The price of New Blade and Mini Blade was announced by rockxie

[JimiQ84]

Guys? GUYS?

These units draw power a lot. Also they're very much overpriced.. Have you checked competitors (not BFL, BFL is not a competitor) products at all?

There is competitor who sells right now? I mean no pre-order shit, pure selling.

[PuertoLibre]

In english please

New Blade 10 GH - 18.88 BTC
Mini Blase 5 GH - 9.88 BTC

Anyone with roi given 18% difficulty increase?

http://btc.re/?t=miningcalc

<=> Investment return End of the World or Never  

Hilarious! Does that calculator really spit out that result?

[Anduck]

Guys? GUYS?

These units draw power a lot. Also they're very much overpriced.. Have you checked competitors (not BFL, BFL is not a competitor) products at all?

There is competitor who sells right now? I mean no pre-order shit, pure selling.

I don't know but BFSB products are shipping next month.

[yxxyun]

the new blade will delivery at July 20......

[JimiQ84]

Guys? GUYS?

These units draw power a lot. Also they're very much overpriced.. Have you checked competitors (not BFL, BFL is not a competitor) products at all?

There is competitor who sells right now? I mean no pre-order shit, pure selling.

I don't know but BFSB products are probably shipping next month if everything goes well.

FTFY

[Anduck]

Guys? GUYS?

These units draw power a lot. Also they're very much overpriced.. Have you checked competitors (not BFL, BFL is not a competitor) products at all?

There is competitor who sells right now? I mean no pre-order shit, pure selling.

I don't know but BFSB products are probably shipping next month if everything goes well.

FTFY

Haha. They do have PCB design and chips already and it's been tested already, too. And you can mine long time with those boards...

[ShawnP]

In english please

New Blade 10 GH - 18.88 BTC
Mini Blase 5 GH - 9.88 BTC

Anyone with roi given 18% difficulty increase?

https://i.imgur.com/E5DDTNW.png
http://btc.re/?t=miningcalc

<=> Investment return End of the World or Never  

Hilarious! Does that calculator really spit out that result?

Yes, you should try it yourself 

[madmax_ger]

just my 2mBTC of calculation...

http://btcinvest.net/bitcoin-mining-profit-calculator.php?diff=21335329.113983&dcosts=1400&diff_mincrease=40&blpbtc=25&dhsmhs=10000&btcusd_mincrease=10&btcusd=74.60&dpowcon=30&dleadtime=2&pcost=0.25&calcweeks=52&action=calc

Please fix power consumption and diff increasements on your own.
40% / month are more than likely.

compare btc buy-in and mining buy-in results in USD as well as in BTC.

disclaimer: I am AM shareholder and own some UBE soon.

[eve]

how to earn back your roi i wonder?

[PuertoLibre]

just my 2mBTC of calculation...

http://btcinvest.net/bitcoin-mining-profit-calculator.php?diff=21335329.113983&dcosts=1400&diff_mincrease=40&blpbtc=25&dhsmhs=10000&btcusd_mincrease=10&btcusd=74.60&dpowcon=30&dleadtime=2&pcost=0.25&calcweeks=52&action=calc

Please fix power consumption and diff increasements on your own.
40% / month are more than likely.

compare btc buy-in and mining buy-in results in USD as well as in BTC.

disclaimer: I am AM shareholder and own some UBE soon.

There is one critical flaw in that calculator.

The difficulty is increased at 30 day intervals. Even if set at 40% that is not reflective of reality.

If you decrease the interval to 14 days and 20% for that period, you'll see the end number change quite drastically.

I know, because I created an excel sheet to do this. I included the ability to change the period. The frequency of the difficulty change makes a dramatic difference in the overall sum of btc collected over the course of a year.

The calculator is (really good) but it doesn't have a realistic frequency for difficulty changes. So the numbers it gives are drastically different than what it should be.

[innovation]

Because of delivery fee, tax and so on, the price maybe not fixed.

[rograz]

There is competitor who sells right now? I mean no pre-order shit, pure selling.

Does it really matter when they keep lowering their prices faster than their hardware generates coins?

[Bitoy]

In english please

New Blade 10 GH - 18.88 BTC
Mini Blase 5 GH - 9.88 BTC

Anyone with roi given 18% difficulty increase?

http://btc.re/?t=miningcalc

<=> Investment return End of the World or Never  

Thank you. just the calculator I'm looking for 

[DeathAndTaxes]

+18% forever of course.

That 7,300% increase per year.

You guys do realize there is an upper bound for difficulty and that is based on currently available hardware efficiency (MH/$ and MH/%).  Miners won't deploy new hardware when it is unprofitable from day 0.

[goxed]

TLDR It only makes sense to invest spare cash for the BE blade, not cash derived by selling BTC at current prices.

[rammy2k2]

do they say something on the launch date ?

[rograz]

TLDR It only makes sense to invest spare cash for the BE blade, not cash derived by selling BTC at current prices.

Still just better to buy the BTC in that case and wait for them to lower price even further 

[PuertoLibre]

+18% forever of course.

That 7,300% increase per year.

You guys do realize there is an upper bound for difficulty and that is based on currently available hardware efficiency (MH/$ and MH/%).  Miners won't deploy new hardware when it is unprofitable from day 0.

Irony.

This said in a thread where people are buying miners at a loss.

So tell me again why people won't be buying hardware even when it is unprofitable?

[ShawnP]

+18% forever of course.

That 7,300% increase per year.

You guys do realize there is an upper bound for difficulty and that is based on currently available hardware efficiency (MH/$ and MH/%).  Miners won't deploy new hardware when it is unprofitable from day 0.

While difficulty won't increasing forever with 18% average or more, it will definitely be increasing for quite some time.
and by the time difficulty increases will be slowing down, 10Gh blade will be producing only 0.3-0.2BTC per month.
I expect difficulty around 200-300million by the end of the year.

TLDR it only makes some sense to buy with cash and not with Bitcoins as the blade will never return investment in BTC as some blade owners that bought them for 50 BTC are finding out.

[andrewsg]

TLDR it only makes some sense to buy with cash and not with Bitcoins as the blade will never return investment in BTC as some blade owners that bought them for 50 BTC are finding out.

How does that even begin to make sense to anyone? They don't sell for cash, they sell for BTC, so whether you pay in BTC you have, or pay cash for new BTC then pay in BTC it's exactly the same thing. If the blade will never ROI in BTC, how does it matter whether you used $ or BTC - just buy BTC and keep it.

Back to the topic at hand, future diff increases are impossible to predict, but obviously the device is very very unlikely to ROI. What's easier to predict is that morons will buy it anyway.