{ANN} Cloudcoin CDC Release Announcement - POS/POW Scheme| NEWS - UPDATE V1.1

[Kujmandosz]

Hehe. You are funny. If you think that a coin only needs pools, faucet and blockexplorer than your are missing sth.
We are working on worldwide adoptions too. And merchants and sites need our coins to get started.

[Kujmandosz]

Alright.

So I was expected the release to be on Sunday although my dev team, which main part is in China finished the coin and unintentionally released it under my account. At that time I was not near my computer so I couln't get his note about the release. So he released it and made the announcement. Than I got back to my computer and saw his note and the release thread.

Clearly it was a communication mistake and I fully understand what you are saying. However we are still here and working hard on the coin, that did not change.

Please give us a second chance.

Thank you,
Raymond

[captainfuture]

then u are a bad CEO.

[Stinky_Pete]

Sorry, but you blew it. No second chance.

[nawazish1]

Why not you guys restart the coin again from the beginning. And excuse to miners for the time they have wasted till now. That way every one will be happy.

[Kujmandosz]

Why not you guys restart the coin again from the beginning. And excuse to miners for the time they have wasted till now. That way every one will be happy.

Thank you for your suggestion. But We won't start again the coin for a few guys who are complaining. The network already has 28+ mh/s rate and it is increasing. We will keep on rolling.

[apbyte]

I will not try to offend anyone so please chill

I am fine with coins being premined, yes some devs who do not have enought resources do premine to do promotion. As we all know premine is very sensitive thing and every coin dev has learned that it they should be straight forward about it "there will be x premine and we will use it x1 for Y thing, x2 for Z thing etc.

So to sum up what is wrong with this coin and why many people will not go in
1. there was no information about premine
2. premine is huge!!! c'mon this is too big
3. there still is no information on where it will be used, only 60k have been listed as bounties, there is no detailed information where the rest will go.
4. If you don't know how you will use it, then you don't have plan, and business without plan doesn't make anyone feel secure that this coin is next big thing and we should waste hash exactly on this coin
5. If this is not business but decentralized opensource thing, then you shouldn't have premine bigger than those 60k, as everything after that will be done by community effort
6. no good communication channels with devs, so this will happen again and again and that if something will need to be done quickly you will not be able to get them to work immediately
7. as devs are not part of this coin and are some service from different country - you are paying them, which means - when money will run out they will stop supporting this coin.
8. oldschool ... all newest coins are released with some services already built, to attract more people from very beginning. It will be almost impossible to win people from those coins to yours and make them wait for promises that there will be something built later.


How you can fix that?
1. Quickly learn everything about altcoins
2. Sort out problems with devs
3. fix premine problem, give those 940k to community in huge giveaway

Until you will do that - noone will believe about your good intentions

And sorry, but "sorry, give me second chance" will not cut it, there is fierce competition, about 50 active coins, close to 100 partly active coins, you need to do something better to take your place in community harts.

[Kujmandosz]

Thank you for your comment and suggestions, i really appreciate it. I am going to sum up our plans and make giveaways soon. We will keep on working hard.

[lucasjkr]

Why not you guys restart the coin again from the beginning. And excuse to miners for the time they have wasted till now. That way every one will be happy.

Thank you for your suggestion. But We won't start again the coin for a few guys who are complaining. The network already has 28+ mh/s rate and it is increasing. We will keep on rolling.

You only have a few complaining because a lot of people have not clue that you even launched the coin yet.

You have 28+ mh.

One GPU can get, say, 800 kh on average. So, you've got 35 people mining away. Or, really, maybe three people with a few decent rigs.

That's a successful launch that can't be undone? That's worth it to you?  You probably had quite a few more people ready to participate but waiting for the day that you said you'd launch it.

How much money did you spend on this? It's all going up in smoke.

[Kujmandosz]

Everybody can jump in now. What are you guys waiting for. It is still low difficulty, and you gusy are here online. Start mining, if you want to.

official mining pool released: http://cloudcoin.miningpool.co

[lucasjkr]

If you want this coin to work, you're going to have to relaunch it. Why would I start mining when the blockchain will get reset. Or it doesn't get reset and it won't go anywhere anyways.

We were all ready to mine on Sunday. Your team screwed that up, not any of us.

Add to that a million coin premine that came out of nowhere.

You asked for a second chance and said you're still serious about this coin. Relaunch it when you said you would, and do so with a less insulting pre-mine. I could understand a few thousand to cover the goals you outlined. But a million? 1% of all the coins that will ever be produced? We might as well call you Ripple. This is sheer greed. And with a super high starting difficulty to prevent "instamining" no less? There wouldn't have been an instamine on Sunday, you had given everyone ample notice of the launch.

So no, I won't mine until and unless you fix this. And I hope everyone else follows suit.

[Kujmandosz]

Please don't be like that. The train took off. We mad that mistake but everything else is the same. We are working on multiple things and following outlr plans. There is not gonna be a relaunch, i can assure you.
NO RELAUNCH. THE CLOUDCOIN TRAN TOOK OFF. You can join now. Still very profitable and easy to mine or just ignore is.

[Kujmandosz]

Network hashrate is 60+ MH/s now and increasing. Come and join us now. Everybody.

[number37]

Hehe. You are funny. If you think that a coin only needs pools, faucet and blockexplorer than your are missing sth.
We are working on worldwide adoptions too. And merchants and sites need our coins to get started.

Why don't you cut the BS and just say what everyone already knows.  You are a horrible liar and this is a Junk coin that you hope to pump and dump.  This coin will go nowhere.  No one should waste their time mining this coin as it has zero to negative value as you cannot recoup your time!

1,000,000 PREMINE!! AND EACH BLOCK IS ONLY 50!!!  That's over 20,000 blocks!!  Are these baffoons crazy?  Maybe 1 year's worth of mining!


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          JJJJJJJJJJJUUUUUUUU     UUUUUUUUNNNNNNNN        NNNNNNNNKKKKKKKKK    KKKKKKK
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Agree. 1000000 premine + 100% copy and paste from DMD code, only PoW parameters changed.

[lucasjkr]

Please don't be like that. The train took off. We mad that mistake but everything else is the same. We are working on multiple things and following outlr plans. There is not gonna be a relaunch, i can assure you.
NO RELAUNCH. THE CLOUDCOIN TRAN TOOK OFF. You can join now. Still very profitable and easy to mine or just ignore is.

I had my bags packed and planned for the train on Sunday. I'm not going to run and chase it when there are so many other trains to ride along on. I'd rather be on a train where the conductors speak to each other rather than act completely arbitrarily.

You said your pool was up to 60 MH.

Why is only reporting 12 MH and 15 miners now? Apparently, I could 51% your network at this point?

http://cloudcoin.miningpool.co/stats

Look at Primecoins launch and compare to your own.

[Kujmandosz]

I said that the network has 60 MH by now it is 100MH and look at the pool now it is growing.
I am still sorry about the release, dude. If you want me to i can make up for it with some coins. But that is te only thing I can do. I wanna be friends with you.

[mill0601]

I said that the network has 60 MH by now it is 100MH and look at the pool now it is growing.
I am still sorry about the release, dude. If you want me to i can make up for it with some coins. But that is te only thing I can do. I wanna be friends with you.

I will take you up on that BwZMSDoFPEzHBUwwcpWRB6FdrrD7Fu6JDQ

[Kujmandosz]

I will send you a big gift tomorrow. 

[Kujmandosz]

Also everybody will get sone coins. I am going to have a giveaway thread tomorrow.

[broken_pixel]

This is neat

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