MergeCoin Help- Trying to merge mine, IXC, I0C,DVC, NMC

[ahmed_bodi]

Im working on the mergecoin code to try out different coins that im thinking of making and i get this error when compiling? anyone have any ideas?

Error: http://pastebin.com/7NXkB5RQ

[markm]

Did you finish the applying of the patches?

Several chuncks of the merged mining as a secondary coin patches were rejected by the patch program, they need to be manually applied, they are the .rej files.

I applied what I could, however i left the .rej files anyway so people can check what i actually did to what was supposed to be done but got rejected.

Even once all are cleanly applied the result will be a version of bitcoin that would be able to act as a secondary chain in a merge, which would be a hard fork of bitcoin.

But once that has been done, then all the various coins can clone it and start chaing the name the icons the block rewards and so on, all the things that make them each a different coin.

-MarkM-

EDIT actually once those patches are cleanly applied then also whatever bitcoin's vulnerability fix should also be applied before all the various coins clone it to mutate into a newer version of themselves.

[ahmed_bodi]

where can i obtain these patches, i cant seem to find them in your github repo?

[markm]

where can i obtain these patches, i cant seem to find them in your github repo?

The mergecoin repo is bitcoin and the patch and the rejects that resulted from using the program named patch to apply the patch.

However it looks like the patch did not include any entire new separate files needed, only changes to files that already existed in bitcoin back when the patch was made.

The missing files though are already in all the merged mined coins that were already made by applying the full version of the patch, including it seems some entirely new files that had not existed in bitcoin before.

So groupcoin, devcoin, whatevercoin all likely contain copies of the files that for some reason the one big patch file form of the patch does not contain.

-MarkM-

[ahmed_bodi]

right okay, i might try one of the ideas ou posted on the other threads about comparing the coins code to the bitcoin's code then, Do you know which was the last version of bitcoin to use berkerlydb

[markm]

Ahh there is an idea! Yes, try doing a diff of the last version of bitcoin to use Berkeley DB against the latest version of bitcoin, then try to apply that as a patch to the least-different-from-bitcoin merged mined coin that has no known bugs or quirks of its own. So, like groupcoin or ixcoin, I guess.

-MarkM-

[ahmed_bodi]

nice thanks

[doublec]

I have a version of the patches required to use bitcoin as a primary chain rebased on top of bitcoin 0.8.1 with the recent security fix and performance improvement patch from 0.8.3 and 0.8.2 respectively cherry picked. It's in the m0.8.1_merged branch of my bitcoin fork on github: https://github.com/doublec/bitcoin/tree/m0.8.1_merged

The commit you're looking for for just the merge mining code is: https://github.com/doublec/bitcoin/commit/7a6e135db4cdbf70c56546da8a5974152ef84e5a

The branch also includes a patch for using libzmq for block notifications which you probably don't want. Although it doesn't include the patches required for an auxilliary chain it should be fairly easy to add those as it'll just be the rpc functions that are needed. The patch also includes some extra stuff I used to use for implementing getblocktemplate with merge mining but you can strip those out if you don't need them.

[markm]

I have a version of the patches required to use bitcoin as a primary chain rebased on top of bitcoin 0.8.1 with the recent security fix and performance improvement patch from 0.8.3 and 0.8.2 respectively cherry picked. It's in the m0.8.1_merged branch of my bitcoin fork on github: https://github.com/doublec/bitcoin/tree/m0.8.1_merged

The commit you're looking for for just the merge mining code is: https://github.com/doublec/bitcoin/commit/7a6e135db4cdbf70c56546da8a5974152ef84e5a

The branch also includes a patch for using libzmq for block notifications which you probably don't want. Although it doesn't include the patches required for an auxilliary chain it should be fairly easy to add those as it'll just be the rpc functions that are needed. The patch also includes some extra stuff I used to use for implementing getblocktemplate with merge mining but you can strip those out if you don't need them.

Its secondary chain we want. Bitcoin cannot act as secondary chain. Doing search and replace on bitcoin to change name rewards etc to make a new coin will result in a coin that can act as primary chain, because bitcoin can. Them merged mined coins need the "be able to act as a secondary chain" patches, those are the ones we need.

Being able to act as primary we get for free from bitcoin directly.

-MarkM-

[ahmed_bodi]

nope i need my coin to act as primary chain and be able to merge mine secondary chains like dvc

[doublec]

Its secondary chain we want.

That's why I wrote "Although it doesn't include the patches required for an auxilliary chain it should be fairly easy to add those as it'll just be the rpc functions that are needed.". That commit does all the hard work. It ports over the auxpow stuff, changes the things required in block creation,etc. You can do the rest if you want it.

[markm]

nope i need my coin to act as primary chain and be able to merge mine secondary chains like dvc

Yes but all coins derived from bitcoin already can act as primary chain, because bitcoin already can.

What we need to add to bitcoin before changing its name and rewards and such to clone all the other coins from it is ONLY the "act as a secondary chain" stuff. it already has everything else except the names icons rewards quirks etc that make each coin different. They all are just bitcoin plus acting as a secondary chain plus what makes them individually unique/different.

-MarkM-

[ahmed_bodi]

right okay i think i understand. So basically i need to apply the aux chain patches to the coin im working on and then it should be able to be merged mined with dvc and ixc etc

[doublec]

Yes but all coins derived from bitcoin already can act as primary chain, because bitcoin already can.

Well, yes and no. If they're using the 'merge mining proxy' they can't as that proxy requires patches to bitcoin. If they're using custom block generation pool software then that software would need to be changed to work with their coin.

[markm]

Its secondary chain we want.

That's why I wrote "Although it doesn't include the patches required for an auxilliary chain it should be fairly easy to add those as it'll just be the rpc functions that are needed.". That commit does all the hard work. It ports over the auxpow stuff, changes the things required in block creation,etc. You can do the rest if you want it.

Okay I am not understanding what you mean then. By use bitcoin as a primary chain, you mean act as a secondary chain?

Of course the identification of which aux you are is unique to each chain so is a separate thing like name icon etc, part of what each coin needs to change to be its own unique different (aux) chain.

-MarkM-

[doublec]

Okay I am not understanding what you mean then. By use bitcoin as a primary chain, you mean act as a secondary chain?

No, I mean as a primary chain using the merge mining proxy software. That software requires extra RPC commands to be patched to bitcoin. This patch ports those extra RPC commands. But those RPC commands also use a bunch of stuff that the secondary chain RPC commands use - so a lot of the porting work to get the secondary chain additional stuff working is also done in this patch.

[markm]

right okay i think i understand. So basically i need to apply the aux chain patches to the coin im working on and then it should be able to be merged mined with dvc and ixc etc

I guess I don't know what each of these differently named patches are supposed to contain.

I had one huge patch that was the difference between bitcoin and a coin that could act as a secondary chain. It originally came from the namecoin dev, but that would maybe have contained a lot of namecoin-specific stuff not useful to other coins unless he himself did what I am proposing, of first adding to bitcoin the merged mining as a secondary chain stuff befroe doing stuff that is specific to a particular other coin such as namecoin. So likely what I used was what doublec had made after he stripped out all the namecoin-specific stuff (if present) to get down to the nitty gritty of just the merged mining without all the namecoin domains etc etc stuff that other coins don't need or want.

-MarkM-

[ahmed_bodi]

basically what im after is modifying the coin im working on to be able to merged mined, likely with something like p2pool with DVC, IXC, I0C, NMC as aux chains

[markm]

basically what im after is modifying the coin im working on to be able to merged mined, likely with something like p2pool with DVC, IXC, I0C, NMC as aux chains

Well maybe find the merged mined coin that is most similar in code/version to the bitcoin version you based your coin on, do a diff between that coin and yours, remove all the parts of the diff that are the coin-specific things making one coin different from another, and what is left should be the parts of merged mining that your coin does not yet have.

-MarkM-

[doublec]

basically what im after is modifying the coin im working on to be able to merged mined, likely with something like p2pool with DVC, IXC, I0C, NMC as aux chains

If you cherry pick the commit I referenced to your coin and use the "merge mining proxy" that is included in the 'contrib' directory that is added by that commit then you can have your coin as a primary chain while mining DVC, etc as secondary chains. You won't be able to mine bitcoin though but from your posts I'm assuming you are fine with that.