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December 09, 2017, 01:45:21 PM
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Do not #HODL go #INWEST support start-ups

Only investment is healthy and makes any asset useful

This is true for $, gold, bitcoin or any other asset, fiat, basis coin

HODLing under mattress in hope that speculations will make you rich is nonsense killing the economic and technical progress

USE it or you will LOSE it

#Bitcoin HODLer nowadays look like old people holding their assets under the mattress instead of investing into crypto currency world.

Even if somebody decides to go #INWEST into something new #hodlers starting a shitstorm, because these cocky shitless pensioners simply scared to lose without understanding what all crypto technologies are about.

Imagine what we can reach with current 200 Billion Market capital if at least 10% of it will be on USE #INWESTed into different projects changing the world.

I am really upset to see how bitcoin is becaming just another shity speculation object of wall street - they are all alteady preparing their "future" trading, frequent trading, margin trading instruments to enter the crypto world and SPOIL it, like it is in money market going on: only speculation and no any interest on where you invest and why.

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December 09, 2017, 01:51:14 PM
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To invest bitcoin in the economy is not profitable until it reaches your maximum price. The growth rate of bitcoin is many times higher than the growth rate of the economy. As for the attempts of major American exchanges to seize control of bitcoin through the futures I don't believe it. It is not beneficial to the bitcoin community and so they will not find customers.
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December 09, 2017, 02:13:51 PM
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To invest bitcoin in the economy is not profitable until it reaches your maximum price. The growth rate of bitcoin is many times higher than the growth rate of the economy. As for the attempts of major American exchanges to seize control of bitcoin through the futures I don't believe it. It is not beneficial to the bitcoin community and so they will not find customers.

You can' invest bitcin into real economy - for that you need to exchange it into $ or other fiat.

I am talking about crypto economy, alternative coins ICOs and crypto start-up going to change the world with new technologies

You can directly buy the alternatives with better technologies, less fees and faster transaction new visions

#INWEST into Crypto start-up projects changing the world

Wall street speculators will start trading $btc soon and will make from bitcoin another shity speculation object if not already done, because 0.5% of Adresses own more than 90% bitcoins.

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December 09, 2017, 02:24:25 PM
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To invest bitcoin in the economy is not profitable until it reaches your maximum price. The growth rate of bitcoin is many times higher than the growth rate of the economy. As for the attempts of major American exchanges to seize control of bitcoin through the futures I don't believe it. It is not beneficial to the bitcoin community and so they will not find customers.

You can' invest bitcin into real economy - for that you need to exchange it into $ or other fiat.

I am talking about crypto economy, alternative coins ICOs and crypto start-up going to change the world with new technologies

You can directly buy the alternatives with better technologies, less fees and faster transaction new visions

#INWEST into Crypto start-up projects changing the world

Wall street speculators will start trading $btc soon and will make from bitcoin another shity speculation object if not already done, because 0.5% of Adresses own more than 90% bitcoins.

This!

But i guess investing is a nice thing too today.
Right now is the time to play a little with the money you got..ICOs for example got two huge advantages..first its a good way to make profit if done right and second its helping people found their projects.
There are good and trustworthy projects up and probably there will be much and much and much more in the future.

Just go as sure as you can, that you give your money only to people that deserve your trust.


Holding is nice..but why not play around with some % of your latest "profits" through the bitcoin-rise?
It helps, is fun and most of all you can learn about markets.
Dont get me wrong..you might lose what you got, but thats included in learning.
Investing is healthy for crypto-markets and ICOs.

And at this time..even private people with no market-connections can participate in this..that might change in the following years. As - it was already said -the big financial market (stocks, fiat etc.) slowly gets into BTC.
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December 09, 2017, 02:56:22 PM
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I see the right seed in your thoughts. But it seems like the problem is in the infrastructure for the crypto investments. We already had an ICO boom that also can be concidered as a bubble where people mindlessly threw their money into every ICO. Most of those ICOs are not able to perform as they planned in their roadmap (or their project is just don't worth the gathered money). We desperately need more legit and worthy projects to make this environment healthy. And it is not just 1, 2 or 3 projects.
But your thoughts are generaly right.  Those hodled bitcoins are not realy usefull for the general situation and when the price reach the good point those hodlers can only dump it making the BTC volatility even stronger.
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December 09, 2017, 03:04:34 PM
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Do not #HODL go #INWEST support start-ups

"INWEST"? What does that mean? Do you mean Invest? As in short for Investment?

Investing in Bitcoin is the same has holding Bitcoin. If you're investing in startups you're not directly investing in Bitcoin. And Bitcoin has gone up in value more than an investment in a start up this year!

I'd be keeping my coin in Bitcoin, let the start ups earn income through their operations or direct investment from their founders.

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December 09, 2017, 03:07:04 PM
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Investing is hodling for me. Ther eis no difference for me .
I hodl crypto coins and this is a way for investing.

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December 09, 2017, 03:51:48 PM
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#Bitcoin HODLer nowadays look like old people holding their assets under the mattress instead of investing into crypto currency world.
Be patient friend, assets under this mattress will be used as soon as the Bitcoin holder is bored with hard fork and saturation in the Bitcoin market I think it will happen in 2018
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December 09, 2017, 04:07:06 PM
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You speak as if bitcoin is a company and people need to invest for it to succeed. People can profit greatly holding bitcoin, as we've already seen, the only thing that can hurt them is if they hold too long, but that is the same with an investment, you can leave it too long and eventually it goes bad.

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December 09, 2017, 05:01:09 PM
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Do not #HODL go #INWEST support start-ups

Only investment is healthy and makes any asset useful

This is true for $, gold, bitcoin or any other asset, fiat, basis coin

HODLing under mattress in hope that speculations will make you rich is nonsense killing the economic and technical progress

USE it or you will LOSE it

#Bitcoin HODLer nowadays look like old people holding their assets under the mattress instead of investing into crypto currency world.

Even if somebody decides to go #INWEST into something new #hodlers starting a shitstorm, because these cocky shitless pensioners simply scared to lose without understanding what all crypto technologies are about.

Imagine what we can reach with current 200 Billion Market capital if at least 10% of it will be on USE #INWESTed into different projects changing the world.

I am really upset to see how bitcoin is becaming just another shity speculation object of wall street - they are all alteady preparing their "future" trading, frequent trading, margin trading instruments to enter the crypto world and SPOIL it, like it is in money market going on: only speculation and no any interest on where you invest and why.

Agreed. It's getting annoying that everyone simply recommends others to keep holding their coins. That is literally creating a bubble.
Investing is a way better option. You're supposed to invest in things you believe in, not to HODL trash you think could grow in value soon. That's just a really stupid attitude.

For some reason, people blindly invest, hoping to make a lot of money, whilst they forget that they should try to think for themselves a bit as well.
A lot of people who own Bitcoins, don't even know what it's for exactly. They just think "It has a limited supply, so its price can only go up in the long-term". That's what they're told and that's the only thing they know, sadly.

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December 09, 2017, 05:06:41 PM
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I am also into other projects especially new ICOs that I believe got the potential to survive and grow under the very competitive environment we are in right now. You see, last year when I started investing in new ICOs I was then so blind assuming that ICOs will really be growing then I realized that it is not true with all the projects I chose. Some made it and many do not and out of those who made it the growth is not comparable to just hodling the Bitcoin. That was then discouraging.


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December 09, 2017, 05:13:20 PM
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Idk if trolling or not but the message is clear yet you can't force people to just invest their money into something they don't fully understand. Shelling some money for bitcoin is already a huge leap, how about using that bitcoin to invest into other ventures that could make you more money? Some dudes just can't wrap it around their heads and think that it's okay to just have their bitcoins safe in their bedside. It's true that they're getting something from it, but the question is are they really helping bitcoin to progress in some way by just letting their coins rot in their wallets?

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December 09, 2017, 05:34:53 PM
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Why would you tell people to spend their Bitcoin right before the launch of Bitcoin Futures?. The last thing we should do is go into 'selling' mode or 'investment mode', otherwise, the price will plummet at light speed.
But I doubt anyone would get persuaded into selling their coins, or spend their btc investing in god knows what, especially now when the price is going down.
Let people do whatever they want with their btc, eventually, those holding btc will spend their coins so, no need to panic.

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December 09, 2017, 07:46:17 PM
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Do not #HODL go #INWEST support start-ups

"INWEST"? What does that mean? Do you mean Invest? As in short for Investment?

Investing in Bitcoin is the same has holding Bitcoin. If you're investing in startups you're not directly investing in Bitcoin. And Bitcoin has gone up in value more than an investment in a start up this year!

I'd be keeping my coin in Bitcoin, let the start ups earn income through their operations or direct investment from their founders.

INWEST merge of "investing" and "go west"

INWEST is opposit to HODL

Just trying the convince people stop playing nonse Hold game holding bitcoin just with hope it will make them rich because there will be more buyers - this is classical ponzi game

Invest I mean is not really classical investment of money.
Bitcoin made it possible that other cryptocoins start to use blockchain in different fields of life.


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December 09, 2017, 07:52:24 PM
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About ICO:
-in which ICO or alt you will Investing sure matters, you need to make research before buying, because there are for sure a lot of shit coins made just to steal peoples money...

Making profit with other coins
-sure any investment is mainly for making profit, but there are a few coins with vision for changing the world: Tesla is still no making profit but it is a vision that will remain forever making history and changing the world. his kind of investment will come back to you in other ways , e.g. making your life better

Bitcoin as investment
- it is already long time that bitcoin made any innovation or technological progress, It have been de-gradated into pure speculation object, this makes me sad.

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December 09, 2017, 07:54:46 PM
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Do not #HODL go #INWEST support start-ups

Only investment is healthy and makes any asset useful

This is true for $, gold, bitcoin or any other asset, fiat, basis coin

HODLing under mattress in hope that speculations will make you rich is nonsense killing the economic and technical progress

USE it or you will LOSE it

#Bitcoin HODLer nowadays look like old people holding their assets under the mattress instead of investing into crypto currency world.

Even if somebody decides to go #INWEST into something new #hodlers starting a shitstorm, because these cocky shitless pensioners simply scared to lose without understanding what all crypto technologies are about.

Imagine what we can reach with current 200 Billion Market capital if at least 10% of it will be on USE #INWESTed into different projects changing the world.

I am really upset to see how bitcoin is becaming just another shity speculation object of wall street - they are all alteady preparing their "future" trading, frequent trading, margin trading instruments to enter the crypto world and SPOIL it, like it is in money market going on: only speculation and no any interest on where you invest and why.
Since you are raging against all the holders can we know what kind of projects have you created or in which you have invested your bitcoin? I suppose you have done it taking in consideration the long rant against us, if you have not then you have no right to tell to us what to do with our money.
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December 09, 2017, 11:46:34 PM
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Not every one who holds bitcoin would be ready to invest in other crypto currencies which are highly volatile and lose their investments.No one could guarantee them that crypto currencies would give profit only.That's why,they feel comfortable by just holding their bitcoins which surprisingly gives them very huge returns.

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Not every one who holds bitcoin would be ready to invest in other crypto currencies which are highly volatile and lose their investments.No one could guarantee them that crypto currencies would give profit only.That's why,they feel comfortable by just holding their bitcoins which surprisingly gives them very huge returns.
Yes not everyone are ready yet to invest in other altcoins because most attention these days are into bitcoin. Bitcoin price is very fluctuating so most are holding bitcoin. Price surge up so holding is the best these days in order to earn more.

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it depends wether you are a trader or investor.
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December 10, 2017, 12:27:17 AM
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There's a whole board for Bitcoin investments: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=78.0
Guess what? It's filled with ponzis, hypes and scams, because there's really not many Bitcoin startups out there - startups in crypto space today tend to run ICO's or get fiat funding for centralized private blockchains. The easiest and safest thing you can do is to invest in a trusted crowdfunded casino, but this will only benefit the gambling industry, which is already pretty big and thriving. And actually, there's no need to create some Bitcoin-only businesses, we just need to get Bitcoin accepted by existing ones, while startups should be focusing on innovative applications that can utilize Bitcoin's blockchain in some new ways.

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