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December 10, 2017, 03:39:05 AM
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This happens with the gold price all the time before the fed makes a decision on interest rates because expirenced traders sell when there is uncertainty. I figure the pump was from inexperienced investors, and the dump was started buy the more expirenced ones. Also the negative headlines, the coinbase caution email, and the infrastructure not being able to handle the volume.
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December 10, 2017, 03:51:56 AM
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It might be one of the reason that the experienced traders are selling their coins on profit but accoridng to me the reason for the current down trend is the opening of the futures market. The Bitcoin Futures market was going to be opened on December 10 but then it has been postponed a week now and will be opened on Dec 18 . Not many know this and I think that's why people have been selling their coins so that they ca take away the profits.
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December 10, 2017, 04:03:42 AM
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This happens with the gold price all the time before the fed makes a decision on interest rates because expirenced traders sell when there is uncertainty. I figure the pump was from inexperienced investors, and the dump was started buy the more expirenced ones. Also the negative headlines, the coinbase caution email, and the infrastructure not being able to handle the volume.


BTC, ETH and ALT Coins are all very volatile, we know the nature of it. That's why many who just ride the bullish BTC Market may get the shock of their life. This investment vehicle is not for everyone. Financial Literacy is really needed, before, choosing this kind of high risk investment. As for me, as long as I secured my profit, I'm all good!

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December 10, 2017, 06:10:39 AM
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Wait when does this market ever have 'certainty'?

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December 10, 2017, 06:51:42 AM
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Wait when does this market ever have 'certainty'?

I'd say there are degrees of uncertainty. For example, we had the BIP148 debacle back in July. There was a real threat of a chain split on August 1st if a majority of miners didn't start conforming to BIP148 standards, and in July, there was no clear sign of either side giving in. At the height of the uncertainty, BTCUSD hit the $1800s.

Shortly after the lows were in, miners started signalling BIP91, which would eventually activate Segwit before BIP148 could cause a chain split. A super majority of miners quickly started running BIP91 and the market overwhelmingly rallied in response. Presumably this was because the uncertainty over the August chain split was alleviated.

I definitely prefer to trade technicals, but there are occasionally cases of important fundamental events that can cause (or resolve) market uncertainty. It can have a drastic effect on the market.
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December 14, 2017, 02:08:45 PM
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This happens with the gold price all the time before the fed makes a decision on interest rates because expirenced traders sell when there is uncertainty. I figure the pump was from inexperienced investors, and the dump was started buy the more expirenced ones. Also the negative headlines, the coinbase caution email, and the infrastructure not being able to handle the volume.

Well it's true and it’s a reality about market uncertainty because in market we can see some time foreign exchange will be closed on 100 index and some time it will be drop so it’s a part of business so need to make panic its normal bitcoin also suffering from market uncertainty but the good news is that’s its end of the year and everything is going close so we need to be relax because the price will drop and it will be high.
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December 14, 2017, 02:35:49 PM
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This happens with the gold price all the time before the fed makes a decision on interest rates because expirenced traders sell when there is uncertainty. I figure the pump was from inexperienced investors, and the dump was started buy the more expirenced ones. Also the negative headlines, the coinbase caution email, and the infrastructure not being able to handle the volume.


This is what I'm trying to say all along. The buying rate is very illogical and irrational. They are just FOMO and willing to buy bitcoin even at the top price that's why the price is being push to levels that we thought we can't crossed this year. While the inexperienced one can sense this from afar, that's why you will see that the will go down but then in half an hour it will be back from where the price is before the dump. I'm not aware of the caution email from coinbase though, but I know the issue with hitbtc today because I have coins in there that I dumped earlier. And then I saw thread that they are down. In my view, this current upward trend which coincides with the amount of people flocking maybe the reason why most of the trading platforms having issues, cautioning their clients as well to this irrational buying, as I put it. Don't be trap and exit gracefully.

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December 14, 2017, 04:10:52 PM
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Wait when does this market ever have 'certainty'?

I'd say there are degrees of uncertainty. For example, we had the BIP148 debacle back in July. There was a real threat of a chain split on August 1st if a majority of miners didn't start conforming to BIP148 standards, and in July, there was no clear sign of either side giving in. At the height of the uncertainty, BTCUSD hit the $1800s.

Shortly after the lows were in, miners started signalling BIP91, which would eventually activate Segwit before BIP148 could cause a chain split. A super majority of miners quickly started running BIP91 and the market overwhelmingly rallied in response. Presumably this was because the uncertainty over the August chain split was alleviated.

I definitely prefer to trade technicals, but there are occasionally cases of important fundamental events that can cause (or resolve) market uncertainty. It can have a drastic effect on the market.

There are no technical levels of uncertainty (as in, up and coming hardforks that can threaten bitcoin's as a project) so im not worried at all about the current uncertainty, which is just classic "it is a bubble or not?" uncertainty. This has been going on for as soon as we hit $1200 again after the lat MtGox bubble, and look at the price... people that keep wondering if it's a bubble or not instead of buying a position miss the path to the moon, and nobody knows where the top of a bubble is, or if we are even in a bubble yet.
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December 14, 2017, 04:53:47 PM
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The inexperienced traders are actually the one pumping bitcoin and in absent of not being able to push the price forward now resolved to sell and create uncertainty in the market as they don't have the momentum to drop the price or push forward. The experts are buying cheap and I expect there are trying to dump bitcoin price a bit in other to buy.
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December 14, 2017, 05:00:31 PM
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i do not think it's totally due to inexperienced but instead it's an experienced one whenever we're making any move.
in my perspective everything is arranged by the experienced one,
for example,do you think who is leading the market to reach that point (uncertainty) ?
of course it's all due to them the experienced one,they're manipulating the market and at the same time they're manipulating the traders.
also the headlines and something like that were used by them to trigger the movement.
in other words,the price pumping or not it's all not because of the inexperienced one but instead it's the opposite.
(they did that to maximize their profit from their position,that is why i said experienced one was the reason behind this movement)

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December 14, 2017, 05:05:57 PM
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The uncertainty is high right now and everyone really don't know what to expect. It has been a crazy bull run and with the inexperienced investors, they can easily be shaken off by the wall street whales which I believe can cause some scare and more weak hands getting out even at loss, hence causing a bearish trend. So far, I am on fiat and just basing my judgments on the trend which I will just keep trading based on for now, until there is sanity and certainty. If a dip eventually occurs, I am so in to buy so much more and if not, it is still all good. Still all part of trading anyway! but no need to really be scared cause bitcoin is here to stay.
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December 14, 2017, 05:25:39 PM
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Yes market is volatile and uncertain.

price can go to any direction and newbie investors who have bought at current peak levels can be the one who will loss most.

But no any investment opportunity is risk free and same goes for crypto, it is high risk - high gain investment scheme. If you can't take high risk than investing in bitcoin is not for you.

Bitcoin have lots of potential and it can actually replace whole traditional financial institution like banks and federal reserves so banks/governments are spreading FUDS and publishing warnings against bitcoin but they can't stop bitcoin which makes bitcoin more stable and secure than traditional monetary system.
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December 14, 2017, 05:37:09 PM
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This happens with the gold price all the time before the fed makes a decision on interest rates because expirenced traders sell when there is uncertainty. I figure the pump was from inexperienced investors, and the dump was started buy the more expirenced ones. Also the negative headlines, the coinbase caution email, and the infrastructure not being able to handle the volume.


That's the way it always happens, new money pumps a coin and the same new money pumps it, the experienced guys can trigger this if they want to with some market manipulation, those who don't have enough funds simply have the wherewithal to buy before the hype and sell near the top before the impending correction. The same thing happens time and time again.

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December 14, 2017, 07:38:53 PM
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The markets have always been uncertain about where it goes. Most of them only follows the collective thoughts of the experienced ones generating a mass to move the market in the direction this collective "thinks" it's heading. Now imagine if the traders in this collective acts as a single entity for their own, there would be some crazy growth, a stable price, or a sharp decline since every single one is just acting based on what they think themselves. It's the same in any other traditional investments and assets, though. People aren't certain on where the market heads; they are agreeing on what other experienced people say and that is completely different from being certain on you own about where the market heads.

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