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December 12, 2017, 01:09:21 AM
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Bitcoin fees are skyrocketing!!!

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/12/bitcoin-fees-are-skyrocketing/

The fees are going to continue to rise


Is it possible that the fee to send .001-.01 BTC will become higher than the actual BTC is worth?  Shocked




*** confirmed update: 12/12/2017 the cost to send .001BTC is now more than it is actually worth!!!!
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December 12, 2017, 01:19:19 AM
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Is it possible that the fee to send .001-.01 BTC will become higher than the actual BTC is worth?  Shocked

In theory, it could be. But only if there are that many transactions that have to be first in a block. But practically speaking, a good number of BTC users would prefer to wait and pay for a cheaper fee or wait for the unconfirmed transactions to go down.

Having said that, I wouldnt worry about it.
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December 12, 2017, 01:37:14 AM
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But practically speaking, a good number of BTC users would prefer to wait and pay for a cheaper fee or wait for the unconfirmed transactions to go down.

Right. But lets say, hypothetically, the price of BTC starts to crash. And so many people are cashing out that the fees to cash out .001 BTC - .01 BTC are more than the BTC is worth. Couldn't that become a problem with liquidity and cause addresses with small investments to lose it all? Keep in mind I am speaking in hypothetical terms of there being some type of crash or major sell off.
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December 12, 2017, 01:37:27 AM
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Is it possible that the fee to send .001-.01 BTC will become higher than the actual BTC is worth?  Shocked

In theory, it could be. But only if there are that many transactions that have to be first in a block. But practically speaking, a good number of BTC users would prefer to wait and pay for a cheaper fee or wait for the unconfirmed transactions to go down.

Having said that, I wouldnt worry about it.

While feasible it is almost impossible in practice because no one would pay such a fee unless there were some really extreme and unusual circumstances. As a norm it will just never be the case. Fees will probably decrease over time as bitcoin advances and scalability measures are introduced. Fees only get large when there is a mad rush of investment etc.

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December 12, 2017, 03:05:42 AM
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Lets say you have 1BTC = $17000

But the fees get so high that to send 1BTC it cost 2BTC. That means you would only be able to send .33BTC after fees. If fees keep growing this will cut directly into profits.
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December 12, 2017, 03:09:38 AM
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I think we need 12mb blocksize so that transaction will confirm faster to avoid this high fees....but i think when the block reward is over..the fees will be more higher as miner will only depends on this fees for income to their service
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December 12, 2017, 03:11:44 AM
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Yes it is possible that transactions fees can get higher than bitcoins price but i don't think so that if this ever happen people would stop using bitcoins and wuld swift to other crypto currency like ethereum as it has fast transactions speed with low fees.
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December 12, 2017, 03:15:49 AM
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Lets say you have 1BTC = $17000

But the fees get so high that to send 1BTC it cost 2BTC. That means you would only be able to send .33BTC after fees. If fees keep growing this will cut directly into profits.

it will never be that high because you are forgetting about the "willingness" of people who are paying these fees. people are not going to pay $12 to make a bitcoin transaction, how are you expecting them to pay $34,000 to do it Cheesy

at some point, it will be high for most people who will stop paying it. they will either pay a lower fee and wait or stop sending bitcoin all at once. this will lead to fees coming down or at least stay at some level.

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December 12, 2017, 03:23:19 AM
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Actually it could. There will be a technology called "lightning" that will hasten the transaction fees regarding bitcoins. With that said, transaction fees will increase but its not a big deal because one can always wait for a better transaction.
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December 12, 2017, 03:33:42 AM
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Lets say you have 1BTC = $17000

But the fees get so high that to send 1BTC it cost 2BTC. That means you would only be able to send .33BTC after fees. If fees keep growing this will cut directly into profits.

it will never be that high because you are forgetting about the "willingness" of people who are paying these fees. people are not going to pay $12 to make a bitcoin transaction, how are you expecting them to pay $34,000 to do it Cheesy

at some point, it will be high for most people who will stop paying it. they will either pay a lower fee and wait or stop sending bitcoin all at once. this will lead to fees coming down or at least stay at some level.

True. But don't forget about the "special" category of bitcoin users: the people that are also unwilling to pay high fees, but pay the high fees anyway as they are unaware about the blockchain being currently congested (Coinbase users, usually). They send bitcoin to a non-coinbase wallet then they get shocked why they only received far less bitcoin than the amount they sent. We see them usually complaining about it here and on Reddit. Cheesy

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December 12, 2017, 05:15:41 AM
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I fear the fees will get so high that people will stop using bitcoin altogether
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December 13, 2017, 12:13:02 AM
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The rise in transaction fees is just ridiculous. I am pretty sure the fees are being increased just to deter bitcoin holders from selling. The fees were around $25 yesterday to send $100. And today the fees around $35! Wake up people, fees are going to continue to rise as prices rise. And since you need to pay the fees to send, it will start to cut into profits or at least represent some of the price rise.
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December 13, 2017, 12:17:25 AM
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I was just explaining in another thread that my fees in fact did reach a level that was almost the price of the bit coin I was sending in the first place. There’s got to be a way to circumvent some of these fees or this is a huge turn off for the bitcoin community. Some of the smaller community members are not able to freely move the bed going around the fees being This high.
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December 13, 2017, 12:22:02 AM
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This really sucks and the fee will eventually hinders bitcoin if not fixed. Recently the fee has increase 3-4 folds and it becomes ridiculous.
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December 13, 2017, 12:25:40 AM
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The fees are so high that Bitcoin will only become an investment instrument and not as it was planned for payment method.
However, I'm sure, that the developers will soon introduce updates to change this - I personally look forward to the Lightning Network. Time will show where it will hit..
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December 13, 2017, 12:29:43 AM
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Btc cash and other coins who claim a strong place in market are having a strategy to reduce the fees to minimum and I guess it will affect also btc by making it to consider a decrease in fees.
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December 13, 2017, 12:29:56 AM
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Bitcoin fees are skyrocketing!!!

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/12/bitcoin-fees-are-skyrocketing/

The fees are going to continue to rise


Is it possible that the fee to send .001-.01 BTC will become higher than the actual BTC is worth?  Shocked

if this problem is not fixed, maybe the fee of sending bitcoin to another wallet will worth 0.001 or more.
Everytimethe price higher, the fee increase. So i think our income just ready to pay the fee. Our effort to trade bitcoi  is nothing when we pay high fee. I hope this fee problem can be solved soon because i love bitcoin anyway.
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December 13, 2017, 12:44:06 AM
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This is scary for small investors...  Cry

It seems like all the small investors are going to get "wiped out". Because the fees to transfer such small amounts of $1-$50 worth of BTC is now becoming more than the actual bitcoin is worth. BTC is becoming more like a Western Union (high fees to transfer money) for criminals and a value storage for people with large amounts of BTC. But it is no longer a feasible currency for the millions of people who own small amounts and have supported the growth. It is quite sad to see
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December 13, 2017, 01:06:28 AM
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So if the fees went up $10 in just one day...

$24 to $34.

How much are the fees going to be next week? I fear the fees will reach $1000s of dollars and it will force all the small investors out. No one will be able to sell their bitcoin because it will cost too much to do so
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December 13, 2017, 01:11:11 AM
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Great damage that makes the bitcoin ecosystem these high fees, the good thing is that there are some alternatives, if this is triggered we can use other crypto that in time the bitcoin fee will have to decrease.
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