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December 11, 2017, 02:38:33 AM
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Hi,

I had sent myself 2 transaction for .0748458 and 1.1147815 from an exchange to my other wallet.
The blockchain.info shows the transaction has been confirmed and then another transaction of the total amount being sent out.

https://blockchain.info/address/18EC8axfZZBj5rM3wfnVAZCPmuBP3v5E7r#
I have checked my wallet BTC history and there is no deposit or withdrawal of the amounts missing. Could my wallet address been cloned to receive and then used again to send out? Which part could be compromised.... the person sending out the BTC or the bitcoin wallet receiving side?
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December 11, 2017, 03:01:07 AM
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It shows final balance 0. Your deposit was received. But somebody withdraw all the available funds (-1.86BTC).

What wallet are you using?

//withdrawal is unconfirmed, you might still save your funds by double spending your money, basically making another withdrawal to a new secured address with higher transfer fee, this transaction would be processed first, first transaction would be cancelled, as no more funds would be available

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December 11, 2017, 03:31:31 AM
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Would be a tad more helpful if you were to put out the TX ID  for the transcation that you're talking about, would be a bit easier for all of us here to pinpoint what you're looking at. But back onto the quesiton, no, a wallet can't be copied or cloned (given that you've encrypted it and ARE THE ONLY ONE THAT CONTROLS THE PRIVATE KEYS) But I don't fully know if I understand what you're saying here, was this from an exchange wallet or--?

Personal wallet? I'm a bit lost.




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December 11, 2017, 03:50:41 AM
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I have something similar

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2554554.msg26034480#msg26034480

Today my bitcoins were stolen by somebody. I had 2 unconfirmed transactions from last week. Trying to solve this problem I install Mycelium android wallet and exported private key from blockchain.info after that I have rebroadcast-ed these unconfirmed transaction with low fee. This did not helped me. Then yesterday I installed Bitcoin Wallet from here: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.schildbach.wallet&hl=en and then exported private key to this wallet. Today I see this https://blockchain.info/address/1KxXKYbDcsmyqj98iLUEWuQrkueZvNo68y .

Last transaction was made for exact amount that I had from two unconfirmed transactions. I think last bitcoin wallet stole my private key.
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December 11, 2017, 04:16:04 AM
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you shouldn't be  downloading random wallets from the internet and use them with your private keys and also whenever you import/export private keys you must make sure that the environment is safe enough. if you lost your bitcoins you may have had some keylogger or some other type of malware that stole it from you.

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December 11, 2017, 04:32:25 AM
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The bitcoin wallet that we have made is highly secured which having a private key in order to access your account.  Example of bitcoin wallet is the coins.ph that can access only via cellphone number or your email address that needs a code first before you access your wallet. Also, the possibility to be cloned is impossible because the email add or cellphone number is already been access on that particular wallet unless you changed it manually via verification like your password. As the time passes by I believed that the security is upgraded as the bitcoin is increasing.
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December 11, 2017, 07:38:37 AM
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You really should stop using random online wallets and put your private keys on the, if you really want to keep your cryptos secured. Also, wallets that don't offer 2FA are scams.
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December 11, 2017, 08:16:52 AM
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NO bitcoin wallet can't copied or cloned. Because it is very unique wallet. So it is not so easy to cloned or copy bitcoin wallet.
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December 11, 2017, 08:25:55 AM
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Hi,

I had sent myself 2 transaction for .0748458 and 1.1147815 from an exchange to my other wallet.
The blockchain.info shows the transaction has been confirmed and then another transaction of the total amount being sent out.

https://blockchain.info/address/18EC8axfZZBj5rM3wfnVAZCPmuBP3v5E7r#
I have checked my wallet BTC history and there is no deposit or withdrawal of the amounts missing. Could my wallet address been cloned to receive and then used again to send out? Which part could be compromised.... the person sending out the BTC or the bitcoin wallet receiving side?

If a person is proficient enough then i believe that there is a world in which this can be cloned, copied or wven duplicated. However we just have to hope that security measures are being done to stop this as hackers are roaming around and circling

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December 11, 2017, 08:33:38 AM
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NO bitcoin wallet can't copied or cloned. Because it is very unique wallet. So it is not so easy to cloned or copy bitcoin wallet.

I steal your wallet.dat file from your system.

Just install BITCOIND on a fresh machine, with YOUR wallet.dat file intact and bingo its MY wallet,if its encrypted, then I use jack-the-ripper to find the password on the wallet.

If somebody gains access to your wallet.dat file, then its theirs, this is why ppl have fire walls on their computer, or never run bitcoind with open ports
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December 11, 2017, 08:35:43 AM
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Hi,

I had sent myself 2 transaction for .0748458 and 1.1147815 from an exchange to my other wallet.
The blockchain.info shows the transaction has been confirmed and then another transaction of the total amount being sent out.

https://blockchain.info/address/18EC8axfZZBj5rM3wfnVAZCPmuBP3v5E7r#
I have checked my wallet BTC history and there is no deposit or withdrawal of the amounts missing. Could my wallet address been cloned to receive and then used again to send out? Which part could be compromised.... the person sending out the BTC or the bitcoin wallet receiving side?

If a person is proficient enough then i believe that there is a world in which this can be cloned, copied or wven duplicated. However we just have to hope that security measures are being done to stop this as hackers are roaming around and circling

If you have ever looked at porn on your computer, then there is a key logger installed.

If you have a key logger, then you have a bot that looks for wallets and sends them home.

End of story.

This is why ppl are told to only do stuff with wallets offline on cold system booted that don't have browsers or any vector to a bot logger, or russian mafia
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December 11, 2017, 08:38:29 AM
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you shouldn't be  downloading random wallets from the internet and use them with your private keys and also whenever you import/export private keys you must make sure that the environment is safe enough. if you lost your bitcoins you may have had some keylogger or some other type of malware that stole it from you.

ppl shouldn't be doing a lot of thing, and these are the same ppl telling their grand mother to BUY BITCOIN

If its on the INTERNET and its FREE, then its a SCAM

Rule #1 of BITCOIN, don't have more money in BTC than your willing to lose, cuz its easier to lose than to obtain.
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December 11, 2017, 09:10:46 AM
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Hi,

I had sent myself 2 transaction for .0748458 and 1.1147815 from an exchange to my other wallet.
The blockchain.info shows the transaction has been confirmed and then another transaction of the total amount being sent out.

https://blockchain.info/address/18EC8axfZZBj5rM3wfnVAZCPmuBP3v5E7r#
I have checked my wallet BTC history and there is no deposit or withdrawal of the amounts missing. Could my wallet address been cloned to receive and then used again to send out? Which part could be compromised.... the person sending out the BTC or the bitcoin wallet receiving side?

I checked your wallet..
You received 0.748458 BTC + 1.1147815 BTC
I see strange TX https://blockchain.info/tx/3c37c11bbf9e65b277bdda0925cbf8fb1b448ed977a395d93acee609a4546149
What is this 1B8fzVUtomvM2wLLuqvaRApgnsGkmb2A7o ??

It's all right your balance 2.06BTC
https://www.walletexplorer.com/address/18EC8axfZZBj5rM3wfnVAZCPmuBP3v5E7r


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December 11, 2017, 09:12:11 AM
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It shows final balance 0. Your deposit was received. But somebody withdraw all the available funds (-1.86BTC).

What wallet are you using?

//withdrawal is unconfirmed, you might still save your funds by double spending your money, basically making another withdrawal to a new secured address with higher transfer fee, this transaction would be processed first, first transaction would be cancelled, as no more funds would be available

@newbieMN, ^ this is some really solid advice, bitcoin transactions are really slow right now, if you move fast and do exactly what this guy recommended than you still have a chance to save your Bitcoins. I hope you have done this already and not sat there doing nothing while russian mafia steal all your stuff.

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December 11, 2017, 09:22:43 AM
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Copy or got cloned would practically impossible. It's someone got accessed to your account and do some unathorized withdrawal. Which is very the reason why your balance got zero or maybe you got an auto debit in your case which resulted to a system error or poor connection.

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December 31, 2017, 01:04:17 AM
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The bitcoin wallet that we have made is highly secured which having a private key in order to access your account.  Example of bitcoin wallet is the coins.ph that can access only via cellphone number or your email address that needs a code first before you access your wallet. Also, the possibility to be cloned is impossible because the email add or cellphone number is already been access on that particular wallet unless you changed it manually via verification like your password. As the time passes by I believed that the security is upgraded as the bitcoin is increasing.

Your right mate, it's impossible the bitcoin wallet be copied or cloned as far as I know it has a lot of verification like e mail address which you need to log in to confirm the verification codes that was sent. Well, if you are careless about your private informations like private key and password for sure you can't  access your account or if you can access you will suddenly that zero amount of btc which already transferred to other account. Just be aware all the time.
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January 15, 2018, 12:59:05 PM
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To be safe, never trust third parties that lets you download wallets for Bitcoins since majority of them are scam and will get your money. So, better consult the website first.
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January 15, 2018, 01:21:22 PM
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The bitcoin wallet that we have been doing is a high security, to access your personal account requires an email account or access via your mobile phone number so the ability to duplicate or copy Copying the bitrate is not possible.
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January 17, 2018, 07:56:43 PM
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No, Bitcoin can never be cloned. If you see another website that offers them for a cheaper price, it is more likely to be fraud and you should stay away from them or report them immediately.
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