Devil worshipers cult Illuminati (Bilderberg Group) teaching little kids sex

[foggyb]

Cite your sources.

Claims, findings, and sources.
http://advocatesforyouth.org/publications/409

Whatever.

I know from personal experience that abstinence education with minimal sex education (at school) does work with a high rate of success.

If the parents aren't on board, any school education program you can care to name will have a lower success rate.

The other problem is that the idea of abstinence is a Christian ideal. If you don't teach the core values of Christianity alongside abstinence, well of course the abstinence education isn't going to work.  It makes no sense to teach abstinence alongside moral relativism.

Kent Hovind once said he would be happy to debate whether or not sex education should be taught in public schools. "But you're asking the wrong question, the real question is, 'should we have public schools'".

[Rassah]

Claims, findings, and sources.
http://advocatesforyouth.org/publications/409

Whatever.

Thank you for taking as much time to look at and consider the information I provided, as it took me to Google for it 

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I know from personal experience that abstinence education with minimal sex education (at school) does work with a high rate of success.

If the parents aren't on board, any school education program you can care to name will have a lower success rate.

The other problem is that the idea of abstinence is a Christian ideal. If you don't teach the core values of Christianity alongside abstinence, well of course the abstinence education isn't going to work.  It makes no sense to teach abstinence alongside moral relativism.
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Personal experience, huh. You actually went to a whole bunch of schools, asked the kids to have sex with you, and was told "no?" I can't imagine what kind of personal experience you might be talking about.

Those sources I provided show some incredible amount of irony BTW. Statistics across the entire country show that places typically associated with good Christian values (such as southern states) that teach abstinence, have WAY higher instances of underage sex, unprotected sex, and teenage pregnancies, than the godless states that teach comprehensive sex education. Even in cases where abstinence states have stay-at-home soccer moms, and sex-ed states have working mom's.

Care to offer an opinion as to why that may be?

[foggyb]

Maybe you should get out more, Rassah. The bible belt of the USA is not the only place on planet earth where Christians teach abstinence to their kids.

Of course I will trust personal experience over a study that google found for you. As would any reasonable person. If a study shows that one group is getting good results, and the other group isn't, the group that isn't should be examined for anomalies and the strategies, objectives and outcomes compared. This way, we could clearly see where the FAILURE GROUP IS GOING WRONG. That would be scientific, and produce useful data. To automatically assume that one data point proves everything, is not scientific, its just pushing an agenda.

Again, moral relativism and Christianity don't mix. Take these kids out of public schools where they teach them that life is meaningless, and your data point will be turned on its ass. With Christianity, abstinence has a reason besides the prevention of rashes and single mothers.

Christ teaches "Do not conform to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind" That is a fitting indictment of the state of free public education in the West.

The joke is on you by showing that lax morals degrades good character and sound reasoning. You wish your reasoning to be taken seriously, then you joke about sex with kids? Fail.

[jnagyjr]

The difference between abstinence education and "regular" sex ed should be that in abstinence education the CHILDREN are encouraged to wait until marriage. 

Do people still do that?   Wait until marriage?  I thought that went out last century.  Maybe we should bring back chastity belts and such.

I guess we should throw out monogamy and sterilize everyone (therefore ending the abortion debate, too), huh? Just because you don't like abstinence or think waiting to have sex until marriage is old fashioned doesn't mean they are.

There's nothing wrong with fisting if you think your fist was designed to fit into whatever orifice you are trying to shove it. However, since human sexual organs were made to compliment each other (and not random objects and body parts) there is quite a bit wrong with it.

Not the "X wasn't supposed to do that and so therefore it's wrong" argument.      

I suppose you think there's something wrong with homosexuality too?   
 
Do you own a bible?

Well, it's a valid argument. The penis was meant to penetrate the vagina for both pleasure and reproduction in the manner in which it was created.

Well yes, there is. Aside from the moral turpitude it demonstrates, forcing the penis into the anus sets up both people for health concerns. Any harmful bacteria that may be fomenting in the anus before or after excretion gets attached to the penis and passed on to the next partner and the individual whose penis is  involved, it can cause a dangerous tearing of the lining of the anus (which is only cells-thick) which would allow the introduction of those bacteria into the bloodstream of the person whose anus is being penetrated. What about it is 'good' or even 'decent'? Is it moral to possibly infect a future partner with some disease just for a moment of pleasure? I think not.

I own several, as a matter of fact. Have you even paid attention, though, to my sidebar info or my sig? I imagine not given the question (whether or not rhetorical).

[Charm Quark]

. The penis was meant to penetrate the vagina for both pleasure and reproduction in the manner in which it was created.

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you should write a peom about this

[Rassah]

To automatically assume that one data point proves everything, is not scientific, its just pushing an agenda.

Um, when you say "one data point," which one of these were you talking about?

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