Long Term Business Partner needed from anywhere other than US

[aliashraf]

Hi all,

I'm looking for business partners capable of shipping mining hardware to Iran from EU/China/... just not from USA because of Trump

I'm not greedy and can't do business with greedy people. ASICs are not my favorites but I can do them (occasionaly tho) as well, but obviously, my main targets are gpus, mbs and psus.

[HardyGoodsLtd]

sounds like your just after a proxy location to me, more than a partner?  can we have a little more info like what capacity is someone a partner? and are they required to front up any capital in this venture? how much time/space is required? are you aware of EU import duties?

[jenia1]

talk to me. tell me exactly what you need and what you offer in exchange. i might be able to help.

[Parodium]

I live in the UK, if you need a partner here, shoot me a message with what you need.

[mombay]

Hi, you can PM me about all of the things you need and how much you are willing to pay. I can provide you GPUs, MBs, PSUs and any others from almost any brands and ship them to you. 

[aliashraf]

Hello everyone,

Thanks for the comments

You know Iran, my country (my nation to be precise), is under political attack by a very strong lobby in the USA, pro Israeli (abbreviated AIPAC or something) and Trump is more than happy to be their bitch
Consequently, we, ordinary people, can't do trade in a smooth and easy way internationally. For instance Amazon and ebay impose discrimination against us, Iranians.
On The other hand we have a bunch of greedy  opportunists here who take advantage  from this situation (and our own infamous  corrupted organisations). They have monopolized everything and do whatever they want with the market.

I want to leverage legal and legitimate opportunities for miners in Iran to have easy and fast access to the international markets (whether Trump and Netanyahu like it or not) to do it, I need partners in Europe/China/... who can:

1- Provide economic class mining parts, especially exempting local tax as we have to pay taxes here and it is not fair to pay both sides.
2- Establish a permanent business line with Iran (shipping, warranty mechanism, ... )
3- A credit line, starting with a minimum (1 btc or less for example ) but growing up to 10-20 btcs within months to overcome trust problems.

[jenia1]

Hello everyone,

Thanks for the comments

You know Iran, my country (my nation to be precise), is under political attack by a very strong lobby in the USA, pro Israeli (abbreviated AIPAC or something) and Trump is more than happy to be their bitch
Consequently, we, ordinary people, can't do trade in a smooth and easy way internationally. For instance Amazon and ebay impose discrimination against us, Iranians.
On The other hand we have a bunch of greedy  opportunists here who take advantage  from this situation (and our own infamous  corrupted organisations). They have monopolized everything and do whatever they want with the market.

I want to leverage legal and legitimate opportunities for miners in Iran to have easy and fast access to the international markets (whether Trump and Netanyahu like it or not) to do it, I need partners in Europe/China/... who can:

1- Provide economic class mining parts, especially exempting local tax as we have to pay taxes here and it is not fair to pay both sides.
2- Establish a permanent business line with Iran (shipping, warranty mechanism, ... )
3- A credit line, starting with a minimum (1 btc or less for example ) but growing up to 10-20 btcs within months to overcome trust problems.

stupid me. and I thought all this time Iran is being attacked by Ali Khamenei - The Supreme Leader of Iran

[aliashraf]

Hello everyone,

Thanks for the comments

You know Iran, my country (my nation to be precise), is under political attack by a very strong lobby in the USA, pro Israeli (abbreviated AIPAC or something) and Trump is more than happy to be their bitch
Consequently, we, ordinary people, can't do trade in a smooth and easy way internationally. For instance Amazon and ebay impose discrimination against us, Iranians.
On The other hand we have a bunch of greedy  opportunists here who take advantage  from this situation (and our own infamous  corrupted organisations). They have monopolized everything and do whatever they want with the market.

I want to leverage legal and legitimate opportunities for miners in Iran to have easy and fast access to the international markets (whether Trump and Netanyahu like it or not) to do it, I need partners in Europe/China/... who can:

1- Provide economic class mining parts, especially exempting local tax as we have to pay taxes here and it is not fair to pay both sides.
2- Establish a permanent business line with Iran (shipping, warranty mechanism, ... )
3- A credit line, starting with a minimum (1 btc or less for example ) but growing up to 10-20 btcs within months to overcome trust problems.

stupid me. and I thought all this time Iran is being attacked by Ali Khamenei - The Supreme Leader of Iran

You are brain washed by media, I understand. Khamenei being good or bad is not Trump's business, it is Iranians' ...

Israel and USA do not care about Iran'e political regime they want us weak and poor and do anything to break us, read some books instead of watching TV

[jenia1]

Hello everyone,

Thanks for the comments

You know Iran, my country (my nation to be precise), is under political attack by a very strong lobby in the USA, pro Israeli (abbreviated AIPAC or something) and Trump is more than happy to be their bitch
Consequently, we, ordinary people, can't do trade in a smooth and easy way internationally. For instance Amazon and ebay impose discrimination against us, Iranians.
On The other hand we have a bunch of greedy  opportunists here who take advantage  from this situation (and our own infamous  corrupted organisations). They have monopolized everything and do whatever they want with the market.

I want to leverage legal and legitimate opportunities for miners in Iran to have easy and fast access to the international markets (whether Trump and Netanyahu like it or not) to do it, I need partners in Europe/China/... who can:

1- Provide economic class mining parts, especially exempting local tax as we have to pay taxes here and it is not fair to pay both sides.
2- Establish a permanent business line with Iran (shipping, warranty mechanism, ... )
3- A credit line, starting with a minimum (1 btc or less for example ) but growing up to 10-20 btcs within months to overcome trust problems.

stupid me. and I thought all this time Iran is being attacked by Ali Khamenei - The Supreme Leader of Iran

You are brain washed by media, I understand. Khamenei being good or bad is not Trump's business, it is Iranians' ...

Israel and USA do not care about Iran'e political regime they want us weak and poor and do anything to break us, read some books instead of watching TV

I do not watch TV since over 5 years ago and don't read newspapers or any other media tbh- politics is shit
if I am not wrong Israel and Iran had a very good relationship before your current regime came to power?

[aliashraf]

Hello everyone,

Thanks for the comments

You know Iran, my country (my nation to be precise), is under political attack by a very strong lobby in the USA, pro Israeli (abbreviated AIPAC or something) and Trump is more than happy to be their bitch
Consequently, we, ordinary people, can't do trade in a smooth and easy way internationally. For instance Amazon and ebay impose discrimination against us, Iranians.
On The other hand we have a bunch of greedy  opportunists here who take advantage  from this situation (and our own infamous  corrupted organisations). They have monopolized everything and do whatever they want with the market.

I want to leverage legal and legitimate opportunities for miners in Iran to have easy and fast access to the international markets (whether Trump and Netanyahu like it or not) to do it, I need partners in Europe/China/... who can:

1- Provide economic class mining parts, especially exempting local tax as we have to pay taxes here and it is not fair to pay both sides.
2- Establish a permanent business line with Iran (shipping, warranty mechanism, ... )
3- A credit line, starting with a minimum (1 btc or less for example ) but growing up to 10-20 btcs within months to overcome trust problems.

stupid me. and I thought all this time Iran is being attacked by Ali Khamenei - The Supreme Leader of Iran

You are brain washed by media, I understand. Khamenei being good or bad is not Trump's business, it is Iranians' ...

Israel and USA do not care about Iran'e political regime they want us weak and poor and do anything to break us, read some books instead of watching TV

I do not watch TV since over 5 years ago and don't read newspapers or any other media tbh- politics is shit
if I am not wrong Israel and Iran had a very good relationship before your current regime came to power?

'Good relationships' in politics does not mean good intentions or good faith (it is why politics is shit ). Many people believe that the fall of  Shah (the previous regime) of Iran was an American/Israeli plot because he was too ambitious to fit in their strategy that definitively includes a weak Middle East. I'm not a conspiracy theory believer but it is a historic fact that they didn't show enough support for him during the so called 'revolution'.

[BenCodie]

This turning out to be political thread  

EDIT : back to topic, OP wants 20% less from original prices  
Waste of time

[aliashraf]

This turning out to be political thread  

EDIT : back to topic, OP wants 20% less from original prices  
Waste of time

Nope. I want original prices, tax exempt. You have offered prices comparable to or even higher than what one can find on retail stores

[HardyGoodsLtd]

This turning out to be political thread  

EDIT : back to topic, OP wants 20% less from original prices  
Waste of time

Nope. I want original prices, tax exempt. You have offered prices comparable to or even higher than what one can find on retail stores

then you really need to contact suppliers directly, all you will find here are middle men, if you open a business account with where you want to buy stuff and get them to ship to your customer directly.

I have a uk business and would happily act as middle man, but with my 20% import duties in the uk I could not sell them at cost.

what you need is someone in the us willing to re-ship them as "gift" and nill value and mark them as pc parts non working, to overcome any import tax

[aliashraf]

This turning out to be political thread  

EDIT : back to topic, OP wants 20% less from original prices  
Waste of time

Nope. I want original prices, tax exempt. You have offered prices comparable to or even higher than what one can find on retail stores

then you really need to contact suppliers directly, all you will find here are middle men, if you open a business account with where you want to buy stuff and get them to ship to your customer directly.

I have a uk business and would happily act as middle man, but with my 20% import duties in the uk I could not sell them at cost.

what you need is someone in the us willing to re-ship them as "gift" and nill value and mark them as pc parts non working, to overcome any import tax

Good comment, thanks
I can afford 10% or so, but not 20. I wonder with your obvious good faith, and established business, could you do something about it? I mean it. You haven't to pay tax when you do not sell in uk I suppose and there should be a way to act like a hub, isn't it?

[Rapidgator]

he message me for 2 of the GPUs i am selling and once we agreed on prices he came up with following PM

OK with 850$ shipped to Tehran. I can pay by ETH.
As of  the procedure and trust issues, considering the low volume it is my proposal:
Th price  should be calculated based on Poloniex fee the moment you deliver package to post, You will send me the receipt and tracking number and I'll send the coins to your account (no escrow needed) I want just a valid phone plus an address of yours and a photo of your passport plus a proof of residency and a selfie of you holding the passport and the post receipt. I just tried to eliminate escrow this way and I don't mean any offense, you understand.

Regards Ali

Don't do any business with this guy, even with an escrow or you will get burned because of his stupidity and zero knowledge..
better stay away from him

[p90xinsanity]

he message me for 2 of the GPUs i am selling and once we agreed on prices he came up with following PM

OK with 850$ shipped to Tehran. I can pay by ETH.
As of  the procedure and trust issues, considering the low volume it is my proposal:
Th price  should be calculated based on Poloniex fee the moment you deliver package to post, You will send me the receipt and tracking number and I'll send the coins to your account (no escrow needed) I want just a valid phone plus an address of yours and a photo of your passport plus a proof of residency and a selfie of you holding the passport and the post receipt. I just tried to eliminate escrow this way and I don't mean any offense, you understand.

Regards Ali

Don't do any business with this guy, even with an escrow or you will get burned because of his stupidity and zero knowledge..
better stay away from him

This guy (Ali) seems like a pompous retard to be honest. He talks about doing a business deal with someone then talks politics, what intelligent business man ever tries to talk politics knowing it would harm his business prospects?

On top of all this it appears he has no understanding of import/export taxation, laws, and wants to take on the entire global elite by breaking down barriers with his brilliant ideas of circumventing trade restrictions put on Iran by having you do all the hard work for him in ANOTHER country. Essentially you will be this guys lacky and he will enjoy the benefits all while only paying wholesale rates? Delusional much?

If ALL OF THIS wasnt enough do you have any idea the level of insanity one has to be in order to deal with the scrutiny of sending items to Iran? I'm married to an Iranian woman, and trust me the level of paperwork and headache is just too much. They monitor anyone doing business with Iran very closely and this would flag you and bring you into the governments (any Western countries) radar. Not to mention financial impositions of moving high value items across borders into that specific region, anti money laundering laws with regards to terrorism and you just being subjected to an array of legal hurdles.

So Ali do us all a favor and stop with your delusions of grandeur and dreams of toppling down regimes and sanctions single handedly by getting your future "business" (lacky) partner in trouble in the western world. Sorry you were dealt a shit hand in life but please dont get some poor guy on this forum in trouble in REAL LIFE.

[BenCodie]

he message me for 2 of the GPUs i am selling and once we agreed on prices he came up with following PM

OK with 850$ shipped to Tehran. I can pay by ETH.
As of  the procedure and trust issues, considering the low volume it is my proposal:
Th price  should be calculated based on Poloniex fee the moment you deliver package to post, You will send me the receipt and tracking number and I'll send the coins to your account (no escrow needed) I want just a valid phone plus an address of yours and a photo of your passport plus a proof of residency and a selfie of you holding the passport and the post receipt. I just tried to eliminate escrow this way and I don't mean any offense, you understand.

Regards Ali

Don't do any business with this guy, even with an escrow or you will get burned because of his stupidity and zero knowledge..
better stay away from him

This guy (Ali) seems like a pompous retard to be honest. He talks about doing a business deal with someone then talks politics, what intelligent business man ever tries to talk politics knowing it would harm his business prospects?

On top of all this it appears he has no understanding of import/export taxation, laws, and wants to take on the entire global elite by breaking down barriers with his brilliant ideas of circumventing trade restrictions put on Iran by having you do all the hard work for him in ANOTHER country. Essentially you will be this guys lacky and he will enjoy the benefits all while only paying wholesale rates? Delusional much?

If ALL OF THIS wasnt enough do you have any idea the level of insanity one has to be in order to deal with the scrutiny of sending items to Iran? I'm married to an Iranian woman, and trust me the level of paperwork and headache is just too much. They monitor anyone doing business with Iran very closely and this would flag you and bring you into the governments (any Western countries) radar. Not to mention financial impositions of moving high value items across borders into that specific region, anti money laundering laws with regards to terrorism and you just being subjected to an array of legal hurdles.

So Ali do us all a favor and stop with your delusions of grandeur and dreams of toppling down regimes and sanctions single handedly by getting your future "business" (lacky) partner in trouble in the western world. Sorry you were dealt a shit hand in life but please dont get some poor guy on this forum in trouble in REAL LIFE.

1+
This guy (Ali) is more than idiot as I already told you, its waste of time.
He don't even know how international market works, how hardware prices fluctuate once currency went up or down.
As "Rapidgator" said, you can be in big trouble if you deal with this guy even through escrow!

[aliashraf]

he message me for 2 of the GPUs i am selling and once we agreed on prices he came up with following PM

OK with 850$ shipped to Tehran. I can pay by ETH.
As of  the procedure and trust issues, considering the low volume it is my proposal:
Th price  should be calculated based on Poloniex fee the moment you deliver package to post, You will send me the receipt and tracking number and I'll send the coins to your account (no escrow needed) I want just a valid phone plus an address of yours and a photo of your passport plus a proof of residency and a selfie of you holding the passport and the post receipt. I just tried to eliminate escrow this way and I don't mean any offense, you understand.

Regards Ali

Don't do any business with this guy, even with an escrow or you will get burned because of his stupidity and zero knowledge..
better stay away from him

Really?
You are so rude!
Few months ago you came up with these 2 hypothetical cards and tried to scam me by asking trade without escrow and just sending you the price and waiting forever for you to ship the cards. It was a dead-end and I cut the negotiations. Few days ago you came again, offering the same cards again ... I deliberately repeated the process and this time asked for your mysterious identity (you claim being in Dubai and then you say the cards are actually in Pakistan and ... It was the reason behind that message. Obviously you are a scammer dude I'll forward the entire negotiations here and everybody is going to realize it:

Hello,  

I just tried to solve the trust issue and I'm no expert i just imagined if I have your address and personal info I can find you somewhere, somehow somewhen and ask my money in case the package is not original or the delivery has been cancelled or interrupted by you. I don't understand what is wrong with sending a selfie if you are thinking about abuse, it is easy, one can put a note exclusively mentioning the use case.

Anyway, I didn't mean bad things, just tried an escrowless protocol and I don't have any insistence on it. So, what should we do?

selfies with or without passport can be used in criminal activities online.its completely wrong and a big offence.so don't even think about it....
why i will cheat you?
i don't know why even you're thinking that i will scam you, i didn't forced you to deal with me.
Solution is simple if you want to make a deal with me you must pay upfront otherwise please don't waste my time neither your own.

Here we go, just pay you and wait for the cargo , no thanks. What about delivery in Dubai? Can you do it in Dubai in a pickup scenario? You deliver to a friend of mine and dubai and we are done. Is it ok foryou?

what is problem with you man?
both cards are in Pakistan now..if you have trust issue, don't deal with me.

Of course I have trust issues, don't you?

You don't remember ha? We played this game months ago and we ended the same dead end. Haven't you find an idiot yet? Or you just want to do the same trick more than once? Enough is enough man, grow up!
I won't list you as a scammer but please don't do this on the forume again or I have to do something about it.

[aliashraf]

he message me for 2 of the GPUs i am selling and once we agreed on prices he came up with following PM

OK with 850$ shipped to Tehran. I can pay by ETH.
As of  the procedure and trust issues, considering the low volume it is my proposal:
Th price  should be calculated based on Poloniex fee the moment you deliver package to post, You will send me the receipt and tracking number and I'll send the coins to your account (no escrow needed) I want just a valid phone plus an address of yours and a photo of your passport plus a proof of residency and a selfie of you holding the passport and the post receipt. I just tried to eliminate escrow this way and I don't mean any offense, you understand.

Regards Ali

Don't do any business with this guy, even with an escrow or you will get burned because of his stupidity and zero knowledge..
better stay away from him

This guy (Ali) seems like a pompous retard to be honest. He talks about doing a business deal with someone then talks politics, what intelligent business man ever tries to talk politics knowing it would harm his business prospects?

On top of all this it appears he has no understanding of import/export taxation, laws, and wants to take on the entire global elite by breaking down barriers with his brilliant ideas of circumventing trade restrictions put on Iran by having you do all the hard work for him in ANOTHER country. Essentially you will be this guys lacky and he will enjoy the benefits all while only paying wholesale rates? Delusional much?

If ALL OF THIS wasnt enough do you have any idea the level of insanity one has to be in order to deal with the scrutiny of sending items to Iran? I'm married to an Iranian woman, and trust me the level of paperwork and headache is just too much. They monitor anyone doing business with Iran very closely and this would flag you and bring you into the governments (any Western countries) radar. Not to mention financial impositions of moving high value items across borders into that specific region, anti money laundering laws with regards to terrorism and you just being subjected to an array of legal hurdles.

So Ali do us all a favor and stop with your delusions of grandeur and dreams of toppling down regimes and sanctions single handedly by getting your future "business" (lacky) partner in trouble in the western world. Sorry you were dealt a shit hand in life but please dont get some poor guy on this forum in trouble in REAL LIFE.

1+
This guy (Ali) is more than idiot as I already told you, its waste of time.
He don't even know how international market works, how hardware prices fluctuate once currency went up or down.
As "Rapidgator" said, you can be in big trouble if you deal with this guy even through escrow!

Please Beni 

Just cool down man! It is all about what? You offering me 525$ for 1070s and I rejecting it? Are you crazy man? I'm talking about wholesale business and you are offering retail prices?

And you p90xinsanity the newbie 

You are a fan of 'International sanctions' against Iranian people and AML discourse? huh? What are you doing here then? in a community that is sick of it? Just go to CIA or Musad and find a job out there: establishing and funding terrorist groups then 'fighting' with them just for fun

[p90xinsanity]

he message me for 2 of the GPUs i am selling and once we agreed on prices he came up with following PM

OK with 850$ shipped to Tehran. I can pay by ETH.
As of  the procedure and trust issues, considering the low volume it is my proposal:
Th price  should be calculated based on Poloniex fee the moment you deliver package to post, You will send me the receipt and tracking number and I'll send the coins to your account (no escrow needed) I want just a valid phone plus an address of yours and a photo of your passport plus a proof of residency and a selfie of you holding the passport and the post receipt. I just tried to eliminate escrow this way and I don't mean any offense, you understand.

Regards Ali

Don't do any business with this guy, even with an escrow or you will get burned because of his stupidity and zero knowledge..
better stay away from him

This guy (Ali) seems like a pompous retard to be honest. He talks about doing a business deal with someone then talks politics, what intelligent business man ever tries to talk politics knowing it would harm his business prospects?

On top of all this it appears he has no understanding of import/export taxation, laws, and wants to take on the entire global elite by breaking down barriers with his brilliant ideas of circumventing trade restrictions put on Iran by having you do all the hard work for him in ANOTHER country. Essentially you will be this guys lacky and he will enjoy the benefits all while only paying wholesale rates? Delusional much?

If ALL OF THIS wasnt enough do you have any idea the level of insanity one has to be in order to deal with the scrutiny of sending items to Iran? I'm married to an Iranian woman, and trust me the level of paperwork and headache is just too much. They monitor anyone doing business with Iran very closely and this would flag you and bring you into the governments (any Western countries) radar. Not to mention financial impositions of moving high value items across borders into that specific region, anti money laundering laws with regards to terrorism and you just being subjected to an array of legal hurdles.

So Ali do us all a favor and stop with your delusions of grandeur and dreams of toppling down regimes and sanctions single handedly by getting your future "business" (lacky) partner in trouble in the western world. Sorry you were dealt a shit hand in life but please dont get some poor guy on this forum in trouble in REAL LIFE.

1+
This guy (Ali) is more than idiot as I already told you, its waste of time.
He don't even know how international market works, how hardware prices fluctuate once currency went up or down.
As "Rapidgator" said, you can be in big trouble if you deal with this guy even through escrow!

Please Beni 

Just cool down man! It is all about what? You offering me 525$ for 1070s and I rejecting it? Are you crazy man? I'm talking about wholesale business and you are offering retail prices?

And you p90xinsanity the newbie 

You are a fan of 'International sanctions' against Iranian people and AML discourse? huh? What are you doing here then? in a community that is sick of it? Just go to CIA or Musad and find a job out there: establishing and funding terrorist groups then 'fighting' with them just for fun

ahh the retards tirade continues. go ahead buddy tell us how much you are better than everyone, we're all fascinated by your "intellectual" thoughts