Please tell me I havent been scammed..!

[bitcoindigi]

yep, sounds like a scam.

[cp1]

Ok everyone. Well thanks for your help.

I should have spent a bit of time learning about these factors before I jumped strait in. I had no idea  that Bitcoins couldnt be reversed or traced - I read an article that claimed that each coin was basically a unique code and was easily identifiable- I presumed it would be easy to get a refund due to this fact. Obviously I misunderstood the article or it was a load of horsesh1t.

They are identifiable, in the same way that cash is identifiable, as every dollar bill has a serial number on it.  And it helps you about the same amount.

[logarkh]

If they're listed on places like SR it's best to get them to put a custom order on one of the BMs and use an escrow service. Hope you get what you bought.

[Zanatos666]

You pretty much just described the reason America seceded from Britain in the first place. High ass taxes, no representation in the Parliament

It gave us 200 or so years of breathing room but now we are right back in the same place.  Bad news is it is hard to secede from yourself.

My state is filled with people stupid enough to think it can legally secede from the nation...

Sounds like someone lives in Texas.  Used to work with a guy who would throw that line around all the time.  Made me laugh every time.

[Damnsammit]

Sounds like someone lives in Texas.  Used to work with a guy who would throw that line around all the time.  Made me laugh every time.

Yeah, I'm a displaced Michigander... strange folk around these here parts, I reckon. 

[allyouracid]

Hello,

although scam could be very well possible, i would suggest to give it some time. Two days is not that much of a long time, and maybe something went inbetween or there were other things that prevented the seller from doint what he is supposed to.
Not long ago, i ordered a handmade laser pointer from a very nice guy from Canada for some 230 bucks (euros, not dollars). He told me before that the canadian postal system is low as frack, so i should expect to wait some 3-4 weeks. After 6 weeks it still did not arrive, and after 3 months (!!) it finally arrived. From time to time i also wrote some mails to him, asking what may have happened and if he might go investigate. And once, i remember, he did not respond for a whole week. Was in holydays or something like that.

At the end of the day, everything went fine. German customd opened the package and when they found out that everything is fine (declarations etc.), they sent it over to me.

Bottomline: don't kiss that money goodbye, yet. To repeat it: two days really is not that long. Good luck!

[neilgilkes]

Is there a database of sites to avoid anywhere or reveiws of sites?

Thanks

Scamadvisor is pretty good, but I'm not sure if it lists black market sites.

However, the easiest way to avoid scams is to use your brain. A black market seller of no doubt counterfeit items (if he even actually delivers) asks for no escrow and you give him $300 in an untraceable currency? How long did you think about this? Unless you're buying drugs or child porn there's really no reason to be buying stuff off the darknet. It's much safer to use a legit site.

Wait a minute, am I missing something here? Why the hell would anyone go to the trouble of trading their standard currency - which is acceptable anywhere legitimate - into an non-traceable, anonymous electronic currency like Bitcoins unless they needed to stay anonymous or use a shop that only accepted Bitcoins - like the blackmarket sites.

As far as i have seen only sites accessed through the deepweb / tor etc demand payment in Bitcoins.

If you want to use a 'Legit' site, take your credit card and buy stuff off Amazon. It will save you an unbeleivable amount of time and effort... Forget all about bitcoins if your looking for regular, legitimate goods...

[Blood Ninja]

I contacted the guy about stock on samsungstore@tormail.org and he didnt have what I wanted but had something similar. I sent a few emails back and forth getting the specs right and ended up sending about $300 in BTC. It all seemed legit - why say he didnt have what i wanted if he was a scammer? etc

No to sound condescending but you learned a valuable lesson and it only cost you $300.00. It could have been much worse!!!!

[btcton]

Sounds like a scam to me. Not entirely sure, but use escrow next time. Good luck.

[J603]

"Wait a minute, am I missing something here? Why the hell would anyone go to the trouble of trading their standard currency - which is acceptable anywhere legitimate - into an non-traceable, anonymous electronic currency like Bitcoins unless they needed to stay anonymous or use a shop that only accepted Bitcoins - like the blackmarket sites."

I'm guessing that mostly miners are the ones buying with bitcoins. But believe it or not, not everyone who buys bitcoins uses them for illegal purchases...

"As far as i have seen only sites accessed through the deepweb / tor etc demand payment in Bitcoins."

Look further. https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Trade.

"If you want to use a 'Legit' site, take your credit card and buy stuff off Amazon. It will save you an unbeleivable amount of time and effort... Forget all about bitcoins if your looking for regular, legitimate goods..."

Not sure what the condescending remarks are for. I'm not the one who got screwed out of $300 in an obvious scam. And yes, buying off of Amazon would save you time and effort, so why didn't you? Even if you don't use Amazon there are plenty of counterfeit sites that sell products for cash without using Tor.


There are plenty of legal, clearnet sites that accept bitcoins, without going through Tor. Google it or search on these forums. But, if you're looking for ILLEGAL things (counterfeit Samsung products?), then you might have to use Tor. However, when using Tor sites which have NO regulation, as they're illegal, don't make purchases unless you know for sure that they are not scams. And don't complain when you got scammed. You should know that you're taking a risk.

[MinerStatus]

sorry to hear this, I hope it all works out for you.

[NoDisco]

It was listed with all the legit sites like Silk Road

If you've heard of Silk Road and think it's "legit", then you probably had full knowledge you were attempting to deal in black market goods. Hoping to bag a cheap Samsung phone for half price and sell it for a big profit eh? Seems like you've been standing on the corner for 2 days waiting for the dealer to come back. He's not coming back.

But hang around the newbies section - there are plenty people here who can teach you how to scam newbies. Soon you too will be the guy selling non-existent phones. The cat's in the cradle... 

[DannyHamilton]

Wait a minute, am I missing something here? Why the hell would anyone go to the trouble of trading their standard currency - which is acceptable anywhere legitimate - into an non-traceable, anonymous electronic currency like Bitcoins unless they needed to stay anonymous or use a shop that only accepted Bitcoins - like the blackmarket sites.

As far as i have seen only sites accessed through the deepweb / tor etc demand payment in Bitcoins.

If you want to use a 'Legit' site, take your credit card and buy stuff off Amazon. It will save you an unbeleivable amount of time and effort... Forget all about bitcoins if your looking for regular, legitimate goods...

Some people are trying to break free of the hidden tax of inflation that their government forces on them by continuously printing excessive amounts of money.

Others simply value their privacy.

There are those that like the novelty of being on the leading edge of technology.

There are also merchants that will offer slightly lower prices for bitcoin payments since they don't have to be concerned about the costs associated with fraudulent chargebacks.  Surprisingly, some consumers like the idea of paying a slightly lower price.

Don't forget about those who have credit issues and can't get a credit card that doesn't require significant fees from them.

These are just a few of the reasons that people choose bitcoin over more traditional payment methods.  Eventually the "time and effort" necessary to pay with bitcoin will fade, and the benefits will become more obvious.

[marcos1337]

oh thank you for this i was going to go buy a product from the site but i found this thread. Goodness i didn't i was going to spend 700$ btc but now i'll do more research on whos legit and a scam website thanks!