will be 2-2.5G
One very important question for all DYI miner developer and his customer. Are 40nm chip backward compatible witch "old" Avalon ? I mean pin outs and communication protocol. If there personal/financial problem between Avalon and Gridchip how will this affect the timely delivery of ordered chips ?
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Want to say thanks? 16ragydppe9QFRVhrdwEUjgfMS7KCfEFGY
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tiros
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Just another miner
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July 10, 2013, 02:29:21 PM |
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Power and money make you "friends" you don't want, and turns those real ones the ones you want to go away. If news about split are true, I will be sad in their behalf for a while.
I can't be excited thinking about new chips (even if that news is good), still waiting the original ones to arrive.
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Greed shouldn't be the essence of bitcoin
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Exocyst
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Science!
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July 10, 2013, 02:59:53 PM |
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This is hardly surprising. Avalon was started reluctantly to create balance for BFL (which they failed to do since BFL was very late). Their director has repeatedly expressed reluctance to staying in the ASIC manufacturing market. It is hardly surprising that some of their team would be engaged by their manufacturing partners—who make money by continued, growth in manufacturing. What surprise is it that this new group would want to produce more efficient chips as well? This split was both inevitable and necessary for all parties involved.
I think we all hope Avalon distributes their bulk chips soon and that this split is not running counter to timely delivery of bulk chip orders.
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papamoi
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July 10, 2013, 03:06:48 PM |
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Sorry, do you mind to provide some context for me? I feel kinda lost right now. OP talks about a team which was part of Avalon's dev crew and plans to release a 40 nm chip and I think you are a board developer for Avalon chips. And you post pictures of a really huge amount of Avalon chips. I don't get the connection, yet..? I'm sure those aren't Gridchip's 40 nm chips, so my best guess: their are all yours and you do more than delivering PCBs, but complete mining boards. But that would rise the next very important question: did Avalon begin to ship the chips and you already received them? Gridchip's original post is not here,and it's all chinese. Based on Gridchip's post: - Gridchip designed the 110nm chip for Avalon.
- Now,Gridchip is working on 40nm chip,so there is no 40nm chip now.
- And Gridchip want to do the sell (40nm chip) directly,not with Avalon any more.
- Gridchip post those picture to prove what he said.
- There MAYBE some delay because TSMC is busy,just MAYBE.
- And the 40nm chip hash rate will be 2-2.5G
do you know how to contact him?
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taolj
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July 10, 2013, 03:45:09 PM |
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Sorry, do you mind to provide some context for me? I feel kinda lost right now. OP talks about a team which was part of Avalon's dev crew and plans to release a 40 nm chip and I think you are a board developer for Avalon chips. And you post pictures of a really huge amount of Avalon chips. I don't get the connection, yet..? I'm sure those aren't Gridchip's 40 nm chips, so my best guess: their are all yours and you do more than delivering PCBs, but complete mining boards. But that would rise the next very important question: did Avalon begin to ship the chips and you already received them? Gridchip's original post is not here,and it's all chinese. Based on Gridchip's post: - Gridchip designed the 110nm chip for Avalon.
- Now,Gridchip is working on 40nm chip,so there is no 40nm chip now.
- And Gridchip want to do the sell (40nm chip) directly,not with Avalon any more.
- Gridchip post those picture to prove what he said.
- There MAYBE some delay because TSMC is busy,just MAYBE.
- And the 40nm chip hash rate will be 2-2.5G
do you know how to contact him? gridchip@gmail.com
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papamoi
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July 10, 2013, 04:23:38 PM |
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thanks taoji
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LainZ
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July 12, 2013, 07:29:32 PM |
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Bump for the following: Quoting gridchip @ http://bbs.btcman.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=4691&extra=page%3D1&page=1最近台积的产能似乎有些紧。 手头有现货的矿工该高兴了
台积的产能就是蝴蝶翅膀
Can someone please translate gridchip's posts? Thanks.
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They have always known that faith in money is a mass illusion, however they never considered that they wouldn’t be in charge of the illusion - Jon Matonis The first principle is that you must not fool yourself, and you are the easiest person to fool - Richard Feynman
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hchc
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July 12, 2013, 08:17:30 PM |
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TSMC manufacturing capacity is quite full. Those with miners already in hand should be happy My interpretation: difficulty won't rise as fast as you would think
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July 12, 2013, 08:19:18 PM |
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Using google translate: the first quote: Recent TSMC's production capacity seems a bit tight. The miners in stock on hand happy
the second: TSMC's production capacity is the butterfly wings I suspect "the butterfly wings" is an idiom - guessing by the previous quote it is probably to say that their free capacity has gone with the wind.. just a guess though.
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