How to remove negative trust? (from Lauda)

[Erelas]

I don't care if you make a statement on it one way or the other, I simply presented the question.  If a reader of BTCTalk doesn't have the common sense to read the archives for themselves or actually read some of the "Trust" ratings you have been given in the past, that is on them.

If I totally disconnected from it personally, then I would have to say that there is so much smoke, there might be a little bit of fire, and I'd steer clear in anyway that involved finances.

I enjoy a good few rounds of BlackJack, but I don't love gambling enough to trust blindly, I make my own and trust no default.

[TheUltraElite]

I don't care if you make a statement on it one way or the other, I simply presented the question.  If a reader of BTCTalk doesn't have the common sense to read the archives for themselves or actually read some of the "Trust" ratings you have been given in the past, that is on them.

The only person who does not have commen sense is you and your legion of alts. Go away from this forum if you dont like. I know you will be back because you third world shitposters dont have lives to lead and are begging around for every single penny that you can acquire.

If I totally disconnected from it personally, then I would have to say that there is so much smoke, there might be a little bit of fire, and I'd steer clear in anyway that involved finances.

Account sales lead to shitposting as is prevelant in the entire forum. In case you dont know this then do so because its pretty late anyway.

I enjoy a good few rounds of BlackJack, but I don't love gambling enough to trust blindly, I make my own and trust no default.

Then make your own trust list. There is the option to edit your trust list. The default list is supplied by theymos when anyone signs up on the website. If you fell they are untrustworthy then just remove them from the list.

[Erelas]

Sorry to disappoint you, but no "legion of alts" here, that sounds kind of like a bad DC comics title, lol.

I am familiar with how to edit the default trust list and have done that, and honestly, once people do some business around the forum and feel they can reasonably decide for themselves, they should do so.  Not quite sure why you are arguing that, as I previously mentioned that, or it could at least be assumed from my previous "make your own trust" statement.  To further illustrate my point though, when I have mentioned it before, probably months ago, Lauda actually replied that would be foolish.  So, though you seem to be on the bandwagon with them, you apparently more agree with me.

Again, sorry to disappoint, but as for being a third-world poster, I am not from Chicago.

[Bellator]

Sorry to disappoint you, but no "legion of alts" here, that sounds kind of like a bad DC comics title, lol.

I am familiar with how to edit the default trust list and have done that, and honestly, once people do some business around the forum and feel they can reasonably decide for themselves, they should do so.  Not quite sure why you are arguing that, as I previously mentioned that, or it could at least be assumed from my previous "make your own trust" statement.  To further illustrate my point though, when I have mentioned it before, probably months ago, Lauda actually replied that would be foolish.  So, though you seem to be on the bandwagon with them, you apparently more agree with me.

Again, sorry to disappoint, but as for being a third-world poster, I am not from Chicago.

Well the current situations that happened for those alts sanctioned with negative trust, I suggest that you should make an apology to the one whose provided you a red trust. Because if that will be a big case against you, I think you don't deserve an appeal of removing red trust on the profile you have. Its clear that having alts or breaking the rules in this forum will have a deeper penalty, which could leads you to be given red trust from a high reputation manager.

[Erelas]

I think you might misunderstand me, or I you, sorry if that's the case, because I have no alts here.  If I did, and used them for some underhanded purpose, even if within the actual forum rules, I honestly wouldn't feel fit to make a peep about anyone else.  That would be rather hypocritical of me, or ANYONE else that did so, whether they see / admit to it, or not.

[yojodojo21]

OP wants an explanation how did he get a neg rep from a DT member, He explains like "why do I have to get a neg rep, I'm just selling my account" LOL funniest joke for a full member. How did you get into a full member not knowing that selling account is prohibited. And now statements above my post reply asking for removal of neg rep, well if you disobey, neg rep  is irrevocable and no need to explain, period.

[Erelas]

For the record, I think selling accounts "should" be against the rules, the problem is, it isn't actually against the rules of this forum.  It is in bad taste, a bad practice in my opinion, and does deserve a negative reputation to be given (if it were indeed against posted rules of the forum).  Since it is not actually against the posted rules of the forum, just a sort of tribal ruleset (that I personally do agree with) then negative trust being given because of doing something "inside" the rules is more of a violation.

If someone wishes to give negative trust (red) for selling accounts, let's first address the issue that it should be against the rules, amend the rules, and then start handing out red, not before.  Just my opinion.

[timerland]

As you can probably see by now, there is no possible way to remove the negative trust yourself. If you could, what is the point of the trust system as it is?

Lauda is strict on account sales and the cancer behind such a business, ergo I see little to no chance in getting your account's trust back to neutral.

For the record, I think selling accounts "should" be against the rules ~

I see it the same way, however Theymos doesn't seem like he is willing to do anything about it. I think it is time this forum got an update: Trust system, new rules... etc.

[Erelas]

As you can probably see by now, there is no possible way to remove the negative trust yourself. If you could, what is the point of the trust system as it is?

Lauda is strict on account sales and the cancer behind such a business, ergo I see little to no chance in getting your account's trust back to neutral.

For the record, I think selling accounts "should" be against the rules ~

I see it the same way, however Theymos doesn't seem like he is willing to do anything about it. I think it is time this forum got an update: Trust system, new rules... etc.

Honestly couldn't agree more.  It's unfortunate that the "premier" BTC site hasn't gotten an overhaul in the trust system and probably in a few more, probably more necessary, ways.

Really, if you make a career out of short-selling, and you see BTC is available to short now on the CBOE and you have no experience with crypto and come here to learn, well....you might feel all the actors are a bit sketchy.

Someone with some oomph will fill the void though.

[MainIbem]

Launda is a moderator in BTT. There are rules governing the forum. When you knowingly or unknowingly break a rule, the moderator will give you a negative trust. It is a way to check the activities of forum members. If such trust is giving in "error", you take the time to politely explain yourself. If the person that gave you the negative trust is convinced of your reasons the negative trust will definitely be removed.

[ibminer]

Launda is a moderator in BTT. There are rules governing the forum. When you knowingly or unknowingly break a rule, the moderator will give you a negative trust. It is a way to check the activities of forum members. If such trust is giving in "error", you take the time to politely explain yourself. If the person that gave you the negative trust is convinced of your reasons the negative trust will definitely be removed.

No, being a moderator and being on DT (DefaultTrust) are two different things.

If you can take a minute to try and stop filling your post quota, you might take some time to read: 
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=211858.0

[MainIbem]

Launda is a moderator in BTT. There are rules governing the forum. When you knowingly or unknowingly break a rule, the moderator will give you a negative trust. It is a way to check the activities of forum members. If such trust is giving in "error", you take the time to politely explain yourself. If the person that gave you the negative trust is convinced of your reasons the negative trust will definitely be removed.

No, being a moderator and being on DT (DefaultTrust) are two different things.

If you can take a minute to try and stop filling your post quota, you might take some time to read: 
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=211858.0

Thanks for the information and update. But I can see some reason for a negative trust in this paragraph:

The first number is the user's trust score calculated based on how consistently they've received positive feedback. Probably no one will get a score above 0 until the system has been around for at least a month. The second number is the number of reported scams. The third number increases with the number of positive reports, as does the fourth number in parenthesis, though the fourth number is more resistant to abuse. This text changes color depending on the score. Users with a negative score (attainable through scamming) get a red warning attached to their posts.

I think this statement is being interpreted as PERCEIVED scam.

What then can be done in a situation where it is perceived scam rather than a scam?

[actmyname]

Now, if it had been you, that someone on default trust decided to neg, and you weren't on the DT yourself, I would imagine you'd be fairly ticked off that there would be little to nothing you could do about it, especially if you had not violated the written rules.

Huh.

"Q: Why haven't you banned <insert scammer username here> who is an obvious scammer?
A: Possible (or real, not for me to decide) scams are not moderated to prevent moderator abuse. If we start picking out which ones we call "scammers" and ban, we would make a lot of decisions based on biased opinions."

src: here

DT shouldn't tag me with a negative trust because I scammed! It's not on the rules and I violated nothing!

[Quickseller]

If you have any questions about when or why Lauda will leave negative trust, I would advise reviewing this video.

[TheUltraElite]

If you have any questions about when or why Lauda will leave negative trust, I would advise reviewing this video.

LOL this seriously shows how much butt-hurt you are after you got bombarded with negative trust. I still wonder how you are here on this forum and manage to troll around without any issues.

You seriously need to lock yourself up inside a room and think about what you have done to farm trust in this forum. Now dont go around ranting about why Lauda is anti-Christ and how they "extorted" others. Those have become pretty old now - QS needs to try something new.

[murtaja]

Only Lauda can remove it.

Well i have pm'ed Lauda..

I think he seems don't cares. (by see Lauda's last login.)

lauda is the real spammer. they run a group of members who always do this such things to other account. LAUDA,PATATAS are in that group.