[XPM] BFGMiner Branch.. on github

[RustyShackleford1950]

Sounds like this crowd is showing their true colours....
Thanks for confirming my suspicions.

And no, getwork won't work. It's been deprecated for a long time before Primecoin was even announced, I don't know why Sunny included it or why people expect it to work.
GBT, on the other hand, works fine without primecoind modification.

You have yet to explain why you believe primecoin is a scam. I am not here to argue with anyone, but you have no sound reasoning at this time. Unless you are just very nonchalantly trolling 

Except all the times I already explained why in the main Primecoin thread.

This is the quote that he's referring to, I imagine:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=252664.msg2708777#msg2708777

Now, while some fair points are raised, you are a complete ass about it Luke, and your unrelenting bias and support of Tonal Bitcoin is, to most people, just bizarre.

Now, what you've listed is other cryptocurrencies that work on different methods than bitcoin (except tonal), now, I agree on namecoin, and ppcoin, both are interesting. I don't think ppcoin will take off, but I think the idea behind it is good, and solid. Your accusation that it's a scamcoin though, and by extension, sunny king is a scammer, is just too retarded for words. Sunny King has a reputation as an extremely helpful, and often selfless dev in the community. You have a reputation as a selfish, rude, abrasiveness, and odd person, who is a constant source of conflict.

Honestly, what you're saying is not so much a problem, most people would be happy to discuss things, but you're such an arsehole about it all, and I think the only reason the community tolerates you is that you're providing a necessary service with certain miners.

Primecoin does have an interesting new property, that of possible real world value. Now, I'm not saying that primecoin will take off, but developers like Sunny King are the ones paving the way, and forging ahead with new ideas. You're not. You are not contributing in any beneficial way. If sunny king continues and produces a new system that does provide a beneficial outcome as a byproduct of security of the network, that is only a good thing. Bitcoins SHA is a waste, and we are all aware of it.

[Luke-Jr]

You have a reputation as a selfish, rude, abrasiveness, and odd person, who is a constant source of conflict.

You seem a bit confused here.
This forum is not the community.
It is a nest of trolls that the community only barely interacts with as necessary.

My reputation is quite well in the Bitcoin community.
Trolls and scammers may hate me, but I'm fine with that.

[achillez]

Heh Luke-Jr has a good point there. The forums do have their fair share of trolls  

Anyways, onto a more positive topic. Has anyone successfully received some blocks with bfgminer yet? I just kicked off a couple more instances with it to see what will happen.

[RustyShackleford1950]

You have a reputation as a selfish, rude, abrasiveness, and odd person, who is a constant source of conflict.

You seem a bit confused here.
This forum is not the community.
It is a nest of trolls that the community only barely interacts with as necessary.

My reputation is quite well in the Bitcoin community.
Trolls and scammers may hate me, but I'm fine with that.

True, this forum is full of trolls, but your reputation is well known in the wider community. I think my point stands. I'm not saying that your work isn't good, I'm saying that your personality is abrasiveness, and you cause conflict.

[gateway]

Guys wtf, stay on topic I see so many good potential threads started to only get hijacked.  This was about looking into bfgminer branch to see if developers wanted to work on improving it for mining prime coins .. Stop the nonsense ...

[RustyShackleford1950]

Guys wtf, stay on topic I see so many good potential threads started to only get hijacked.  This was about looking into bfgminer branch to see if developers wanted to work on improving it for mining prime coins .. Stop the nonsense ...

I'm sorry, but we're having a relavent and civil discussion about the author of the subject of the topic at hand. We're discussing previous comments made by that author. And honestly, as webmaster of eligius, your conflict of interest and arrangement with luke-jr are really transparent (or at least they are to me, I doubt most of the community is aware of the long and messy history).

You're not a white knight trying to get the topic back on track. You're a biased party with potential losses should problems occur.

I'll try and stop here, and say that's all I have to say on the matter.

[gateway]

Guys wtf, stay on topic I see so many good potential threads started to only get hijacked.  This was about looking into bfgminer branch to see if developers wanted to work on improving it for mining prime coins .. Stop the nonsense ...

I'm sorry, but we're having a relavent and civil discussion about the author of the subject of the topic at hand. We're discussing previous comments made by that author. And honestly, as webmaster of eligius, your conflict of interest and arrangement with luke-jr are really transparent (or at least they are to me, I doubt most of the community is aware of the long and messy history).

You're not a white knight trying to get the topic back on track. You're a biased party with potential losses should problems occur.

I'll try and stop here, and say that's all I have to say on the matter.

Thanks now let's get back to business!

[Luckybit]

I did not publish this for people to use, but rather for developers to play with.
It is not production-quality code, and without understanding the code you probably will not be able to get it working.

Since it is also only used by a probable-scamcoin at this point, I'd also like to express my preference that others not encourage/help non-developers use it for now, outside of improving the code/documentation in git.
(However, to be clear, I will also not hold any grudge or hard feelings against those who do.)

If any developers wish to work with or improve the code, perhaps even clean it up sufficient for merging into mainline BFGMiner, that is another matter entirely: I am more than willing to help/collaborate on this (but do expect me to ignore you if your questions suggest to me that you don't know the first thing about development!).

Why do you think Primecoin is a scamcoin?

Because it's not Bitcoin and he's Luke Jr.

[shinkicker]

I did not get anywhere at all, but it was a good bit of exposure for me on the bfgminer code. I was the other 'luke' on IRC.

So, to me it looks like the way forward is that primecoind clearly needs an API:

Sunny:

Client node has no API support yet. Feel free to propose an API format for e.g. getwork.

Luke-jr:

And no, getwork won't work. It's been deprecated for a long time before Primecoin was even announced, I don't know why Sunny included it or why people expect it to work. GBT, on the other hand, works fine without primecoind modification.

I checked on what Luke-jr has said and sure enough getwork has been depreciated and is now supersceded by GBT

So we need https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Getblocktemplate

BFGminer already has GBT support with libblkmaker etc as does cgminer. If we get primcoind supporting GBT we have to major mining apps on board.

So the part that I don't now understand (Question for Sunny perhaps), considering he forked about 3 months ago and GBT was introduced last year, then the API must already be there and just needs exposing?

[Luckybit]

You have a reputation as a selfish, rude, abrasiveness, and odd person, who is a constant source of conflict.

You seem a bit confused here.
This forum is not the community.
It is a nest of trolls that the community only barely interacts with as necessary.

My reputation is quite well in the Bitcoin community.
Trolls and scammers may hate me, but I'm fine with that.

This forum is part of the community whether you like it or not. Your attitude towards alt-cryptocurrencies is not welcome as it does not help anything. If you care about what Bitcoin is trying to do as a technology then you recognize alt-currencies can only help make it happen. Bitcoin is high profile with a bad reputation and if you're not about centralized power then you would want alt-currencies to compete in an eco-system with Bitcoin to keep Bitcoiners honest and to diminish the power acquired by the Bitcoin elite.

Each coin should give people a chance to make money and try new ideas. Primecoin does try a new idea and will make people money. A scamcoin does not try a new idea and does not make money.

[paulthetafy]

Hey guys, I don't have this working either as I've only just started looking at it.  But when I run i don't get the top summary display and menu options and it doesn't respond to menu input either.  I 've not encountered this before, any ideas?

[shinkicker]

Hi All,

I will start a new thread so we can keep focused on miner support. That seems more fair then me asking everyone else to move out

Regards,
shin

[paulthetafy]

Hey guys, I don't have this working either as I've only just started looking at it.  But when I run i don't get the top summary display and menu options and it doesn't respond to menu input either.  I 've not encountered this before, any ideas?

Don't worry, didn't have ncurses library installed!  doh!

[shinkicker]

Started a new thread to try and focus what we need to do.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=254827.0

[paulthetafy]

Is anyone still plugging away at the existing code?  I'm trying to find ways around the lack of GetBlockTemplate support in primecoind and failing.

Luke-jr, presumably you had a working solution in place (actually having blocks accepted)?  If so, I'm assuming you don't want to share that because the prime branch is incomplete?

[kendog77]

Luke-Jr said this, which implies that primecoind supports GBT, and that's where I get lost:

"And no, getwork won't work. It's been deprecated for a long time before Primecoin was even announced, I don't know why Sunny included it or why people expect it to work.
GBT, on the other hand, works fine without primecoind modification."

I know BFGMiner supports GBT, so that's not an issue, but getwork seems to be used when solo mining.

[paulthetafy]

Luke-Jr said this, which implies that primecoind supports GBT, and that's where I get lost:

"And no, getwork won't work. It's been deprecated for a long time before Primecoin was even announced, I don't know why Sunny included it or why people expect it to work.
GBT, on the other hand, works fine without primecoind modification."

I know BFGMiner supports GBT, so that's not an issue, but getwork seems to be used when solo mining.

Yep that's where I've just got to.  I checked the primcoind source and GBT does appear to be supported, so there's something else missing that is stopping BFGminer using GBT.  I'll keep looking

[discopete]

does anybody have any accepted blocks using this branch? or am i just being extremely unlucky
i've got it on a couple of x5520 xeons (i7 equiv) and nothing in 24 hours

[paulthetafy]

does anybody have any accepted blocks using this branch? or am i just being extremely unlucky
i've got it on a couple of x5520 xeons (i7 equiv) and nothing in 24 hours

This code isn't working "as-is". We are still trying to figure out how to get it working.

[Joe_Bauers]

This code isn't working "as-is". We are still trying to figure out how to get it working.

GBT, on the other hand, works fine without primecoind modification.