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December 06, 2017, 11:14:10 PM
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So what's next then - can ETH fix this, or do you think this is a chance for another coin to take its 'second' spot behind bitcoin? And if so, which one? Something built off the ETH network, or a completely different solution? I am doing my best to learn but am still pretty hazy about all the technicalities (strengths and weaknesses) of the different blockchains, tangle, etc etc

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December 06, 2017, 11:26:11 PM
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The lagging on ETH transfers today because of one dumb game is a real problem in my opinion. Is this merely a stress test - can ETH easily roll out a fix? Or is this the chance for ETH competitors to swoop in and show how they have better platforms? I was really trying to build up a little ETH portfolio so today's developments have me literally going  Huh

Can those of you more familiar with what's going on please explain if this is a glitch in the matrix or a long-term issue?


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You are right that this game exposes the weaknesses of ethereum, and developers admit this as well. But they also think that this is blessing in disguise. Because of this game developers would know where to focus on their upgrades on the system and what upgrades the system needs that it is lacking now.
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December 07, 2017, 12:22:49 AM
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The simple solution is to move things like CryptoKitties off the blockchain for internal transactions. A rising GAS price will eventually do that. One person's problem is another's opportunity. Higher GAS prices might make it a good time to invest in mining gear for Ethereum.

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December 07, 2017, 12:58:07 AM
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This whole thing scares the shit out of me. Shows just that the network is still in its infancy and not at all ready for a broader audience, although there is always advertising like that. What might happen if now people start to spill out similar dapps on the market for example with pokemons or some other stuff for the masses. Could this bring the whole network down? Or make it so congested that its not usable anymore at all?
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December 07, 2017, 01:20:30 AM
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Please explain, does IOTA architecture doesn't have such a problem with transaction fees and speed?

Everyone from my circle of friends talking about CryptoKitties and ETH performance issues
And they told me that IOTA is a next-gen blockchain without such kind of issues.

Can anyone explain me in a few words is this a true? Is this a reason why IOTA  price is growing instead of ETH price last week?
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December 07, 2017, 03:26:57 PM
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Yes definitely. Prior people were happy about how this shows potential usage for the ETH network beyond ICOs and they were correct...but only if it can handle the volume and transactions. Clearly the ETH network needs some work but the potential is still there which should be encouraging.
The potential is always going to be there and what has happened is really here to answer a lot of people's question about increasing block size to be the best scaling issue. Now they have it with Ethereum and despite that, the network still got flooded with so many huge transactions trying to go all in at once, including the spam ones.

The game really helped in a way to expose this to people so they can understand better but I do not think that should affect Eth in anyway. People really just need a lot to learn about block sizes and why the scream about BCH not being a better option to BTC is correct.
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December 07, 2017, 08:50:37 PM
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Yes it does, but with every system stress tests are always needed to see what the capabilities are and how to improve it.

Imagine if ETH was adopted globally in society right now? This allows the developers to sort out issues before it becomes a bigger problem. I know some people are angry about the kitties but ETH will come back stronger from it.
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December 07, 2017, 08:59:41 PM
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CryptoKitties shows what anyone knew - today's Ethereum version does not work well with high-load and I want to remind you that a half volume of transactions made by Ethereum network (before CryptoKitties).
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December 07, 2017, 09:39:16 PM
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Is Ethereum really slower than Bitcoin? I've just looked up number of pending transactions, ethereum has 22000-23000, bitcoin has +216000
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December 07, 2017, 11:48:43 PM
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Yes it does, but with every system stress tests are always needed to see what the capabilities are and how to improve it.

Imagine if ETH was adopted globally in society right now? This allows the developers to sort out issues before it becomes a bigger problem. I know some people are angry about the kitties but ETH will come back stronger from it.
On account of this, I think the price for ETH may decrease - if these problems do not resolve, and if mistakes are corrected and everything gets better - there will be an increase in value. In any case, there is a possibility of the development of such events.


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December 08, 2017, 12:36:50 PM
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The lagging on ETH transfers today because of one dumb game is a real problem in my opinion. Is this merely a stress test - can ETH easily roll out a fix? Or is this the chance for ETH competitors to swoop in and show how they have better platforms? I was really trying to build up a little ETH portfolio so today's developments have me literally going  Huh

Can those of you more familiar with what's going on please explain if this is a glitch in the matrix or a long-term issue?
One thing most people do not understand is that stuffs like this will always help prevent spam attacks on the Ethereum network and for those who think Eth is exempted because they have been having it cool for a while; they are welcome to the blockchain atmosphere.

It can happen to any network, once it gets congested and because a lot of attention has been on bitcoin, people have criticized it a lot, but I guess they all have something to say about Ethereum now.

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December 08, 2017, 01:37:06 PM
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We maybe I can assess it as a weakness that we could know all we need to know and what the reason was, of course, that is something that the competition cant avoid if we blame one party for us and it causes us to be get unilateral thinking and we must be able to monitor and seek an advantage by finding the weak spots and exploit opportunities.
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December 08, 2017, 02:13:15 PM
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Yes it does show a weakness, but every good system needs to be stress tested regularly to make sure it can deal with volume. This has just highlighted an issue and will make ETH stronger.
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December 08, 2017, 04:58:08 PM
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How easy of a fix is it, though? Can ETH quickly and effectively make the changes needed in order for it to be able to support several DAPPS in addition to regular traffic and all the additional traffic from upcoming ICOs?

I'm asking because I genuinely want to understand where the strong support for ETH on this board stems from. I am still rather new to the all of this, particularly the technical side of things.
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December 08, 2017, 05:04:07 PM
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Yeah, IMHO, This kitties can expose what ETH need to do for long term project. The scalabity, how can the simple game like that can shut ETH slowly. Hope ETH can make any progress of their Network.

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December 08, 2017, 06:19:04 PM
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We already knew about scaling issue, its hust that we hit the wall now. Hope they fix it soon Smiley
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December 08, 2017, 06:21:59 PM
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Yes surely is,ethereum's network is so fragile with its lack of developer's skill to maintain their own system,funny it is? kitty just killed ethereum.

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December 08, 2017, 06:28:10 PM
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Ethereum reached the ATH of 800K transactions in a day, record for a public blockchain. Transactions are still faster and cheaper than bitcoin.

Then yes scaling solution are needed (both on and off chain) to have multiple Dapps running smoothly on the public network. Developers are working on it and many solutions are on the way (sharding, POS, etc...)

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December 08, 2017, 06:42:59 PM
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Absolutely yes. If just a kitten joke can crash a platform which pretends to become the infrastructure of the world, imagine what mass adoption would provoke...

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December 08, 2017, 07:14:52 PM
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What are the best alternatives in terms of smart contracts for Dapps?

Am I right in thinking that nothing is proven in the same way as Ethereum but lots of interesting projects have betas or key milestones early next year?

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