Hemlis is not good

[Jaxkr]

I've written a blog post detailing the problems I have with Hemlis. In a nutshell, it's centralized, closed source, and requires trust.
You can read it at http://blog.frog.li/blog/2013/07/11/hemlis-is-not-that-great/

What are your opinions on the upcoming service?

[Mike Christ]

My first and only opinion is, "What's Hemlis?"

[Jaxkr]

My first and only opinion is, "What's Hemlis?"

Oh. It's an upcoming encrypted messaging service. https://heml.is/

[Mike Christ]

Ahh okay I see what this is.  Well, so long as only the sender and recipient can read the messages, thanks to encryption, then it should follow that not even the servers can hold any relevant data as to what is being said back and forth, other than the fact that two people are using encryption.  For example, I'm using Jitsi with encryption right now, with gtalk, and though my messages are stored on google's servers, they're stored like this:

?OTR: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.

I have no idea if someone can figure out what that says but hopefully not.  But anyway, the only difference, it seems, between Hemlis and the popular WhatsApp is who's running the show.  So you still have to trust TPB guys that they'll remain angels forever, which I suppose can be seen as an improvement over WhatsApp inc (who lacks the history TPB has), but it's still basically a rehash of the same thing.

I guess I'll try it out anyway, whenever it's available.  It certainly looks appealing.

[Deepweb]

Dont really understand why they need 100k+ to develope something like gibberbot + jabber servers which works well and is 100% secure.

[wolverine.ks]

if it ain't open source, it ain't shit.

with that said, I still use closed source all the time, sigh......

[Jaxkr]

Dont really understand why they need 100k+ to develope something like gibberbot + jabber servers which works well and is 100% secure.

I don't understand that either. Seems like a big waste.

[hany103]

What is Hemlis ?!

[Jaxkr]

What is Hemlis ?!

Sorry. I have now covered this in the article.

[Gabi]

Just use skype/facebook and send only encrypted messages, problem solved.

[bbit]

Stupid it is.

[Jaxkr]

Stupid it is.

Yep. It's nothing new.

So how about that Ouya?