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December 09, 2017, 03:55:57 PM
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According to https://ethgasstation.info/predictionTable.php the 99% Confidence Confirm Time is the same for 0 Gwei and 0.1 Gwei gas price. Can you send your transaction with a zero gas price or will you get an error?

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December 14, 2017, 04:33:36 PM
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lol until you are old you do not accept your ETH. if you want fast and not too expensive you can use gas price 41 gwei this is minimal and delicious in my opinion
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December 14, 2017, 05:09:13 PM
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Just try to sent some shit tokens with zero gasprice and let us know that it's success transfer or error , I never do this because i scare with error message and don't know what will happen

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December 14, 2017, 08:06:56 PM
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Just try to sent some shit tokens with zero gasprice and let us know that it's success transfer or error , I never do this because i scare with error message and don't know what will happen

You can override your transaction with a new one with a higher gas price. When you check the gas prices on https://ethgasstation.info/, the safe low always works.

Since nobody posted an answer I will test this when the network load is low.

lol until you are old you do not accept your ETH. if you want fast and not too expensive you can use gas price 41 gwei this is minimal and delicious in my opinion
This was not the question. I asked explicitly for a zero gasprice transcation. The minimal gas price for a fast transaction is also not always 41 gwei, the more transactions you have the more people will pay and therefor you have sites like https://ethgasstation.info/

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December 14, 2017, 08:14:02 PM
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I think you cannot, based on my experience since I also asked the same question and tried testing this myself. The Ethereum call code assigns a non-zero value, so even if you send zero Ether to another account, it costs min gas of 21000, at least on MyEtherWallet. Contracts on Ethereum network have to be confirmed by miners and you have to pay for it, this is different from Bitcoin blockchain. If you don't have enough gas, you won't even be able to execute.

Anyone can share any experience with a different wallet?

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December 14, 2017, 08:48:42 PM
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Before the Crypto Kitties put the blockchain down, almost all transactions with 0.1 gwei were successful. Now it's not possible to sent tokens or ETH with such low price, as you'll immediately will get an error: "Transaction underpriced" and you'll just spend your ETH for  gas.
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December 15, 2017, 07:18:33 AM
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I think you cannot, based on my experience since I also asked the same question and tried testing this myself. The Ethereum call code assigns a non-zero value, so even if you send zero Ether to another account, it costs min gas of 21000, at least on MyEtherWallet. Contracts on Ethereum network have to be confirmed by miners and you have to pay for it, this is different from Bitcoin blockchain. If you don't have enough gas, you won't even be able to execute.

Anyone can share any experience with a different wallet?

Thank you for the detailed answer.

Before the Crypto Kitties put the blockchain down, almost all transactions with 0.1 gwei were successful. Now it's not possible to sent tokens or ETH with such low price, as you'll immediately will get an error: "Transaction underpriced" and you'll just spend your ETH for  gas.

Which wallet do you use? I didn't get this message. I broadcasted with MEW. Initially the transaction didn't work, only after I resent it with higher gas.

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December 15, 2017, 08:06:23 AM
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Technically it is possible. If there won't be a queue of transactions in a pool your transaction could be processed. But now the transaction pool is around 14k so it's totally impossible to make any tx with the zero gas price.

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December 15, 2017, 08:19:37 AM
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You need min. 21000 but look here on this page about the gasprice from ethereum : https://ethgasstation.info/
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December 21, 2017, 08:21:44 PM
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i think you can not do that because that will show it you as an error but it does not cost you too much that is a personal experience.
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December 21, 2017, 09:00:42 PM
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You need min. 21000 but look here on this page about the gasprice from ethereum : https://ethgasstation.info/
Thanks for this link. This resource explains a lot about gas price. It's a pity I didn't know about it when everyone was playing cats
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December 21, 2017, 09:18:13 PM
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You need min. 21000 but look here on this page about the gasprice from ethereum : https://ethgasstation.info/
Thanks for this link. This resource explains a lot about gas price. It's a pity I didn't know about it when everyone was playing cats
If you wait for midnight the gas prices are almost under 10. Just always take a look on this site Smiley
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December 21, 2017, 09:48:19 PM
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I think that no...eth transaction need some gas if you put 0 in gas price i think tx will not send
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December 21, 2017, 10:06:53 PM
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Just try to sent some shit tokens with zero gasprice and let us know that it's success transfer or error , I never do this because i scare with error message and don't know what will happen

This, people do not undertstand that they are running with a huge risk everytime that they try to send transaction without fees.

Everytime that you look into an ICO smart contract (on their Eth wallet) There are two transactions every ten of them who are with a red cross in there, it means that they put a low fee in there.

And they will probably never get it confirmed, or maybe in a few days or weeks.

The same happens with Bitcoin transactions, why the hell do you think that you need to pay more than forty dollars to see your transaction going through?
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December 21, 2017, 10:26:44 PM
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According to https://ethgasstation.info/predictionTable.php the 99% Confidence Confirm Time is the same for 0 Gwei and 0.1 Gwei gas price. Can you send your transaction with a zero gas price or will you get an error?
It will never be delivered to the receiver's wallet address. The gas price to attract the miner mining your block and then that makes your transaction will get verified ot validated by the network. If you are not putting anything and your transaction will be stuck on the network mate.

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December 23, 2017, 04:11:17 AM
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now its not possible to send tokens or ETH with such low price as you will immediately will get error.
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December 23, 2017, 04:25:37 AM
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By default we use 21000 gas in myetherwallet when sending ethereum or tokens to other wallets but it's not working like before for last few weeks because of Pressure on Ether platform, i think. But, I get a successful transaction by using below configuration here:
Gas Limit: 31000
Gas Used By Txn: 21000
Gas Price: 0.000000041 Ether (41 Gwei)

So, Send ETH with zero gas price is now a dream only.
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December 23, 2017, 04:54:20 AM
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I haven't tried yet that kind of experiment but for me, I think you cannot send ether with zero gas price because I think it was the payment for transactions so you cannot deliver anything if you did not pay. If you have a car and you wanted to go to somewhere, you need gas, just like sending ether to another wallet. You cannot make transactions in the blockchain without any payment so for me it is better use the default gas price to make a proper transactions. If you wanted to try sending ether using zero gas price, please inform us what happen so we will have more knowledge about this transaction.

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December 24, 2017, 07:38:04 PM
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When crypto kittens appeared, I had several transactions that were suspended due to a small gas price. At that time, I did not understand what was happening.
So if you do not want to wait until your old transaction, then put a non-zero gas price.
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December 24, 2017, 07:48:00 PM
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Can you drive your car without gas? Obviously no then how can you send ether without a gas fees lol.
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