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Question: Is TradeFortress a criminal?
Yes, absolutely he is a criminal - 49 (24.3%)
Yes, absolutely he is a con man - 18 (8.9%)
Yes, absolutely he is running an illegal bank - 13 (6.4%)
No, why would you say that? - 72 (35.6%)
I don't know - 50 (24.8%)
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July 17, 2013, 12:41:37 PM
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We will be launching a new website soon dedicated to open discussion about TradeFortress, his various websites and alleged scams he has done.

There will be lots of useful information on it along with hard evidence. Stay tuned guys!

Oooooo, I am excited!


This thread is pointless, since Viceroy deletes posts which he does not like...

I delete posts that add no value.  If you can criticize an idea you are welcome to post.  If you are loudmouthed money launder who is in TFs fan club and your response includes personal attacks it will, again, be removed.
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July 18, 2013, 03:34:53 PM
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Here is a sneak preview from our upcoming website: minecraft.exe

TF will know what that means. Wink

And check out this hilarious IRC chatlog from #ubuntu-server on IRC:

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TradeFortress   I believe my server has being compromised. Apache access.log and error.log is missing Jan 12th   01:04
=== Malediction_ is now known as Malediction
TradeFortress   How do I see if someone actually logged onto my server? access.log has a lot of disconnects from an IP in china   01:07
=== ejnahc_ is now known as ejnahc
ikonia   TradeFortress: then they have not logged in   01:12
TradeFortress   ok, thanks. is there any reason for missing Jan 12th in Apache logs? other than an attacker removed them?   01:13
patdk-lap   isn't the default only weekly rotates?   01:13
PryMar56   TradeFortress, see if they are parsing for php* (blogs,wordpress,sql) setup config files... they will try to get credentials   01:14
TradeFortress   ahh, I'm not running a custom script, I'm running a self developed one (which was hacked)   01:15
ikonia   TradeFortress: if you have any reason to suspect comrpomise, re-install your whole OS resetting all passwords   01:15
TradeFortress   ikonia: I'll do that, but then I'll get attacked again.. can't see how they did it with the logs.   01:16
ikonia   TradeFortress: no,   01:16
patdk-lap   the longs won't show much   01:16
ikonia   TradeFortress: you seem to know what it was already, your script   01:16
patdk-lap   and it might show 1 issue, but not all issues you have   01:16
patdk-lap   expecially if they used POST requests   01:17
TradeFortress   okay, but the attacker somehow got root access..   01:17
ikonia   TradeFortress: delete your OS - re-install   01:18
ikonia   TradeFortress: that is the answer   01:18
patdk-lap   if they got root access you have many levels of issues to correct   01:18
patdk-lap   and the logs won't show that   01:18
TradeFortress   thanks everyone, I'm going to reinstall & look for a pentester

Even phunnier, here is his reply:

Try hacking inputs.io or coinlenders actually.

Oh wait Cheesy

FYI, that's not actually for any of my projects, but I'll let you think whatever you want.

The community trusts this anonymous person (who isn't so anonymous after all! Wink) with approximately $2million in BTC. Dafuq is going on here?
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July 23, 2013, 08:03:38 PM
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How is TradeFortress offer any different from Pirateat40's Ponzi scheme offer?


>From at least ____ to ____ (“relevant period”), Shavers, operating under
>the Internet name “pirateat40,” offered and sold BTCST investments over
>the Internet

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>Shavers falsely promised investors up to 7% interest weekly

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>In reality, the BTCST offering was a sham and a Ponzi scheme



http://www.sec.gov/litigation/complaints/2013/comp-pr2013-132.pdf
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July 24, 2013, 05:47:33 PM
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How is TradeFortress offer any different from Pirateat40's Ponzi scheme offer?


>From at least ____ to ____ (“relevant period”), Shavers, operating under
>the Internet name “pirateat40,” offered and sold BTCST investments over
>the Internet

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>Shavers falsely promised investors up to 7% interest weekly

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>In reality, the BTCST offering was a sham and a Ponzi scheme



http://www.sec.gov/litigation/complaints/2013/comp-pr2013-132.pdf


it is not ... unregistered securities is a pretty big umbrella, lots of other things might qualify like pass through shares...

he is royally screwed, if he in some way falls under the laws of the US; based on his writing I think he likely does.  if he has ever done an escrow with anyone who does not like him, all the govt agents have to do is find one of the escrow agents, threaten them with prison time for withholding evidence from a criminal investigation, and he is fried chicken...

hell there might even be a money reward, the govt does that in some cases... 10% of 2 mil is a tidy sum....


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July 30, 2013, 07:15:22 PM
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IMO the second he pisses someone off he is going to get a lot of attention on him and get fucked.
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August 06, 2013, 05:35:33 AM
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Little off-topic but... why is your "ignore" link highlighted in orange? You're the first person with it highlighted like that, lol. And it's all of your posts... (Viceroy)

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August 06, 2013, 02:11:56 PM
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Because I have the distinct honor of being ignored by more than 50 fools in these forums.  ;-)

 
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August 08, 2013, 12:16:03 AM
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Because I have the distinct honor of being ignored by more than 50 fools in these forums.  ;-)

 

Is that really a statistic?

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August 08, 2013, 03:05:35 PM
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Because I have the distinct honor of being ignored by more than 50 fools in these forums.  ;-)

 

Is that really a statistic?

Yes.


And now, back to the show....   the SEC has the right to regulate bitcoin trading because bitcoin is NOW MONEY!

http://www.wired.com/wiredenterprise/2013/08/court-says-bitcoin-is-money/
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August 08, 2013, 04:32:46 PM
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You should add an option for  No, and I see what you're trying to do Grin
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You should add an option for  No, and I see what you're trying to do Grin

I'm curious, was that co-incidence?

You should add an option for "No, and I see what you're trying to do."

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August 15, 2013, 05:26:47 PM
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We will be launching a new website soon dedicated to open discussion about TradeFortress, his various websites and alleged scams he has done.

There will be lots of useful information on it along with hard evidence. Stay tuned guys!

As I have stated previously I am looking forward to the launch of this site and have plenty of people lined up willing to buy adspace or offer whatever support necessary.


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August 17, 2013, 12:25:09 PM
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We will be launching a new website soon dedicated to open discussion about TradeFortress, his various websites and alleged scams he has done.

There will be lots of useful information on it along with hard evidence. Stay tuned guys!

As I have stated previously I am looking forward to the launch of this site and have plenty of people lined up willing to buy adspace or offer whatever support necessary.

So you're going to launch a website where you make allegations against another person, possibly illegal allegations, and you're offering ad space on it.

Now that is a scam.

Whatever your issues with TradeFortress, you are not coming out of this well.
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How is that any different from what TF did when he paid people to advertise that Ripple is a scam?  Or him starting a website that says ripple is a scam?  

So you are saying, indirectly, that TF is a scammer.  



If Zaih hits his 5 BTC limit I will also bet up to 25 BTC for casinobit being a ponzi / scam.

Gotta love when ponzi schemer/scammers (like TF) start betting that things are ponzi schemes.  Of course he's doing it with community money so there is no risk in that, right TF?


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How is that any different from what TF did when he paid people to advertise that Ripple is a scam?  Or him starting a website that says ripple is a scam?  

So you are saying, indirectly, that TF is a scammer.  

No, I didn't comment on TradeFortress at all and nor am I going to because I'm not in either camp.

I was commenting on what is clearly a very personal grudge being handled badly.


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August 17, 2013, 02:14:17 PM
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How is what scotaloo proposed any different that what TF has done with his paying people to advertise that ripple is a scam or authoring a website about the same?

To be consistent in your logic you must be willing to admit that scotaloo and TF are acting the same and so they are either both expressing free speech or they are both behaving badly.
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August 17, 2013, 02:23:06 PM
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One is a personal attack and one is not.

TF's attack is on a currency. Do I agree with him? No I don't. If he paid to advertise this fact then no I don't agree with that personally but in the end it's done as a political statement or for some commercial reason I'm unaware of.

That is very different from setting up a site to attack an individual and then taking advertising on that site.

It's making all this seem very personal. Just my opinion.
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what are these certificates you speak and do you have a website link Angry

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August 17, 2013, 04:37:11 PM
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what are these certificates you speak and do you have a website link Angry

If that was to me, here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=256008.msg2731055#msg2731055

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August 17, 2013, 05:05:42 PM
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One is a personal attack and one is not.

TF's attack is on a currency. Do I agree with him? No I don't. If he paid to advertise this fact then no I don't agree with that personally but in the end it's done as a political statement or for some commercial reason I'm unaware of.

That is very different from setting up a site to attack an individual and then taking advertising on that site.

It's making all this seem very personal. Just my opinion.

The attack is against a company, its' employees and its' product, not currency.

This "attack against TF".. We can call it "an attack against immoral, shady and illegal activities".

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