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July 15, 2013, 11:18:04 AM
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Many people here would say that it's safer to secure bitcoin on Linux. Are the Microsoft NSA revelations further proof in the affirmative? Is it possible for 3rd parties to surreptitiously access files on NSA-compliant windows systems?

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2421733,00.asp

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July 15, 2013, 04:22:48 PM
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Simple solution: Disable updates

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July 15, 2013, 04:37:30 PM
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Personally, if I were any foreign government or corporation, I'd stop using all Microsoft products immediately for fear of America spying on me. Nothing can be secret.  - John C. Dvorak

Windows and Google cannot be trusted.
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July 15, 2013, 04:42:02 PM
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To start with, don't even try to secure your bitcoins on a computer that is connected to the Internet.

Offline wallets are a minimum requirement when it comes to securing bitcoins.
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July 15, 2013, 09:11:44 PM
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To start with, don't even try to secure your bitcoins on a computer that is connected to the Internet.

Offline wallets are a minimum requirement when it comes to securing bitcoins.

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July 15, 2013, 09:37:05 PM
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Yeah, sorry the NSA doesnt give a fuck about your bitcoins.
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July 16, 2013, 01:06:26 AM
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Windows Datacenter editions are solid.
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July 16, 2013, 01:10:19 AM
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Windows Datacenter editions are solid.

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July 16, 2013, 01:12:01 AM
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I've said too much.  Cool
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July 16, 2013, 01:19:55 AM
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I've said too much.  Cool

If by "too much" you mean complete nonsense well your right.  All the editions of windows server come from the same codebase.
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July 17, 2013, 12:41:23 PM
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Yeah, sorry the NSA doesnt give a fuck about your bitcoins.

Dragnet surveillance doesn't differentiate. Why bother with filters?

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July 17, 2013, 02:26:34 PM
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Simple solution: Disable updates

Nooo... malware will try to fetch your wallet more vigorously than MS. (or evil government)
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July 17, 2013, 10:55:27 PM
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A. Put your wallet.dat file in a folder called 'want to play a game' with 1,000,000 other copies of a wallet.dat.
B. See how long it takes them to try out all the wallets.

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July 17, 2013, 11:17:57 PM
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Encrypt your wallet and spread it over some cloud spaces in the internet
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July 17, 2013, 11:22:15 PM
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Firewall
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Encrypt Wallet

Dual boot -» WIN to Mining , Linux to Wallet.

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July 30, 2013, 06:53:09 AM
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I can run linux - Barely. Of my friends, about 15% could do the same. But I'm not sure I could use Bitcoin while running Linux. Guess I'll have to give it a try. Still, if we can't have secure BitWallets while running Windows on internet connected machines, how can I expect the 85% to adopt Bitcoin? The barriers remain a bit too high for widespread adoption, I think. Hope this changes. Is membership in teh Geek species mandatory? Am I offbase? Are we DOOMED?
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July 30, 2013, 08:01:34 AM
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I can run linux - Barely. Of my friends, about 15% could do the same. But I'm not sure I could use Bitcoin while running Linux. Guess I'll have to give it a try. Still, if we can't have secure BitWallets while running Windows on internet connected machines, how can I expect the 85% to adopt Bitcoin? The barriers remain a bit too high for widespread adoption, I think. Hope this changes. Is membership in teh Geek species mandatory? Am I offbase? Are we DOOMED?

Secure hardware wallets are coming to rescue. For example, Trezor. Trezor can be used with untrusted computer and it's safe.

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July 30, 2013, 12:54:31 PM
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To start with, don't even try to secure your bitcoins on a computer that is connected to the Internet.

Offline wallets are a minimum requirement when it comes to securing bitcoins.

+1

I'm quite confident that any system that has a significant user base is a target for private and governmental exploits.


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July 30, 2013, 05:35:03 PM
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I can run linux - Barely. Of my friends, about 15% could do the same. But I'm not sure I could use Bitcoin while running Linux. Guess I'll have to give it a try. Still, if we can't have secure BitWallets while running Windows on internet connected machines, how can I expect the 85% to adopt Bitcoin? The barriers remain a bit too high for widespread adoption, I think. Hope this changes. Is membership in teh Geek species mandatory? Am I offbase? Are we DOOMED?

Secure hardware wallets are coming to rescue. For example, Trezor. Trezor can be used with untrusted computer and it's safe.

Thanks. I get that it's an arms race, like predator-prey evolution. Maybe it can be fun...
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