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July 13, 2013, 02:08:27 AM
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this is all very cool, but i fail to see the need for prime numbers this large, other than so you can brag about the record to your fellow nerds of course.
(These aren't particularly large for prime numbers. They're big  for prime number chains.) Some mathematicians may find this data useful. That's already infinitely more valuable than the results of bitcoin's sha256 / litecoin's scrypt random proof-of-work statements outside of the context of the currency.

good point, however i disagree that they are "infinitely more valuable". one has scientific value(which in my mind is debatable) and one has security(proven until its broken.) seems like an apples and oranges argument to me.
Primecoin's has both.

I find it a bit disappointing that for all of the extreme amounts of computational power that goes into Bitcoin's blockchain, all we get is a verification of the latest block. There's no interesting analysis possible of the proof-of-work statements. Primecoin at least doubles as an enormously huge chain of mildly interesting computations.
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July 13, 2013, 02:10:54 AM
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this is all very cool, but i fail to see the need for prime numbers this large, other than so you can brag about the record to your fellow nerds of course.
(These aren't particularly large for prime numbers. They're big  for prime number chains.) Some mathematicians may find this data useful. That's already infinitely more valuable than the results of bitcoin's sha256 / litecoin's scrypt random proof-of-work statements outside of the context of the currency.

good point, however i disagree that they are "infinitely more valuable". one has scientific value(which in my mind is debatable) and one has security(proven until its broken.) seems like an apples and oranges argument to me.
Primecoin's has both.

I find it a bit disappointing that for all of the extreme amounts of computational power that goes into Bitcoin's blockchain, all we get is a verification of the latest block. There's no interesting analysis possible of the proof-of-work statements. Primecoin at least doubles as an enormously huge chain of mildly interesting computations.

quick, lets make UFO coin. every signal decrypted and processed is a block. first person who decrypts it a processes is rewarded the block. now we have another scientific coin. see where i'm going with this? you know, at first i was being facetious but you just might have sold me. maybe scientific computations offered by prime and any future coins like it could offer a pseudo-backing for the currency, much in the way that physical gold and silver once backed physical paper money

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July 13, 2013, 02:17:35 AM
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For block 12344:

Code:
20:58:10
signmessage APLLrWbHapoRVxLAxBUkDU1hkx4VbCJHQX "Koooooj owns this address"

20:58:10
IBBD3qd/bbh5npcj7pEQCBqZUwiYaaE/y097+P0EBeB5fH4eJCqvNzrxzm20P6kWFq/0wmp0cZQTHk78cpfaYbM=

For block 17302:

Code:
21:00:27
signmessage AbrPM2J3WLvgz87t13wU46VwvVW5dM1Vdq "Koooooj owns this address"

21:00:27
IH8dQ+I2e4WWZIpXbqhXrquLXMnNdx847+HUeuadcqyeB77XPe3tmN2bG/FdOPZv7id9Q0eMuQ4UO7iBaq0wUf0=

I think I got the right blocks and signed correctly; my local QT client returns true upon verification requests.
All of that verifies for me.

Primecoin's has both.

I find it a bit disappointing that for all of the extreme amounts of computational power that goes into Bitcoin's blockchain, all we get is a verification of the latest block. There's no interesting analysis possible of the proof-of-work statements. Primecoin at least doubles as an enormously huge chain of mildly interesting computations.

quick, lets make UFO coin. every signal decrypted and processed is a block. first person who decrypts it a processes is rewarded the block. now we have another scientific coin. see where i'm going with this? you know, at first i was being facetious but you just might have sold me. maybe scientific computations offered by prime and any future coins like it could offer a pseudo-backing for the currency, much in the way that physical gold and silver once backed physical paper money
Doing analysis of external datasets would be a bit difficult to accomplish in a decentralized cryptocurrency, and the work has to be extremely quick to verify that it's correct, so many types of computations are out of reach sadly.
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July 13, 2013, 02:46:22 AM
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Also, block 1509, which is a bi-twin chain of 3 links and has an origin of 106 digits:

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signmessage ASNg61dJ8vJPUQ9NvFaajX4qSvShPQxKeg "Koooooj owns this address"

21:44:59
H138sg1WvaZridL9Mozc1fFS59fByVkR5EW8pcuBNFHb6MsjjyK0z3noqmAjiY1jOvCfwtTTZyjZtaJvNk80jHc=
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July 13, 2013, 03:31:54 AM
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Looks like block 25180 contains a new world record for 1CC10: 100 digits.

PGP KEY | 1Bitcoin3Tg2KWyAq3wzivdqwYqGwKYaGd
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July 13, 2013, 06:51:56 AM
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Looks like block 25180 contains a new world record for 1CC10: 100 digits.
Are you sure? Did you check this  Shocked


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July 13, 2013, 06:59:15 AM
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Looks like block 25180 contains a new world record for 1CC10: 100 digits.
Are you sure? Did you check this  Shocked

Clark seems to be on his game when it comes to prime chains. For now we take his word. i'm sure he will be here with proof sooner or later.

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July 13, 2013, 09:03:31 AM
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Looks like block 25180 contains a new world record for 1CC10: 100 digits.
Are you sure? Did you check this  Shocked

Clark seems to be on his game when it comes to prime chains. For now we take his word. i'm sure he will be here with proof sooner or later.
If you run "primecoind getblockhash 25180" and then "primecoind getblock hash", then you can see it yourself.
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July 13, 2013, 09:03:45 AM
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Clark,

I get an error halfway your script (great script btw!!)

Code:
New Primecoin record: TWN08, 172 digits, Block 11900
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "records.py", line 112, in <module>
    main()
  File "records.py", line 73, in main
    chainlength = int(chain[3:5])
ValueError: invalid literal for int() with base 10: '0a'

Any idea whats wrong?

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July 13, 2013, 09:04:53 AM
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Clark,

I get an error halfway your script (great script btw!!)

Code:
New Primecoin record: TWN08, 172 digits, Block 11900
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "records.py", line 112, in <module>
    main()
  File "records.py", line 73, in main
    chainlength = int(chain[3:5])
ValueError: invalid literal for int() with base 10: '0a'

Any idea whats wrong?
The value is in base 16. Change "int(chain[3:5])" to "int(chain[3:5], 16)".
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July 13, 2013, 09:20:03 AM
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Clark,

I get an error halfway your script (great script btw!!)

Code:
New Primecoin record: TWN08, 172 digits, Block 11900
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "records.py", line 112, in <module>
    main()
  File "records.py", line 73, in main
    chainlength = int(chain[3:5])
ValueError: invalid literal for int() with base 10: '0a'

Any idea whats wrong?
The value is in base 16. Change "int(chain[3:5])" to "int(chain[3:5], 16)".

Check! That was it, thanks!

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July 13, 2013, 09:33:36 AM
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One question...

This means that I have a record?



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July 13, 2013, 09:46:47 AM
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One question...

This means that I have a record?



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Thanks in advance  Grin

according to the trolls in the cryptsy chatbox, primechains are only pseudo mathematics and have no use in the real world, so don't get your hopes up i guess. me i think that prime numbers serve some type of purpose. what it is? i have no idea

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July 13, 2013, 10:30:35 AM
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One question...

This means that I have a record?

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Which record is that supposed to be for?

Also, see this for the real way to verify you own an address:
If I am not mistaken, Block 12344 contains a notable bi-twin chain.  The origin is 107 digits long and it is a chain of 3 links (i.e. 8 primes).  It is not a world record, but would be 4th on the list of chains of 3 links.  I was the miner of this block and would be willing to demonstrate ownership of the coins.
You can verify you own an address with the signmessage command:
Code:
primecoind signmessage addresshere "Koooooj owns this address"
and posting the address, message, and signature.

(I think you could run that in the debug console too, just omit the primecoind part at the start. Or is there just a UI to this feature? I'm not using the QT client.)
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July 13, 2013, 10:43:41 AM
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Ok...

Is this what I have to send?

Code:
signmessage ANi7JgdfT2HSdTxB8T8sAnVwfDuRFxJeRg "Koooooj owns this address"

H1mJljsMaxVEXbfbnuNACzgVekgqYlEqJr2pljzJU+YfwnaKi35l4Q1+/2bh2iPNND1rA3ID3Jfkz+L5M0oiB70=



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July 13, 2013, 10:48:30 AM
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Ok...

Is this what I have to send?

Code:
signmessage ANi7JgdfT2HSdTxB8T8sAnVwfDuRFxJeRg "Koooooj owns this address"

H1mJljsMaxVEXbfbnuNACzgVekgqYlEqJr2pljzJU+YfwnaKi35l4Q1+/2bh2iPNND1rA3ID3Jfkz+L5M0oiB70=
You probably want to put your own name there. Also, did that address generate a noteworthy block?
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Ok...

Is this what I have to send?

Code:
signmessage ANi7JgdfT2HSdTxB8T8sAnVwfDuRFxJeRg "Koooooj owns this address"

H1mJljsMaxVEXbfbnuNACzgVekgqYlEqJr2pljzJU+YfwnaKi35l4Q1+/2bh2iPNND1rA3ID3Jfkz+L5M0oiB70=
You probably want to put your own name there. Also, did that address generate a noteworthy block?


jajajajajaajaj

OMG... I send it by mistake... I will send another time...  Grin

Code:
signmessage ANi7JgdfT2HSdTxB8T8sAnVwfDuRFxJeRg "Im sorry for previous message... Vingaard owns this Address"

H2nafwsDQCtN95R+y2LJLQ8EEgDZGjAzF6Juz1qut1k9Miqf528N97vIwi0ed5kL7uVrU340Jk1bh/M9Eq3dmAE=


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July 13, 2013, 04:43:00 PM
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according to the trolls in the cryptsy chatbox, primechains are only pseudo mathematics and have no use in the real world, so don't get your hopes up i guess. me i think that prime numbers serve some type of purpose. what it is? i have no idea
Well you'd expect that coming from people who support other coins, as always.. when they don't understand or aren't invested in something they bash and troll it.
Anyways they are usefull for some mathematicians, I belive only a few use such huge primes, that's what I've found out a while ago..


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Code:
signmessage ANi7JgdfT2HSdTxB8T8sAnVwfDuRFxJeRg "Im sorry for previous message... Vingaard owns this Address"

H2nafwsDQCtN95R+y2LJLQ8EEgDZGjAzF6Juz1qut1k9Miqf528N97vIwi0ed5kL7uVrU340Jk1bh/M9Eq3dmAE=
You might want to sign with your real name, if you want to be a record holder rather than a forum username. That's what I would do at-least Wink


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vingaard
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July 13, 2013, 05:11:28 PM
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according to the trolls in the cryptsy chatbox, primechains are only pseudo mathematics and have no use in the real world, so don't get your hopes up i guess. me i think that prime numbers serve some type of purpose. what it is? i have no idea
Well you'd expect that coming from people who support other coins, as always.. when they don't understand or aren't invested in something they bash and troll it.
Anyways they are usefull for some mathematicians, I belive only a few use such huge primes, that's what I've found out a while ago..


jajajajajaajaj

OMG... I send it by mistake... I will send another time...  Grin

Code:
signmessage ANi7JgdfT2HSdTxB8T8sAnVwfDuRFxJeRg "Im sorry for previous message... Vingaard owns this Address"

H2nafwsDQCtN95R+y2LJLQ8EEgDZGjAzF6Juz1qut1k9Miqf528N97vIwi0ed5kL7uVrU340Jk1bh/M9Eq3dmAE=
You might want to sign with your real name, if you want to be a record holder rather than a forum username. That's what I would do at-least Wink

Yeah...

I though that after send my second message, so I sent a third message with my real name (I don't know if I have to put this message in this post as well)...

I'm so sorry for all the inconveniences I have done with this matter... I don't know what happen to me today... I'm usually not so silly... perhaps the meal?  Undecided

Anyway... Have I do anything else?

Thank you


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Koooooj
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July 13, 2013, 06:13:08 PM
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Ok...

Is this what I have to send?

Code:
signmessage ANi7JgdfT2HSdTxB8T8sAnVwfDuRFxJeRg "Koooooj owns this address"

H1mJljsMaxVEXbfbnuNACzgVekgqYlEqJr2pljzJU+YfwnaKi35l4Q1+/2bh2iPNND1rA3ID3Jfkz+L5M0oiB70=



I would like to claim this record as well.  As you can clearly see, I have signed the message stating my ownership.  I... uh.... just logged into my other account, or something.  Wink

In all seriousness, though, congrats on the find!
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