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July 11, 2013, 08:39:36 AM
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If you have bitcoins to invest, where would you go?
Low risk, high return?

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July 11, 2013, 08:41:31 AM
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I've some coins stored in conlenders... low risk (imo) but low return Smiley

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July 11, 2013, 10:14:55 AM
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I've some coins stored in conlenders... low risk (imo) but low return Smiley

Any other idea?
Eventually, I can find someone myself and get a better rate.

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July 11, 2013, 10:26:30 AM
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You can play the alt market on Cryptsy. Put in buy orders low, when they fill, put a sell order with a 25% markup and repeat. Pick a variety of coins and make sure you are buying low. Will take a bit for the orders to fill sometimes, but you will make an excellent percentage and have some fun while doing it.

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July 11, 2013, 10:30:54 AM
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Maybe buy small amounts of many different mining shares. To many to list but here a few leads :

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=135035.0;all (Havelock exchange thread)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=252531.0;all (AMC thread)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=49840;sa=showPosts (Friedcat's posts)

Will go up and down unlike a CD, but if you're holding BTC it will go up and down anyway.
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July 11, 2013, 12:22:05 PM
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I wouldn't call coinlenders returns low by any means. Really, really high actually.
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July 11, 2013, 12:23:20 PM
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I wouldn't call coinlenders returns low by any means. Really, really high actually.

huh? 1,8% per month is not high, at least in my books.

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July 11, 2013, 12:53:31 PM
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Maybe buy small amounts of many different mining shares. To many to list but here a few leads :

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=135035.0;all (Havelock exchange thread)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=252531.0;all (AMC thread)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=49840;sa=showPosts (Friedcat's posts)

Will go up and down unlike a CD, but if you're holding BTC it will go up and down anyway.


But how to know if it's a scam or legit company. Ponzi or not?
And if the owner is trusted or not?

Sad

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July 11, 2013, 02:41:30 PM
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An annual interest rate of 27.25% isn't a lot to you? Do you live in Zimbabwe?
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July 11, 2013, 02:59:27 PM
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Having interest rates that high is unheard of in most of the world because banks keep the interest rates artificially low to try and make people borrow instead, yeah, anything above 1% is extremely high because most western countries have the interest rates almost at 0%, that said I can understand wanting more, but I always believe there's no such thing as a low risk/high return investment, not unless you're rich anyway but that's just compound interest at work.
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July 11, 2013, 03:05:28 PM
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Its just that Favdesu's comment was really weird.

"huh? 1,8% per month is not high, at least in my books."

I'd really like to meet your broker then.
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July 11, 2013, 03:09:16 PM
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Maybe buy small amounts of many different mining shares. To many to list but here a few leads :

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=135035.0;all (Havelock exchange thread)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=252531.0;all (AMC thread)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=49840;sa=showPosts (Friedcat's posts)

Will go up and down unlike a CD, but if you're holding BTC it will go up and down anyway.


But how to know if it's a scam or legit company. Ponzi or not?
And if the owner is trusted or not?

Sad

Not an easy task, if you are new to all this.
Basically you have to look at the owner's history, how he acts and what his plans are.

My personal impression:
Friedcat from Asicminer is one of the most trusted persons of all Bitcoin businesses, he has already paid way more to his shareholders than he collected (it was 0.1 Btc/share) and his company is a huge success. I don't know if the shares are still a good investment at the current price of 4 Btc+, but it is possible. You can buy those shares as direct shares, or as Passthrough at Havelock Investments, bitfunder.com or btct.co
All 3 sites are established and trustworthy imo, but I trust btct.co the most.

I would be careful about AMC, there was a lot of hickup about the companies structure and business plans.
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July 11, 2013, 03:11:10 PM
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Not an easy task, if you are new to all this.
Basically you have to look at the owner's history, how he acts and what his plans are.

My personal impression:
Friedcat from Asicminer is one of the most trusted persons of all Bitcoin businesses, he has already paid way more to his shareholders than he collected (it was 0.1 Btc/share) and his company is a huge success. I don't know if the shares are still a good investment at the current price of 4 Btc+, but it is possible. You can buy those shares as direct shares, or as Passthrough at Havelock Investments, bitfunder.com or btct.co
All 3 sites are established and trustworthy imo, but I trust btct.co the most.

I would be careful about AMC, there was a lot of hickup about the companies structure and business plans.

Thank you birdy.
I was thinking about investing in Just-dice.com.
What do you think about them?

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July 11, 2013, 03:26:35 PM
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Thank you birdy.
I was thinking about investing in Just-dice.com.
What do you think about them?

From what I've seen also quite trustworthy.
The site gives clear information and I did test it with a small amount of BTC and had no problems withdrawing.
The busniness model is likely to work, giving a very low house edge for gamblers and the owner is a quite respected member in this community.
I am a bit worried that the giant pot of BTC displayed for everyone might attract hackers, so before investing a bigger sum there I would try to find out whether or not a lot of it is stored in a safe place.
Also while chances are better to get a return on your investment, there is a chance that someone gets a lucky strike and half of the investment is gone.
Especially if some people bet a lot of money with high chances in very few bets like 500 Btc with 90% win chance (if they lose it instead, you will make a big gain though ^^).
But I guess the bank always win in the long run, so it's probably not a bad investment.
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July 11, 2013, 03:36:39 PM
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If you have bitcoins to invest, where would you go?
Low risk, high return?

low risk, high return? world doesnt run like that

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July 11, 2013, 03:40:02 PM
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Maybe buy small amounts of many different mining shares. To many to list but here a few leads :

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=135035.0;all (Havelock exchange thread)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=252531.0;all (AMC thread)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=49840;sa=showPosts (Friedcat's posts)

Will go up and down unlike a CD, but if you're holding BTC it will go up and down anyway.


But how to know if it's a scam or legit company. Ponzi or not?
And if the owner is trusted or not?

Sad

Not an easy task, if you are new to all this.
Basically you have to look at the owner's history, how he acts and what his plans are.

My personal impression:
Friedcat from Asicminer is one of the most trusted persons of all Bitcoin businesses, he has already paid way more to his shareholders than he collected (it was 0.1 Btc/share) and his company is a huge success. I don't know if the shares are still a good investment at the current price of 4 Btc+, but it is possible. You can buy those shares as direct shares, or as Passthrough at Havelock Investments, bitfunder.com or btct.co
All 3 sites are established and trustworthy imo, but I trust btct.co the most.

I would be careful about AMC, there was a lot of hickup about the companies structure and business plans.

As they say - low risk high return does not normally work.
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July 11, 2013, 03:43:13 PM
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The consider it as "lower possible risk" and "higher possible return" or "best ratio"  Roll Eyes

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July 11, 2013, 03:44:47 PM
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Also there is still a risk in any investment, but if you are able to avoid all clear scams and ponzi's you are already on a good way to make some profit Smiley
I would still store a part of my Bitcoins somewhere safe and not invest them all, also think about increasing the safe part after making some profit.
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July 11, 2013, 04:21:50 PM
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I've some coins stored in conlenders... low risk (imo) but low return Smiley

I just wanted to open an account and deposit a few BTC there (just for fun, because I have a lot of them), I went through all the hassle of setting up an account and activated 2fa which took me quite some time (because initially I had a typo in my email address and could not change the address without first receiving an email to that wrong address, so I needed to make another account) with all needed password and 2FA key setup and backup only to be told that I cannot deposit bitcoins at coinlenders without first also sponsoring their friends at inputs.io who seem to have an even more ridiculous signup procedure with even more unreadable captchas and a mysterious self chosen PIN instead of a proper 2FA (which is not even checked when logging in!) and at this point (15 minutes later) I was fed up with that crap and decided to keep my bitcoins for myself.

If they want my bitcoins then they should get rid of that forced online wallet bullshit, investors with a lot of money usually don't want to be forced to sign up with some crappy web-wallet service only to transfer some of their coins from A to B, they usually want to use their own wallet.

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July 12, 2013, 07:55:45 PM
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ltc is good for invest
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