is the martingale working or not ?

[Hhampuz]

Of course it feels like you never see 10 in a row in live roulette games... that happens about once in 1,000+ games, with house edge of land-based casinos a lot higher, almost 1,100 games I think. So have you sat at any roulette table long enough for 1100 games? Even if one spin of the wheel takes a minute (it takes more), we're talking about you stting down for almost 20 hours at best. More likely 24 hours with changing of dealer and breaks.

Online, with a roughly 50% chance on dice, the same 1,000 rolls takes a fraction of the time, so it's easy to roll enough times to see plenty of long streaks. I've seen above 15 frequently enough to know that martingale works... until it doesn't. Numbers eventually don't lie, and even if you think you're due a break, variance gets you in the end.

That's why martingale (eventually) doesn't work. Also, even if you had unlimited funds, the house has a maximum bet.

Yep it is a rarity although I've witnessed it a few times, Both live and online. Worst for me was online where it hit Black 17 times in a row and this was when I was trying out the martingale system for the first time.. Needless to say it broke my bank hahaha. Longest streak live was 10 or 11 I believe, also Black. For some reason it does seem like Black comes in a lot more often than Red with the crazy streaks.. Hmm.

I've not visited land-based casinos much, but when I do, always at Black Jack with one or two others. Poker is never popular where I've visited so once am done losing at cards, I invariably end up watching roulette. What I've noticed at land-based in Malaysia, Sri Lanka, Seychelles, UK and Netherlands (where I've been), they're set up so martingale fails very quickly.

At roulette tables, because of min and max bet, will rarely allow you to do martingale of more than 7 or 8 streaks. Commonly, where the minimum is $0.1, the max is $200, and they'll never let you put the minimum on the 2/1 payouts. The "best" I've seen is $1 min, $200 max for 2/1, so you're stuck at a 8-streak simple Martingale - common enough to find.

Because of that, if I'm playing for fun, I wait for 3 or 4 streaks to appear before betting against it. It's a stupid way to risk several hundred dollars bankroll to win $1

Indeed I've witnessed the same things, and not only at land-based casinos,  a lot of online ones have started with those limits as well only giving you 10-11 chances at martingale, which means you'll eventually lose out if you play long enough .

And yeah I usually always end up at the roulette table as well but I'm always betting numbers.. Don't care too much about the colors . All for fun ofc.

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[EdenHazard]

Nope. The sooner you realize it the better for you. I'll say even more, if you are playing UNskill games like roullete, dice or slots you'll end up losing some day, bar you a are genius at maths. 

Generally this all strategy does not work much in the longer run. Because if you tend to play for long hours and regularly it is you who is going to make loss and gambling site/casinos to make profits due to which they are still surviving today as well. So better just enjoy the game for fun and not for the wealth.

yes martingale maybe work if you do it for once or twice , not continuously.

10 losing streaks and 11th times you won it. you should leave and not to try it out again in the future. martingale never work when you force yourself to want more winning. do martingale and walk away after you have received a good winning. otherwise you will always suffering lost in the end.

[bering]

i think everybody here had experience playing dice with martingale method and won but that's only for temporary because martingale method will works if you're have good luck but very unfortunate this method usually cannot be repeated and with 10 or 20 losing streak will destroy this method and rapidly you will losing your money

[serjent05]

Nope. The sooner you realize it the better for you. I'll say even more, if you are playing UNskill games like roullete, dice or slots you'll end up losing some day, bar you a are genius at maths. 

Generally this all strategy does not work much in the longer run. Because if you tend to play for long hours and regularly it is you who is going to make loss and gambling site/casinos to make profits due to which they are still surviving today as well. So better just enjoy the game for fun and not for the wealth.

yes martingale maybe work if you do it for once or twice , not continuously.

10 losing streaks and 11th times you won it. you should leave and not to try it out again in the future. martingale never work when you force yourself to want more winning. do martingale and walk away after you have received a good winning. otherwise you will always suffering lost in the end.

I agree, if you happen to have a long series of loses and you won, better not to continue, best thing to do is to stop and quit.  I had experience this kind of scenario several times, and the thing I observed is that.. if we push our luck with martingale method, we end up losing.  It seems the house have a limiter on this kind of strategy.  So the thing is.. martingale works but not for a long session gambling.

[Fatanut]

The only time martingale (or any other gambling strategy) will work is when you have unlimited amount of money and the maximum bet amount in the website that you are playing in is also unlimited. First, no one has an unlimited amount of money because money is still limited despite of the ridiculous quantity that it has. Secondly, all websites have their maximum bet amount. Well honestly even if they don't have, your money isn't unlimited anyways.

For the amount that you're going to earn for every time you hit Green, the capital that you're going to be needing is just too much. You can't only recover 10 losses, you have to be able to recover a lot more. And since the growth of the bet amount for every time you lose is exponential (x2 x2 x2), then the capital has to be around basebet * (2^20 + 2^19 + 2^18...) and so on. That's a lot of money.

So to answer your question.. Martingale doesn't work just like how any other betting techniques don't work. They were all made by delusional people that thought they can take down a gambling site using a particular algorithm. If there's a technique that actually works, gambling sites will simply counter it. It is even possible that martingale used to work for some time so they increased the amount of loss streak a user can have so they would need bigger, unlimited even, bank rolls.

[Sangkuni]

is there any way to play the martingale in dice sites ?
any system /
getting 10 loses in a row in a dice site is very common

but how about live roulette i never seen 10 in a row red or black
roulette is also random  . dice is also random  if i go to play 20 minutes in a dice site getting 6 in a row loses is big chance
but with  roulette it is rare to get 8-10 in a raw loses even if is spend 4 - 10 hours in the table

if both is random why dice games so common in raw loses

1.bro if u play roullete in online casino(but not live betting) u can saw 10 losses in a row in red/black...cause, one round on a live roulette game can take up to 10 minutes
2.from my experience in online dice game..sometime i saw 30 red in po 2x(49.5% chance) luckily i just betting with small amount of dogecoin lol

*cmiiw

[Hell-raiser]

is there any way to play the martingale in dice sites ?
any system /
getting 10 loses in a row in a dice site is very common

but how about live roulette i never seen 10 in a row red or black
roulette is also random  . dice is also random  if i go to play 20 minutes in a dice site getting 6 in a row loses is big chance
but with  roulette it is rare to get 8-10 in a raw loses even if is spend 4 - 10 hours in the table

if both is random why dice games so common in raw loses

A short answer is no, it doesn't work, and it looks like there have been a pretty long thread with a thorough discussion of this topic, so if you are really interested in understanding why martingale can't and won't work, you should read it first. And then, probably, you wouldn't have to ask this question again. Anyway, most dice sites nowadays have set a minimum bet amount way above 1 satoshi, while having a losing streak of 20 bets at 50% probability, which roughly matches black and red, is not uncommon, so you shouldn't really expect this system to be of any use at dice sites.

[BillCoin]

The only time martingale (or any other gambling strategy) will work is when you have unlimited amount of money and the maximum bet amount in the website that you are playing in is also unlimited. First, no one has an unlimited amount of money because money is still limited despite of the ridiculous quantity that it has. Secondly, all websites have their maximum bet amount. Well honestly even if they don't have, your money isn't unlimited anyways.

For the amount that you're going to earn for every time you hit Green, the capital that you're going to be needing is just too much. You can't only recover 10 losses, you have to be able to recover a lot more. And since the growth of the bet amount for every time you lose is exponential (x2 x2 x2), then the capital has to be around basebet * (2^20 + 2^19 + 2^18...) and so on. That's a lot of money.

So to answer your question.. Martingale doesn't work just like how any other betting techniques don't work. They were all made by delusional people that thought they can take down a gambling site using a particular algorithm. If there's a technique that actually works, gambling sites will simply counter it. It is even possible that martingale used to work for some time so they increased the amount of loss streak a user can have so they would need bigger, unlimited even, bank rolls.

Yes, and it's really funny, because if you have an unlimited anount of money, then why would you even need to bet at all.
Maritiangle main goal is to profit the starting bet, which means that after a succesful round you are going to end up with your Previous Stack+Starting bet.
If your Previous stack is unlimited, then even if you end up succeeding in the round, your stack will remains unlimited, so even if you have an unlimted amount of money you are still not gaining anything.

[nydiacaskey01]

If you chances of winning is set to 50/50 then thats 50/50, no martingale can change the outcome of your bet. I think even in real life gambling martingale will not work, it will just push you to bet some more until you are able to beat the house but will lose again, its a cycle that will not make you notice how much money you are losing already because you are more focused on applying the strategy.

[romero121]

Martingale strategy works with gambling, at the same time it is not that effective with every event. We can make use of the martingale strategy, this doesn't mean that implementating the strategy will give promised growth. This can be used as an opportunity to get out of loss, but winning is not assured.

[Oilacris]

is there any way to play the martingale in dice sites ?
any system /
getting 10 loses in a row in a dice site is very common

but how about live roulette i never seen 10 in a row red or black
roulette is also random  . dice is also random  if i go to play 20 minutes in a dice site getting 6 in a row loses is big chance
but with  roulette it is rare to get 8-10 in a raw loses even if is spend 4 - 10 hours in the table

if both is random why dice games so common in raw loses

Talking about the duration of results then dice would really be more faster than on roullettes which it is really prone or do have high chance on reaching out 10 losing streaks in a short period of time.The thing on here when we do play dice is that we can do make set on the lowest possible base bet which is usually on 1 - 10 sats unlike on roulletes base bets are high but actually i havent still experienced being hit by 10 losing streak on this game.

[Hell-raiser]

The only time martingale (or any other gambling strategy) will work is when you have unlimited amount of money and the maximum bet amount in the website that you are playing in is also unlimited. First, no one has an unlimited amount of money because money is still limited despite of the ridiculous quantity that it has. Secondly, all websites have their maximum bet amount. Well honestly even if they don't have, your money isn't unlimited anyways.

For the amount that you're going to earn for every time you hit Green, the capital that you're going to be needing is just too much. You can't only recover 10 losses, you have to be able to recover a lot more. And since the growth of the bet amount for every time you lose is exponential (x2 x2 x2), then the capital has to be around basebet * (2^20 + 2^19 + 2^18...) and so on. That's a lot of money.

So to answer your question.. Martingale doesn't work just like how any other betting techniques don't work. They were all made by delusional people that thought they can take down a gambling site using a particular algorithm. If there's a technique that actually works, gambling sites will simply counter it. It is even possible that martingale used to work for some time so they increased the amount of loss streak a user can have so they would need bigger, unlimited even, bank rolls.

Yes, and it's really funny, because if you have an unlimited anount of money, then why would you even need to bet at all.
Maritiangle main goal is to profit the starting bet, which means that after a succesful round you are going to end up with your Previous Stack+Starting bet

This is certainly not the only way of using the martingale approach. You may tweak it and set the amount you bet each round in such a way that you win twice as much as you lose at previous rounds combined. Indeed, in this way you may run out of money faster, but it at least makes sense and you can start rolling at the lowest allowed amount at that. Though I definitely agree with you that if you have unlimited funds, you can just buy the casino itself and get done with that.

[gabmen]

For you to be able to maximize martingale, you have to have a very big capital because you're just going to waste money if not. And even with a big capital, you're not assured that your last bet result would be positive. Martingale is flawed nomatter what people say about it. The more you play the bigger your chances of losing all your money

[paul00]

For you to be able to maximize martingale, you have to have a very big capital because you're just going to waste money if not. And even with a big capital, you're not assured that your last bet result would be positive. Martingale is flawed nomatter what people say about it. The more you play the bigger your chances of losing all your money

I agree even to you that even if we had a lot of money we to roll there are no assurance that we will gain profit and most of the time we ended busted. So i can say martingle is a fail strategy me myself tried it and I ended busted.

[hubballi]

is there any way to play the martingale in dice sites ?
any system /
getting 10 loses in a row in a dice site is very common

but how about live roulette i never seen 10 in a row red or black
roulette is also random  . dice is also random  if i go to play 20 minutes in a dice site getting 6 in a row loses is big chance
but with  roulette it is rare to get 8-10 in a raw loses even if is spend 4 - 10 hours in the table

if both is random why dice games so common in raw loses

I dont agree with you, as if you are playing in martingale then all games will come to loss at the end and their will be one result for 10 or 20 streaks also. You are lucky that you did not faced this problem in roulette game.

[damir10]

Martingale is not a smart investment method. If you are in a bad run, 8-9 loss in a row, than you might stake 1000unit to win 10-20 unit.. Just cover your losses..

It is better to split your stakes or create %2-%3-%4 Stakes, depends on your Bankroll.

[flower1024]

is there any way to play the martingale in dice sites ?
any system /
getting 10 loses in a row in a dice site is very common

but how about live roulette i never seen 10 in a row red or black
roulette is also random  . dice is also random  if i go to play 20 minutes in a dice site getting 6 in a row loses is big chance
but with  roulette it is rare to get 8-10 in a raw loses even if is spend 4 - 10 hours in the table

if both is random why dice games so common in raw loses

I dont agree with you, as if you are playing in martingale then all games will come to loss at the end and their will be one result for 10 or 20 streaks also. You are lucky that you did not faced this problem in the roulette game.

Martingale strategy is not work in any format of gambling games this is true, but i think in roulette game you will not get more loses like how we get in a dice game. I did not try this in an online game, but in offline game surely you will win back your loss in 5 or 6 moves. But making a profit is difficult you can enjoy your time that's it.

[iv4n]

is there any way to play the martingale in dice sites ?
any system /
getting 10 loses in a row in a dice site is very common

but how about live roulette i never seen 10 in a row red or black
roulette is also random  . dice is also random  if i go to play 20 minutes in a dice site getting 6 in a row loses is big chance
but with  roulette it is rare to get 8-10 in a raw loses even if is spend 4 - 10 hours in the table

if both is random why dice games so common in raw loses

I dont agree with you, as if you are playing in martingale then all games will come to loss at the end and their will be one result for 10 or 20 streaks also. You are lucky that you did not faced this problem in the roulette game.

Martingale strategy is not work in any format of gambling games this is true, but i think in roulette game you will not get more loses like how we get in a dice game. I did not try this in an online game, but in offline game surely you will win back your loss in 5 or 6 moves. But making a profit is difficult you can enjoy your time that's it.

I played roulette and I place a bet on red, it was black. In next 20 and more roulette spins I saw 4 time's green zero and the rest were black. I lost more then 0.4 BTC in that time, that was long time ago, and I believe you can find more about it in some of my comments. My last bet was around 0.15 BTC, all that is left and I started with 100 satoshis bet of I remember correctly.
Martingale works for some time, but sooner or later you will experience in long losing streak, in most of the games, there is no rule when will it happen and on which odds.

[beerlover]

I think martingale is not working in any gambling games, martingale is the way of betting, not depend on the games, we have see a lot of streak lose in dice sites because we played it many times when you play roulette with the same amount I think you will see many streak lose

I have try a lot of games with martingale and all result is the same, and the worst game to used martingale is sportbet

Martingale is just a strategy to double up bet until you get a winning game and everything still balls down on the bank roll of the gambler and the starting amount for a bet and just like you have said, long streaks is all that it would take to clear out the whole money in the gambler's account. There is absolutely no strategy that can help in such cases and the only thing to rely on is luck and knows that you are only playing a game with a lot of chances that you can easily lose.

Usually, nothing works in gambling except your luck and the fact that you cannot always beat the house edge as your chances are quite slim is enough to let anyone know that it should be a no go area if you are thinking of making profit or earning because it is not an investment but a game and you can lose bad.

All people have tried martingale and the only thing it can do is to reduce your chances to may be play dice for a long time before you get nabbed, but that does not mean long streaks of losses cannot just easily get you nabbed.

[mrcash02]

I think martingale is not working in any gambling games, martingale is the way of betting, not depend on the games, we have see a lot of streak lose in dice sites because we played it many times when you play roulette with the same amount I think you will see many streak lose

I have try a lot of games with martingale and all result is the same, and the worst game to used martingale is sportbet

Martingale is just a strategy to double up bet until you get a winning game and everything still balls down on the bank roll of the gambler and the starting amount for a bet and just like you have said, long streaks is all that it would take to clear out the whole money in the gambler's account. There is absolutely no strategy that can help in such cases and the only thing to rely on is luck and knows that you are only playing a game with a lot of chances that you can easily lose.

Usually, nothing works in gambling except your luck and the fact that you cannot always beat the house edge as your chances are quite slim is enough to let anyone know that it should be a no go area if you are thinking of making profit or earning because it is not an investment but a game and you can lose bad.

All people have tried martingale and the only thing it can do is to reduce your chances to may be play dice for a long time before you get nabbed, but that does not mean long streaks of losses cannot just easily get you nabbed.

Yes, that is inevitable. If there weren't house edge it could be possible to have more balanced chances to make profit on long term with Martingale. On the currently situation you don't depend only on luck to make profit, so it's a worthless effort to keep playing hoping to make profit and recover previous losses. Gambling games were very well determinated to give house profit and to take money from most gamblers in a legit way.