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July 14, 2013, 04:52:49 AM |
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These 0.001 BTC transactions indeed randomly restore traceability of transactions once they are spent, regardless of the real motivation of the sender. Not very nice.
And given the number of transactions that have already spent these 0.001, it is apparently working well.
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1PFYcabWEwZFm2Ez5LGTx3ftz (OP)
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July 14, 2013, 05:05:01 AM Last edit: July 14, 2013, 06:09:44 AM by 1PFYcabWEwZFm2Ez5LGTx3ftz |
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Dude, seriously? You are one paranoid guy, earlier you thought somebody who needed their wallet password bruteforced was trying to start a media scare, and now this?
People come here all the time with wallets that need bruteforcing or to ask about money they randomly received, they're two very common threads, use the search or just browse the forum and you'll see.
Damn dude whats wrong with you? Take your meds.
Actually, I was RIGHT. Look at this message from "binaryFate" https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=254422.20: "For everyone to know: acs26 just replied to my PM, giving me a link to download is wallet.dat. Which happends to be only a windows executable starting with "wallet.dat". You propose to help and then... Sad As a side note to you acs26, you're really dumb trying to trick someone like that. Because when claiming you have such technical problems, you have significant chances to reach somebody not using windows (I'm on linux and don't care about your .exe), and anyway very significant chance that the person is not a moron as you might expect." So, I was right when I warned everyone that it was a fake post, and that the poster had some sinister agenda.
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blockgenesis
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July 14, 2013, 05:06:07 AM |
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1PFYcabWEwZFm2Ez5LGTx3ftz (OP)
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July 14, 2013, 05:16:04 AM Last edit: July 14, 2013, 06:04:29 AM by 1PFYcabWEwZFm2Ez5LGTx3ftz |
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I sent you $80 USD to your address. Now be less crazy.
If it was $800 or $8000 then you may have a point. $80 for 1000 addresses is 8 cents per address.
1. I was right (read two posts above) about a guy asking for his wallet to be "brute-forced" having a sinister agenda (while many called me crazy and paranoid... well, who is the "crazy" one now?). 2. Why in the world would you pay me 80 USD just to get me to stop talking? It is reasonable to believe, that you have an agenda too. 3. You said that "If it was $800 or $8000 then you may have a point."... well, user "keystroke" confirmed that he/she received 0.001BTC in a similar transaction, but it was a different transaction than the one in which I received it, that means there are MANY such transactions, and that means that it IS $800 or $8000 or even more spent, and that means that even YOU agree that I DO have a point.
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July 14, 2013, 11:31:45 AM |
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he is welcome
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July 14, 2013, 04:33:52 PM |
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I sent you $80 USD to your address. Now be less crazy.
If it was $800 or $8000 then you may have a point. $80 for 1000 addresses is 8 cents per address.
1. I was right (read two posts above) about a guy asking for his wallet to be "brute-forced" having a sinister agenda (while many called me crazy and paranoid... well, who is the "crazy" one now?). 2. Why in the world would you pay me 80 USD just to get me to stop talking? It is reasonable to believe, that you have an agenda too. 3. You said that "If it was $800 or $8000 then you may have a point."... well, user "keystroke" confirmed that he/she received 0.001BTC in a similar transaction, but it was a different transaction than the one in which I received it, that means there are MANY such transactions, and that means that it IS $800 or $8000 or even more spent, and that means that even YOU agree that I DO have a point. Dude, TradeFortress is a suspected criminal actor: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=256008.0
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July 15, 2013, 08:32:29 AM |
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Actually, re-thinking the de-anonymization attack theory, 0.001 BTC would actually need to be sent to addresses that have already spent bitcoins in order to restore traceability of transactions. If no transaction happened from that address, then there is nothing to de-anonymize. So far, all Bitcoin addresses receiving 0.001 BTC that I have looked seems to have never sent any bitcoins. So, unless I'm missing something, it's probably not meant to be used for network analysis. But this could have been the case.
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AliceWonder
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July 15, 2013, 08:40:10 AM |
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Dude, seriously? You are one paranoid guy, earlier you thought somebody who needed their wallet password bruteforced was trying to start a media scare, and now this?
People come here all the time with wallets that need bruteforcing or to ask about money they randomly received, they're two very common threads, use the search or just browse the forum and you'll see.
Damn dude whats wrong with you? Take your meds.
Actually, I was RIGHT. Look at this message from "binaryFate" https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=254422.20: "For everyone to know: acs26 just replied to my PM, giving me a link to download is wallet.dat. Which happends to be only a windows executable starting with "wallet.dat".So, I was right when I warned everyone that it was a fake post, and that the poster had some sinister agenda.I can confirm, I got that same PM but I just ignored it.
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AliceWonder
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July 15, 2013, 08:44:38 AM |
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I'm not fond of his lending service, I think that it is dangerous, but that's just a difference of opinion. He's a little harsh sometimes but I suspect he's a straight-up guy. Some people don't like him because he was kind enough to use his own funds to spread the truth about ripple - in a way that some consider astro-turfing. But he's right about ripple and I'm glad that message was spread. And for the record, I've not received anything from him, this post is not bought.
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🏰 TradeFortress 🏰
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July 15, 2013, 10:26:43 AM |
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FYI, you can say Viceroy aka buyer is bought.
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July 15, 2013, 03:00:26 PM |
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You mean you think someone pays me to call out criminal actors? Tell me TF, why would any legitimate person who is not a criminal need to "wash" their bitcoins? But don't do it here, come to my thread and defend yourself like a real man. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=256008.0
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July 18, 2013, 02:13:57 AM |
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Dude, seriously? You are one paranoid guy, earlier you thought somebody who needed their wallet password bruteforced was trying to start a media scare, and now this?
This happens all the time, anyone can send anyone BTC for any reason, scripts go haywire, people copy & paste the wrong address, people send money "for lulz" and as someone else pointed out, to probe addresses to see if their alive, or to see if they spend that BTC in a joint transaction so that they can see other addresses that the person owns.
People come here all the time with wallets that need bruteforcing or to ask about money they randomly received, they're two very common threads, use the search or just browse the forum and you'll see.
Damn dude whats wrong with you? Take your meds.
Better to be paranoid, than an idiot. So your hypothesis is, that someone sent 0.001 BTC * 1000 = 1 BTC = ~80 USD to random strangers just "for lulz". Seriously? SERIOUSLY? The hypothesis that it was done to probe and track addresses actually makes a lot of sense, but it is also scary, because if that is true, then it means that someone is willing to spend ~80 USD just to be able to potentially track ~1000 of bitcoin addresses. Am I paranoid, for pointing out, that even the ddos of mtgox was called "Bitcoin was hacked" in mass-media? Am I paranoid, for pointing out, how much FUD and anti-bitcoin propaganda is in mass-media? Am I paranoid, for believing, that since mass-media loves spreading anti-bitcoin propaganda, and has called ddos of one bitcoin exchange as "Bitcoin hacking", that they will also call bruteforcing of a bitcoin wallet as "Bitcoin hacking"? Someone tipped over $4000 on reddit, in one tip. So yes, really.
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