Account Ban

[Moonu]

May I know why my account is banned?

As it states a reason that "Sorry moooonu, you are banned from posting or sending personal messages on this forum.
You have been banned by a forum moderator. You may appeal here: banappeals-w6pquw43@theymos.e4ward.com ."

Can any moderator have a look at this??

Link to.my profile: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=759551

[Moonu]

As I can see my past two topic created by me are deleted so that can be the reason for it.

But I have some proof of it:-

First of all I am a campaign manager not the developer nor a member in team of LixCoin.
Secondly, its elixir coin and elixir platform are two different things.
Third, as one of the team member of LixCoin talked to elixir coin's developer and they agreed.

https://imgur.com/a/1WRXD
 Here are some proofs.

Please have a look at the matter and do what's needful.

[AdolfinWolf]

As I can see my past two topic created by me are deleted so that can be the reason for it.

But I have some proof of it:-

First of all I am a campaign manager not the developer nor a member in team of LixCoin.
Secondly, its elixir coin and elixir platform are two different things.
Third, as one of the team member of LixCoin talked to elixir coin's developer and they agreed.

https://imgur.com/a/1WRXD
 Here are some proofs.

Please have a look at the matter and do what's needful.

You're probably (could be) banned due to the low effort posts you made.

Things such as:

"famous and oldest sites with altcoin are fortunejack and bitsler. There are many other sites too but I trust these two the most."

"Good to hear about your abilities. You should post about it in service section too. There you will find more users who like to have your services."

"As the admin is still new to the gambling industry and don't know much about gambling else than just coding. He should complete his knowledge first about about provably fair and how a gambling site works."

"Math can help you to stand a chance against the house. Math can make you last a little longer but in the end we all know that its house who wins. No matter what or how big mathematician you are. Probability always favor the house."

"Buying some altcoin with good market cap. Try your luck in buying domains. You can also trade XRP as you will get good amount of XRP with that 0.01btc."

"Wisest decision will be to buy some bitcoins and hold it till all of the bitcoins gets mined. I am keeping a small share of bitcoins each week as my share towards my future investment."

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=759551;sa=showPosts;start=20

I wouldn't necessarily argue that these are "shitposts", but they're pretty useless.. Might be the reason you're banned. See:

1. No zero or low value, pointless or uninteresting posts or threads. [1][e]

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.0

[Joel_Jantsen]

You're probably (could be) banned due to the low effort posts you made.

I don't recollect anyone getting banned for low quality posts.Unless of course they have exceeded their spamming limits.Like always the case,he would be banned for copy-pasting.This is just a rough guess but he will get an appropriate response from hilariousandco.

[Moonu]

Can any moderator have a look at my matter. It's urgent.

[Moonu]

The LixCoin I was managing changed their name and also started a new campaign https://gleam.io/BHfBu/the-lix-platform-48-dollar-tokens-giveaway
Here is their new Bounty thread with changed name: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2590854.0

Here is their ANN thread with changed name: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2574714.msg26225107#msg26225107

So everything is changed why I am still banned. There was a mistake from my side when I agreed to be their Bounty manager.

But now when everything is changed and genuine. Can the moderators please unban me?

Also, I want to point it out the If I am banned for posting duplicate thread then it is brought to your notice that when I realized that I made a duplicate thread which couldn't delete. I deleted its content and reported it to moderators mentioning that it was done by mistake. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2542373.msg25928202#msg25928202

Here is the link to my pm to theymos explaining about the whole situation
http://prntscr.com/hpghob

Hoping for the best

regards
moonu

[Brunus]

I'm impressed.
If even a Hero Member can be banned without any explanation, just after an arbitrary evaluation of someone about "low quality post", well...
it means that this is not a community, but a kind of North Korea or Ceausescu's Romania.
I don't know what to say, but to think that in any moment my account could be banned without apparent reason, make me very unconfortable.

[hilariousetc]

I'm impressed.
If even a Hero Member can be banned without any explanation, just after an arbitrary evaluation of someone about "low quality post", well...
it means that this is not a community, but a kind of North Korea or Ceausescu's Romania.
I don't know what to say, but to think that in any moment my account could be banned without apparent reason, make me very unconfortable.

Oh do shut up. People are banned for breaking the rules. It's not staff's fault if people don't read them. I would suggest you read the rules because the majority of your posts are shitposts in Off Topic and Politics which is a quick way to get yourself banned. I hope this is a clear enough warning for you.

Yours sincerely,

Kim Jong Un.

[Brunus]

I'm impressed.
If even a Hero Member can be banned without any explanation, just after an arbitrary evaluation of someone about "low quality post", well...
it means that this is not a community, but a kind of North Korea or Ceausescu's Romania.
I don't know what to say, but to think that in any moment my account could be banned without apparent reason, make me very unconfortable.

Oh do shut up. People are banned for breaking the rules. It's not staff's fault if people don't read them. I would suggest you read the rules because the majority of your posts are shitposts in Off Topic and Politics which is a quick way to get yourself banned. I hope this is a clear enough warning for you.

Yours sincerely,

Kim Jong Un.

That's ok, now I begin to understand something and I thank you for the warning, I'll take care; it's true the about all my post are in politics or off topic, because in other threads I try to learn and I still don't feel ready to give a a serious contribution.
But I'd like a better rank so it seems that the only way is to post something.

Just two questions:

1) who - and by what - decides if a post is a shit post? I don't think my post were pieces of genius, but...why "shitpost"?
2) if staff - and you, it seems - don't like politics and off topics, why this sections exists? May be a better choice could be to delete them.

In any case, as I said I try to understand what to do here; it's understandable that senior mebers are pissed off with "low quality post" but I don't thik you will educate newbees just banning them without explanation.
And - before to be banned (if it would be the case, I hope not) I'd like to be warned before.
Anyway thank you for the advice, I'll try to improve the quality of the post; I've enough to say about traditional trading, I'm just trying to figure how can I apply my expertise to crypto.
Have a nice day

[hilariousetc]

That's ok, now I begin to understand something and I thank you for the warning, I'll take care; it's true the about all my post are in politics or off topic, because in other threads I try to learn and I still don't feel ready to give a a serious contribution.
But I'd like a better rank so it seems that the only way is to post something.

If you're not here to contribute seriously then why are you here? And why do you care about a better rank so much? I'm guessing to move up in ranks for a bigger payout for your signature campaign, right? And this is exactly what's wrong with this forum and most of the users here. People sign up to this forum with only one intention in mind and that's to earn money even though they either don't know anything about bitcoin or care about it at all other than they heard you can get paid to post here, so people force themselves to post in threads they either know nothing about or make low quality contributions in the only threads they do know something about (which are usually spam threads created just for that entire purpose).

1) who - and by what - decides if a post is a shit post? I don't think my post were pieces of genius, but...why "shitpost"?

Staff do and the users that report them. Much like police who decide on who breaks the laws, we have our own laws aka rules here that staff try to enforce as best they can. Your posts are shitposts because they contribute very little and have very little thought or effort put into them and it's clear that you are just making them as fast as possible to try rank up your account.

2) if staff - and you, it seems - don't like politics and off topics, why this sections exists? May be a better choice could be to delete them.

It's not we don't like those boards but the shitposters who take advantage of them because they don't have anything else they can contribute to. You can have some very decent and intelligent discussions in Politics & Society, but then it also gets abused and threads taken over by shitposters who don't know anything about bitcoin but can talk all day about how they believe in god without actually having to make any decent arguments. You can make a very well thought out post on why you do or don't believe in god, but then you also just get hundreds of Filipino schoolkids just saying "yes I believe in god" or "I believe in god because the bible says so" and those contribute absolutely nothing and are made just to try farm their accounts so they can join a signature campaign asap.

In any case, as I said I try to understand what to do here; it's understandable that senior mebers are pissed off with "low quality post" but I don't thik you will educate newbees just banning them without explanation.
And - before to be banned (if it would be the case, I hope not) I'd like to be warned before.
Anyway thank you for the advice, I'll try to improve the quality of the post; I've enough to say about traditional trading, I'm just trying to figure how can I apply my expertise to crypto.

People sometimes do get warnings but people should also read the rules and stickies. Staff do not have time to give multiple warnings to every single person but it's up to users to educate themselves on what is and isn't acceptable here. The police don't come round to my house to tell me not to steal or murder and if I did any of those things I can't stand up in court and say "Well I didn't know". Same thing happens here when people copy content or other people's posts. You should know that this isn't acceptable but if you would have read the rules they would have already known this, but it's not Staff's job to warn every single user that get's caught doing it and if you're caught as per the rules you will be banned.

[Mountaingoat]

That is not Theymos's email address, he would never send you such an email.

It is a phising email.

[Brunus]

That's ok, now I begin to understand something and I thank you for the warning, I'll take care; it's true the about all my post are in politics or off topic, because in other threads I try to learn and I still don't feel ready to give a a serious contribution.
But I'd like a better rank so it seems that the only way is to post something.

If you're not here to contribute seriously then why are you here? And why do you care about a better rank so much? I'm guessing to move up in ranks for a bigger payout for your signature campaign, right? And this is exactly what's wrong with this forum and most of the users here. People sign up to this forum with only one intention in mind and that's to earn money even though they either don't know anything about bitcoin or care about it at all other than they heard you can get paid to post here, so people force themselves to post in threads they either know nothing about or make low quality contributions in the only threads they do know something about (which are usually spam threads created just for that entire purpose).

I just cut the quote, that it was too big.
Firstly, thank you to find the time for a so detalied answer. Admitely, I didn't understand the system: someone said to me "you can make a decent money just sending some messages", I checked, I saw a lot of people posting what you call shit posts, and I token the conclusion that this is the way things are working here. I was wrong and I'm happy that someone warned me before being banned.
As I said I've a limited experience in crypto, but a good and long one in forex, so I think I can give a good contribution.
I'll start to post in that section.
By the way, as you said, there is a structural problem: if there is a gain in posting garbage, it will be very difficult to stop low quality post.
May be, it could be a good idea if shit poster didn't receive any payment, but I understand that ICO managers don't have any interest to stop who promotes them.
Well, we'll see, thank you again for the advices.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

That is not Theymos's email address, he would never send you such an email.

It is a phising email.

It's not?  I could swear I've seen that email before, plus theymos didn't email this knucklehead, he PMed him as far as I can tell.  Good riddance in any case.  Nice to see 'em go down, even if it's one by one instead of in bulk.

[Mountaingoat]

That is not Theymos's email address, he would never send you such an email.

It is a phising email.

It's not?  I could swear I've seen that email before, plus theymos didn't email this knucklehead, he PMed him as far as I can tell.  Good riddance in any case.  Nice to see 'em go down, even if it's one by one instead of in bulk.

So you don't think that this email looks fishy at all:
banappeals-w6pquw43@theymos.e4ward.com

Anybody can make an email address on www.e4ward.com and if it was one of Theymos's addresses it would have been in his profile or signature.

[hilariousetc]

That's the email that's displayed when users are banned for people to contact, though I'm not sure if theymos even checks it as you'll often see people just creating threads in here complaining that after x amount of weeks/months they got no response after they e-mailed it. It would probably be best if he just changed it to tell them to post in Meta to be honest.

[Moonu]

Its been more than 3 weeks now and still no reply from admin or mods. I had expected better service.

[Flying Hellfish]

Its been more than 3 weeks now and still no reply from admin or mods. I had expected better service.

Ya the service round here is so bad you should probably get a refund for all the thousands of dollars you have put into the site and community...

[OriginTrain]

That's ok, now I begin to understand something and I thank you for the warning, I'll take care; it's true the about all my post are in politics or off topic, because in other threads I try to learn and I still don't feel ready to give a a serious contribution.
But I'd like a better rank so it seems that the only way is to post something.

If you're not here to contribute seriously then why are you here? And why do you care about a better rank so much? I'm guessing to move up in ranks for a bigger payout for your signature campaign, right? And this is exactly what's wrong with this forum and most of the users here. People sign up to this forum with only one intention in mind and that's to earn money even though they either don't know anything about bitcoin or care about it at all other than they heard you can get paid to post here, so people force themselves to post in threads they either know nothing about or make low quality contributions in the only threads they do know something about (which are usually spam threads created just for that entire purpose).

1) who - and by what - decides if a post is a shit post? I don't think my post were pieces of genius, but...why "shitpost"?

Staff do and the users that report them. Much like police who decide on who breaks the laws, we have our own laws aka rules here that staff try to enforce as best they can. Your posts are shitposts because they contribute very little and have very little thought or effort put into them and it's clear that you are just making them as fast as possible to try rank up your account.

2) if staff - and you, it seems - don't like politics and off topics, why this sections exists? May be a better choice could be to delete them.

It's not we don't like those boards but the shitposters who take advantage of them because they don't have anything else they can contribute to. You can have some very decent and intelligent discussions in Politics & Society, but then it also gets abused and threads taken over by shitposters who don't know anything about bitcoin but can talk all day about how they believe in god without actually having to make any decent arguments. You can make a very well thought out post on why you do or don't believe in god, but then you also just get hundreds of Filipino schoolkids just saying "yes I believe in god" or "I believe in god because the bible says so" and those contribute absolutely nothing and are made just to try farm their accounts so they can join a signature campaign asap.

In any case, as I said I try to understand what to do here; it's understandable that senior mebers are pissed off with "low quality post" but I don't thik you will educate newbees just banning them without explanation.
And - before to be banned (if it would be the case, I hope not) I'd like to be warned before.
Anyway thank you for the advice, I'll try to improve the quality of the post; I've enough to say about traditional trading, I'm just trying to figure how can I apply my expertise to crypto.

People sometimes do get warnings but people should also read the rules and stickies. Staff do not have time to give multiple warnings to every single person but it's up to users to educate themselves on what is and isn't acceptable here. The police don't come round to my house to tell me not to steal or murder and if I did any of those things I can't stand up in court and say "Well I didn't know". Same thing happens here when people copy content or other people's posts. You should know that this isn't acceptable but if you would have read the rules they would have already known this, but it's not Staff's job to warn every single user that get's caught doing it and if you're caught as per the rules you will be banned.

What's your opinion on the new paid member ranks such as Copper Member to help alleviate this sort of spam? I gather people shit post in Politics & Off Topic etc (places prohibited in signature campaigns) just to get their rank up. If someone purchases a membership and then restricts their posting purely to areas related to altcoins (such as altcoin discussion, announcements etc) and keeps away from the rest of the board, do you think this is better overall or does it still detract from the forum? I'm just trying to understand where the balance could be struck.

[hilariousetc]

What's your opinion on the new paid member ranks such as Copper Member to help alleviate this sort of spam? I gather people shit post in Politics & Off Topic etc (places prohibited in signature campaigns) just to get their rank up. If someone purchases a membership and then restricts their posting purely to areas related to altcoins (such as altcoin discussion, announcements etc) and keeps away from the rest of the board, do you think this is better overall or does it still detract from the forum? I'm just trying to understand where the balance could be struck.

Paid memberships that are the only way you can have a signature are one of the things I've suggested to combat spam/poor posts and I'm hoping theymos implements further ranks such as Silver & Gold and at some point. I don't think we should limit users to only posting in alt coin boards but if all users who sign up here can't have a signature (or only a very small one) unless they purchase it like they do with Copper Membership I think it will have a significant effect on low quality posts. People farming dozens to hundreds of accounts to exploit signature campaigns will be a thing of the past and everyone will be limited to only the amount of accounts they can afford or deem profitable to use. Theymos doesn't seem too keen on removing signatures altogether but I can't see any good reason why we can't allow them alongside being able to rank up naturally or make an additional "premium" rank with added benefits that can only be acquired by donating. The latter would be a good experiment on its own to see how many people go for it.

[luha2018]

I'm impressed.
If even a Hero Member can be banned without any explanation, just after an arbitrary evaluation of someone about "low quality post", well...
it means that this is not a community, but a kind of North Korea or Ceausescu's Romania.
I don't know what to say, but to think that in any moment my account could be banned without apparent reason, make me very unconfortable.

Oh do shut up. People are banned for breaking the rules. It's not staff's fault if people don't read them. I would suggest you read the rules because the majority of your posts are shitposts in Off Topic and Politics which is a quick way to get yourself banned. I hope this is a clear enough warning for you.

Yours sincerely,

Kim Jong Un.

I just want to know why you state that you may appeal but there is no response from admin? I do not know why rynah011991 was banned? I believe that my post is good quality. Please response. Thank you