40 nm ASIC coming, designed by those claiming to be behind the scene of Avalon

[Loredo]

You guys should really take a look at those photos.

Now a new team claims that they will be designing 40 nm ASIC chips. They even claim that Yifu outsourced the design of Avalon to them, with those photos:

http://www.btcman.com/bbs/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=4621&extra=page%3D1&page=4

So are these millions of chips manufactured 40nm node?

According to post #9:
"These are just the same pics as the current avalons, check the serial nums, I see no difference..:

BUT: If the airbill trace above is correct, then these photos were taken in the last two weeks. 

Whether these chips are bound for machines yet to be assembled, or bound for chip sales, I can't believe YiFu can be happy about this information having become public. 

[krayzie32]

I meant small box contains 2600 chips. So big box has 6 small boxes. And 135 big boxes. So I guess total chips <= 2600 * 6 * 135 = 2,106,000

But there are only 24 cases, look at the cases you can see the x/24 on them in marker and on the stickers.

[GandalfG]

You guys should really take a look at those photos.

Now a new team claims that they will be designing 40 nm ASIC chips. They even claim that Yifu outsourced the design of Avalon to them, with those photos:

http://www.btcman.com/bbs/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=4621&extra=page%3D1&page=4

So are these millions of chips manufactured 40nm node?

Shrink  from 110nm to 40nm ?  (Both are half nodes)
Its possible, but  more interesting question is destination this chip.  For new Avalon from batch 4 and next or some big customer ?

[goxed]

I meant small box contains 2600 chips. So big box has 6 small boxes. And 135 big boxes. So I guess total chips <= 2600 * 6 * 135 = 2,106,000

But there are only 24 cases, look at the cases you can see the x/24 on them in marker and on the stickers.

The picture shows 24 pieces sticker, but the tracking number claims 135 pieces though .
http://www.track-shipments.com/track-trace.aspx?pref=AWB&awbno=87150508076

[trigeek]

On the other hand, if the chips sales aren't due to start until September as someone said, what the hell are they doing with a million chips (or 300,000, but whatever the right math is: a buttload of chips) in Shenzen or at least at HKG?

Whoever said september was just pulling numbers out of thin air.  The first chip batches were sold at the end of April.  Avalon specified a lead time of 9-10 weeks, which works out to the end of last month.  

Also- if you look at Avalon's BTC address for chip orders, there's approx. 75,000 BTC there.  This works out to around 97 orders of 10,000 chips, or just short of a million chips.  So these pictures may very well be almost ALL of the orders of avalon chips so far.

Avalon's address: http://blockchain.info/fb/1fgaftz

[papamoi]

hi

i think those are the chips wich have been ordered in early may/june 2013

so what s seems unusual here?

[GandalfG]

hi

i think those are the chips wich have been ordered in early may/june 2013

so what s seems unusual here?

40nm instead 110 maybe
But despite my deep wish, it's hard for me to believe in such a scenario.

[btceic]

You guys should really take a look at those photos.

Now a new team claims that they will be designing 40 nm ASIC chips. They even claim that Yifu outsourced the design of Avalon to them, with those photos:

http://www.btcman.com/bbs/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=4621&extra=page%3D1&page=4

So are these millions of chips manufactured 40nm node?

According to post #9:
"These are just the same pics as the current avalons, check the serial nums, I see no difference..:

BUT: If the airbill trace above is correct, then these photos were taken in the last two weeks. 

Whether these chips are bound for machines yet to be assembled, or bound for chip sales, I can't believe YiFu can be happy about this information having become public. 

use this site to extract the picture date as well as geo info:
http://regex.info/exif.cgi

[Bitcoinorama]

40nm is being offered by BTCman/Garden as a proposed future offering.

This is the same guy that publicly slated every competitor on his forum, before ranting about Western/European work ethic.

Now I think he appears to be taking a swipe at Avalon potentially highlighting the bulk chips have been ready for a while...

[szmarco]

As a chinese,I understand every word of the man posted.
Maybe the truth is...
The man is the designer & supplier of avalon. The price negotiation between avalon $ him was crashed.So he delayed all chips of avalon's orders.And he posted this info to give a heavy pressure to avalon. Meanwhile he is looking for  new customers or partners or he wants to run the business by himself.

It's just my supposition.

[auto2nr1]

As a chinese,I understand every word of the man posted.
Maybe the truth is...
The man is the designer & supplier of avalon. The price negotiation between avalon $ him was crashed.So he delayed all chips of avalon's orders.And he posted this info to give a heavy pressure to avalon. Meanwhile he is looking for  new customers or partners or he wants to run the business by himself.

It's just my supposition.

Can someone translate and post what has been put up on btcman? Thanks.

[Bitcoinorama]

As a chinese,I understand every word of the man posted.
Maybe the truth is...
The man is the designer & supplier of avalon. The price negotiation between avalon $ him was crashed.So he delayed all chips of avalon's orders.And he posted this info to give a heavy pressure to avalon. Meanwhile he is looking for  new customers or partners or he wants to run the business by himself.

It's just my supposition.

Can someone translate and post what has been put up on btcman? Thanks.

As in SZMarco as he claims to understand every word the man posted...

[mxz280]

I set the pumpkin mining machine? Relationship engage in anti, pumpkin set up my chips

[mxz280]

40nm chips will eventually be a formal, public order channels.
All chips will be for me to give orders TSMC manufacturing orders in Fujitsu package, and then commissioned express delivery.
Chip orders is the smallest unit 2600, collected enough 2600 miners need their own group.
2600 limits the reason is very simple, because Fujitsu is a 2600 chip packaging box (260 * 10).

[mxz280]

110nm chip has an agreement first, and only intended for Avalon / squash team.
40nm chip is no similar agreement, you can open the supply.

[Loredo]

Well, I had to come back for this.  An interesting end to the day.

At #33: "I set the pumpkin mining machine? Relationship engage in anti, pumpkin set up my chips"
At #35: "110nm chip has an agreement first, and only intended for Avalon / squash team."

Squash and pumpkin are close to synonyms, so I wonder if this means what I think it might mean...

Later.

[mxz280]

Google Translation

[SRoulette]

As a chinese,I understand every word of the man posted.
Maybe the truth is...
The man is the designer & supplier of avalon. The price negotiation between avalon $ him was crashed.So he delayed all chips of avalon's orders.And he posted this info to give a heavy pressure to avalon. Meanwhile he is looking for  new customers or partners or he wants to run the business by himself.

It's just my supposition.

The way Yifu handles "business" i would not be surprised in the least.

[yuchuanzhen]

here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=252233.0

[yuchuanzhen]

Well, I had to come back for this.  An interesting end to the day.

At #33: "I set the pumpkin mining machine? Relationship engage in anti, pumpkin set up my chips"
At #35: "110nm chip has an agreement first, and only intended for Avalon / squash team."

Squash and pumpkin are close to synonyms, so I wonder if this means what I think it might mean...

Later.

pumpkin means "ngzhang": https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=38132
squash is the same.