Ledger Nano invalid recovery phrase after update. help. Reward - 0.5 BCH!

[pirst]

Hi guys,
I did an update for my ledger nano and wanted to claim btc cash.
update it self wasn't smooth. stuck on my windows 7 so i had to finish on macbook (recomended on ledger site).
When i was trying to recover wallet after typing 24 words it says invalid recovery phrase.
I know i didnt make mistake when i was writing down them, tripple checked
Now i remember on the screen before updating was something saying that update can take up to 24h.
anyone had something like that?
thanks

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[bob123]

Any updates on the nano s usually don't take longer than 30 seconds. And no way they take up to 24 hours.
If it says invalid recovery phrase this means that at least one of your words is not in the BIP39 word list used to generate those seeds.
You could compare the BIP39 word list with the words you have written down (https://github.com/iancoleman/bip39).
If one from the words you have written down is not in this list you can try to replace it with similar looking words and try out if this works for you.

[pirst]

my one is just nano, old one.
all words are correct as i said i checked 3 times after i wrote them down.
is it possible restart wallet or back to old software?
also maybe i need to buy new nano s and do recovery on new one..
thanks for reply

[bob123]

You can theoretically install the old firmware again. But this won't get you any further since your seed still will shown as invalid.

Did you do what i recommended you to do?

You could compare the BIP39 word list with the words you have written down (https://github.com/iancoleman/bip39).
If one from the words you have written down is not in this list you can try to replace it with similar looking words and try out if this works for you.

Are all words in this list: https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0039/english.txt ?

If no: There you go, you misstyped 1 word
If yes: This probably won't be the case. If this really should be the case and ledger broke their old nano wallets with a new update or your device is somehow 'broken',
then you can throw your 24 word seed into a BIP39 mnemonic seed calculator (only do this offline!) and look up some addresses which have coins on it.
Afterwards just export those private keys and import them into a new wallet.

[HCP]

There are a couple of possible causes:

1. You have non BIP39 words written down in your 24 words.
2. You have BIP39 words, but in the wrong order.
3. You have the wrong BIP39 words.
4. The firmware is bad.

#1 is easy enough to check... do as bob123 suggested and make sure all your words are in the BIP39 wordlist

I've seen cases of #2 caused by someone filling the recovery sheet in the wrong order... it is two columns of 12 numbers, (ie. 1-12 and 13-24 going DOWN then across) like this:

1    13
2    14
3    15
4    16
5    17
6    18
7    19
8    20
9    21
10  22
11  23
12  24

... but some people write their seed as 12 rows of 2 (ie. going ACROSS then down) on the recovery sheet...

1    2
3    4
5    6
7    8
9    10
11  12
13  14
15  16
17  18
19  20
21  22
23  24

but the recovery sheet is still numbered in columns going down... so when they are asked to type it in, they get the words in the wrong order!!

#3 is pretty common, as there are a LOT of very similar words in the word list... kid, kind, kit, kite, then, them etc. It can be VERY easy to get these mixed up. gurnec's seed recovery can help with this: https://github.com/gurnec/btcrecover/blob/master/docs/Seedrecover_Quick_Start_Guide.md

#4 would be relatively rare... one would assume Ledger would do quite thorough testing before releasing a new firmware to prevent this sort of thing from happening. Although, given that your update didn't go well... it is possible the firmware is corrupted in some way. Maybe try and redo the firmware update so that you can be sure there are no issues.

[Boinguyen]

Hi HCP could you please help me to recover the last word of my recovery seed?
From word number 1-23 im pretty sure its in exactly order, that the word number 23 is last word. Im pretty sure. Right now i cant find a simple solution to check the position of the missing word and what the word was. Could you please help me to find the correct seed that have the address of my coin i will pay you.
Thank you very much , i hope you see his because i have been so desperate the past few days

[bob123]

Hi HCP could you please help me to recover the last word of my recovery seed?
From word number 1-23 im pretty sure its in exactly order, that the word number 23 is last word. Im pretty sure. Right now i cant find a simple solution to check the position of the missing word and what the word was. Could you please help me to find the correct seed that have the address of my coin i will pay you.

You can use the btcrecover tool: https://github.com/gurnec/btcrecover/.
Or to be more precise the seedrecovery.py: https://github.com/gurnec/btcrecover/blob/master/docs/Seedrecover_Quick_Start_Guide.md

This tool checks your seed for mistakes and tries to replace the wrong word.
The safest would be if you read yourself into installing/setting up the seedrecovery tool.
If you aren't able to set it up properly you should try to find a reputable(!) and honest person on this forum to do this for you for a small fee.

[HCP]

Pretty much exactly what I advised via PM

Unfortunately, installing and setting up Python, while not overly complicated, isn't exactly a "point and click" operation...

I've found a short YouTube clip that demonstrates installing and configuring the system Path variable on Windows here: https://youtu.be/QYUBz4mrnFU

Following that should allow most people to get Python 2.7 installed (DON'T install Python 3!!) and setup with "pip"... On Windows 7 systems.

Note: It'll mostly work the same with Windows 10, just the "environment variable setup" is a bit different. Click "start", click "settings" icon (little cog icon just above start button) and then in the search box, type "environment"... It will show a link to "edit system environment variables"... Which brings up the same dialog box as shown in the video

[Boinguyen]

Hi HCP could you please help me to recover the last word of my recovery seed?
From word number 1-23 im pretty sure its in exactly order, that the word number 23 is last word. Im pretty sure. Right now i cant find a simple solution to check the position of the missing word and what the word was. Could you please help me to find the correct seed that have the address of my coin i will pay you.

You can use the btcrecover tool: https://github.com/gurnec/btcrecover/.
Or to be more precise the seedrecovery.py: https://github.com/gurnec/btcrecover/blob/master/docs/Seedrecover_Quick_Start_Guide.md

This tool checks your seed for mistakes and tries to replace the wrong word.
The safest would be if you read yourself into installing/setting up the seedrecovery tool.
If you aren't able to set it up properly you should try to find a reputable(!) and honest person on this forum to do this for you for a small fee.

Im not trying to replace incorrect words or anything. Its just this i have all 23 words right now in correct order. My problem is that i dont exactly know what the missing word is and its position inbetween from 1-23
Could you tell me is there anyone else that could help me with this, because im feeling so desperate for the past few days. Thank you very much

[bob123]

Im not trying to replace incorrect words or anything. Its just this i have all 23 words right now in correct order. My problem is that i dont exactly know what the missing word is and its position inbetween from 1-23
Could you tell me is there anyone else that could help me with this, because im feeling so desperate for the past few days. Thank you very much

You could iterate the 'wrong-world-role' between those 24 positions, running the script 24 times.
Its just 24 times slower than the 'normal usage'.. its still doable (and pretty straight forward).

[Boinguyen]

Im not trying to replace incorrect words or anything. Its just this i have all 23 words right now in correct order. My problem is that i dont exactly know what the missing word is and its position inbetween from 1-23
Could you tell me is there anyone else that could help me with this, because im feeling so desperate for the past few days. Thank you very much

You could iterate the 'wrong-world-role' between those 24 positions, running the script 24 times.
Its just 24 times slower than the 'normal usage'.. its still doable (and pretty straight forward).

Sorry for my ingronant i dont understand most of what you were saying, sorry!
Could you please say it in simple english??
Is there any scripts that i can run to find the correct position as well as the word that have the address cointaned my coins??
Thanks

[bob123]

Could you please say it in simple english??
Is there any scripts that i can run to find the correct position as well as the word that have the address cointaned my coins??
Thanks

Like written earlier, this tool:

You can use the btcrecover tool: https://github.com/gurnec/btcrecover/.
Or to be more precise the seedrecovery.py: https://github.com/gurnec/btcrecover/blob/master/docs/Seedrecover_Quick_Start_Guide.md

can check all possible words if you got 1 word wrong.

Now, since you have 23 words.. you could call that 23 correct words + 1 wrong word.
Now try to make 24 seeds with your 23 correct words and your 1 wrong word starting at position 1, moving always one to the right.
So your second seed to check has the wrong word in the 2nd position, your third seed in the 3rd position, and so on..

Afterwards you run the script mentionoed above on all 24 seeds. The script will replace the wrong word with all possible words (for each of your 24 possible missing word-positions).


As far as i know there is no script yet which does exactly this. But you can easily do this 'by hand' or write a small python script by yourself which
calls the recovery-script 24 time with different seeds. If you are not a 'friend of computer' at all:

If you aren't able to set it up properly you should try to find a reputable(!) and honest person on this forum to do this for you for a small fee.

[HCP]

Have been PMing the OP... I think the issue is going to be that he is using Ledger Nano S with ETH... if he is using the Ledger ETH Chrome app, then seedrecovery.py won't work as for some reason Ledger set their wallet up using a non-BIP44 compatible derivation path of m/44'/60'/0' (ETH BIP44 is m/44'/60'/0'/0')

The select dialog for choosing your wallet type even says:

Ethereum Standard BIP39/BIP44 (Jaxx, MetaMask, MyEtherWallet, TREZOR, Exodus, NOT Ledger)

I believe it SHOULD be possible to modify the code to add an option to work with Ledger... and my initial tests seem to be OK... just need to discuss with OP

[Boinguyen]

 

Have been PMing the OP... I think the issue is going to be that he is using Ledger Nano S with ETH... if he is using the Ledger ETH Chrome app, then seedrecovery.py won't work as for some reason Ledger set their wallet up using a non-BIP44 compatible derivation path of m/44'/60'/0' (ETH BIP44 is m/44'/60'/0'/0')

The select dialog for choosing your wallet type even says:

Ethereum Standard BIP39/BIP44 (Jaxx, MetaMask, MyEtherWallet, TREZOR, Exodus, NOT Ledger)

I believe it SHOULD be possible to modify the code to add an option to work with Ledger... and my initial tests seem to be OK... just need to discuss with OP

Youre awesome!!!! Becuase my wallet was created on a ledger nano s and then i used myetherwallet to receive ethereum from bittrex. When i plugged in the nano on myetherwallet after typed in the pin code on my ledger it pops up the box showing 4 addresses that i can choose to send ethereum to. The very first address have all my coins and the derivation path always be Ledger (ETH) m/44’/60’/0’
Hope that after you have rescripted the codes for it to find my wallet i will be a happy person again.
Thank you very much in advance HCP!!  Youre the man!!

[Boinguyen]

Could you please say it in simple english??
Is there any scripts that i can run to find the correct position as well as the word that have the address cointaned my coins??
Thanks

Like written earlier, this tool:

You can use the btcrecover tool: https://github.com/gurnec/btcrecover/.
Or to be more precise the seedrecovery.py: https://github.com/gurnec/btcrecover/blob/master/docs/Seedrecover_Quick_Start_Guide.md

can check all possible words if you got 1 word wrong.

Now, since you have 23 words.. you could call that 23 correct words + 1 wrong word.
Now try to make 24 seeds with your 23 correct words and your 1 wrong word starting at position 1, moving always one to the right.
So your second seed to check has the wrong word in the 2nd position, your third seed in the 3rd position, and so on..

Afterwards you run the script mentionoed above on all 24 seeds. The script will replace the wrong word with all possible words (for each of your 24 possible missing word-positions).


As far as i know there is no script yet which does exactly this. But you can easily do this 'by hand' or write a small python script by yourself which
calls the recovery-script 24 time with different seeds. If you are not a 'friend of computer' at all:

If you aren't able to set it up properly you should try to find a reputable(!) and honest person on this forum to do this for you for a small fee.

Sorry but Really am not a friend of computer for sure. Well not at all but only with python and script thing. But i can install and run it if you could make it simple otherwise writing the script to do the word of finding the missing word is like slapping on my face because i really dont know much about it , sorry!
My only hope now that HCP will help me to edit the scripts and make it work with my current sittuation. And hope that it will comes handy with other people in the future if they have accidently deleted a word out of their recover seed

[raj21showtime]

similar problem. Ledger Nano S reset during firmware update and now trying to recover my ledger, but the 24 word passphrase is not working. i have all 24 words but seems like one or two words is not correct. all i have is the one ethereum wallet address i used when connecting my ledger to myetherwallet. i have setup and ran the python seed recovery script as suggested, but if i select myetherwallet and input my address and recovery phrase it does not find a seed (ran multiple times). if i select the ledger option i get a keyerror: '0' and cannot get it the script to take my 24 words to see if it can find the incorrect word in the phrase. fairly stumped at the moment

[Lucius]

similar problem. Ledger Nano S reset during firmware update and now trying to recover my ledger, but the 24 word passphrase is not working. i have all 24 words but seems like one or two words is not correct. all i have is the one ethereum wallet address i used when connecting my ledger to myetherwallet. i have setup and ran the python seed recovery script as suggested, but if i select myetherwallet and input my address and recovery phrase it does not find a seed (ran multiple times). if i select the ledger option i get a keyerror: '0' and cannot get it the script to take my 24 words to see if it can find the incorrect word in the phrase. fairly stumped at the moment

Maybe is problem in your firmware,do you try to make update again?Although it is a great probability that you have some words wrong written,so check every word letter by letter.If for example you have word affair and you write down afair it's a mistake.Take some time and read HCP post number 5, and also check every word with help of this BIP39WordList

[raj21showtime]

checked all of the words, the lists, etc. trying to run the seedrecovery script in python with no luck, my main question is the fact do i need to run the seedrecovery as the ledger option or myetherwallet option. because the public wallet address i have is an ethereum wallet address, but that address seems to error out when i select ledger as my wallet

[bob123]

checked all of the words, the lists, etc.

All of the words are correct words from the BIP39 wordlist?
Did you also check the order of those words (rows/columns)?

trying to run the seedrecovery script in python with no luck, my main question is the fact do i need to run the seedrecovery as the ledger option or myetherwallet option.

If you used the 'first' derived ETH address (which is the only address shown in the native ETH app), you should choose ledger.

because the public wallet address i have is an ethereum wallet address, but that address seems to error out when i select ledger as my wallet

Did you run a script which needs a BTC address maybe? Or what exactly is the error message you get?

[raj21showtime]

checked all of the words, the lists, etc.

All of the words are correct words from the BIP39 wordlist?
Did you also check the order of those words (rows/columns)?

YES, ALL ARE CORRECT

trying to run the seedrecovery script in python with no luck, my main question is the fact do i need to run the seedrecovery as the ledger option or myetherwallet option.

If you used the 'first' derived ETH address (which is the only address shown in the native ETH app), you should choose ledger.

YES, USED THE ETH ADDRESS SO THAT MAKES ME FEEL BETTER AS THE MYETHERWALLET OPTION FOUND NO SEED

because the public wallet address i have is an ethereum wallet address, but that address seems to error out when i select ledger as my wallet

Did you run a script which needs a BTC address maybe? Or what exactly is the error message you get?

I BELIEVE ITS LOOKING FOR A BTC WALLET

Starting seedrecover 0.7.3, btcrecover 0.17.10 on Python 2.7.14 64-bit, 16-bit unicodes, 32-bit ints
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "C:\Users\RicHome\Downloads\btcrecover-master\btcrecover-master\seedrecover.py", line 37, in <module>
    mnemonic_sentence = btcrseed.main(sys.argv[1:])
  File "C:\Users\RicHome\Downloads\btcrecover-master\btcrecover-master\btcrecover\btcrseed.py", line 1781, in main
    loaded_wallet = wallet_type.create_from_params(**create_from_params)
  File "C:\Users\RicHome\Downloads\btcrecover-master\btcrecover-master\btcrecover\btcrseed.py", line 661, in create_from_params
    self._known_hash160s = self._addresses_to_hash160s(addresses)
  File "C:\Users\RicHome\Downloads\btcrecover-master\btcrecover-master\btcrecover\btcrseed.py", line 208, in _addresses_to_hash160s
    hash160, version_byte = base58check_to_hash160(address)
  File "C:\Users\RicHome\Downloads\btcrecover-master\btcrecover-master\btcrecover\btcrseed.py", line 122, in base58check_to_hash160
    decoded_bytes = base58check_to_bytes(base58_rep, 1 + 20)
  File "C:\Users\RicHome\Downloads\btcrecover-master\btcrecover-master\btcrecover\btcrseed.py", line 100, in base58check_to_bytes
    int_rep += base58_digit_to_dec[base58_digit]
KeyError: '0'
Press Enter to exit ...