[ANN][GOA] GoaCoin - new Wallet 0.12.2.2, POW, Masternodes, NeoScrypt

[Mike_IG]

Dear developers.Answer me a question.The results of this survey show that the owners and holders of coins of GOA want to masternode worked with 10,000 coins.How to understand this??I bought a craftsman and it took 1,000 coins to work.Do I have to buy 9,000 coins??This is at least not fair.Need to buy 9,000 coins??Or will the coins be multiplied??I want to hear your comments on this issue.Thanks.

Hi developer.You really did not answer my question.If the coin GOA will undergo changes corresponding to the results of voting, the holders of the master node will have to buy coins??9000 GOA is a big sum.Or will additional coins be issued to the current master node owners ??

Hey. We did not plan to add coins to owners masternodes. We thought that everyone would choose 2000 or 3000 GOA. But the community decided differently.

We will sumup voting results on 8th of April. Until then, you are ready to listen to your proposals and if the community supports changes, they will be accepted.

That is,this way you will be forced to buy for 9,000 coins all who want to master node working??I'll tell you what.If you do that, there'll be an even bigger dump.The price will not rise and it will kill.I guess to remain over 20% are not happy holders.People who can't buy 9,000 coins will sell their coins very cheap.On your part, it does not look nice and not fair.

I looked at the results again.I see that all the people have come to their senses and made the right decision.Leads the result with the current price of 1 thousand coins.That's great.Looks like you won't have to buy anything.

That's your opinion on what will happen but who's to say that will happen?, Why would people who can't buy 9000 coins sell very cheap?, POS + MN is winning the vote as well so holding onto those 1000 coins in a wallet you would earn coins via Staking.

If you go by the current votes 47 people want it to stay as it is and 45 want it changed to 10000 (out of 152 votes) so even if we go one further than what you say and that EVERYONE apart from the people who want it to go to 10000 coins sold their coins then pretty much 7 out of every 10 would sell their 1000 coins so 7000 coins to be sold every 10 people, yet 3 people would need an extra 9000 coins each making 27000 coins so from a group of 10 people 20000 extra coins would be needed so the price would more likely go up than down, People would be crazy to sell them even cheaper than what they are now which is already only £40/$56 for a masternode which is already stupidly cheap.

I'm not saying you are wrong I'm just saying that It's just as likely the above could happen.

IMO 1000 coins is too low for a masternode now as the price is just so low, The coin needs to make it to get enough trades per day where it can be seen on coinmarketcap to get more exposure and it's not going to get on that IMO when the coin is only 4p a coin and you only need 1000 for a masternode.

[Freebish86]

How long it take to get first GOA MN payout?

[jbull86]

When starting second MN for GOA can you stake coins in the same wallet as the first MN... totaling 2000 to run 2 MN?

[navigatorus]

How long it take to get first GOA MN payout?

Payments for the work of the master node takes place once in 24 hours.At the moment, the reward for the master node is 15 coins GOA per day.

[Mike_IG]

When starting second MN for GOA can you stake coins in the same wallet as the first MN... totaling 2000 to run 2 MN?

Yes you can.

[Andrew_Tassel]

I think you need increase MN cost up to 2500 coins but not in one moment and not now.
Rise MN cost on 500 coins every month.
MN owner who wants to keep MN in future will hodl all incoming coins. Thus, you significantly reduce the offer on the exchange.
MN owner will collect 425-450 coins for 30 days and will need for additional 50-75 coins. Thus, you slightly increase the demand on the exchange.
PoW mining must cointinue as you need a source of additional coins.

[malekcap]

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[Andrew_Tassel]

What do I receive?

You will receive a development team without a clear development plan for the coin, which is characterized by spontaneous, illogical, absurd actions.

[Andrew_Tassel]

Hey. We did not plan to add coins to owners masternodes. We thought that everyone would choose 2000 or 3000 GOA. But the community decided differently.
We will sumup voting results on 8th of April. Until then, you are ready to listen to your proposals and if the community supports changes, they will be accepted.

Devs, I appeal to you. You are or the stupidest fools I know or arrogant swindlers who decided to "play democracy" with the community.
You organized a voting, what to do with the coin.
Voting, Carl! Which anyone can participate. Not only MN owners or GOA holders. Me, my brother, my bestfriend, my girlfriend, my grandma and 89 colleagues at work.
Voting in the Internet, Carl! Where everyone can have as many Google accounts, as they want. Me, my brother and my best friend each have three accounts.
Where for $10 you can buy 100 votes in any social network. I overseeing for the vote and first 150 votes came in a week, 120 votes came for yesterday, but this morning about 70 votes came per hour. And they made exactly 50% for PoS+MN. Brilliant!
This voting is totally crapped.
Not community decided implement MN+PoS, not community decided rise MN cost up to 10 000 GOA, not community decided change reward for block to 10 GOA. Some guy with at lest 70 bots (I think 150 is closer to the truth) decided.
What a coincidence, all this decisions are very beneficial for devs!
500 000 premined GOA + PoS. Wow! Such many coins! Such profitable! Such richy!
MN owners each needs of additional 9000 goa to receiving half of the former reward. Deficiency of coins. GOA price pumping up. Devs sells PoS-mined coins. MN owners sucks cocks.
Fortunately, I have a grandma and 89 colleagues, so at this moment we have only MN+PoS implementation. But guy with hundreds bots can return.
So, what can you say about all this?
Do you accept voting results?

[Andrew_Tassel]

50 votes per 15 minutes? Really?
Devs, you not need throw in fake votes. Just say what you decided fuck up all 600 MN owners.

[Mike_IG]

Hey. We did not plan to add coins to owners masternodes. We thought that everyone would choose 2000 or 3000 GOA. But the community decided differently.
We will sumup voting results on 8th of April. Until then, you are ready to listen to your proposals and if the community supports changes, they will be accepted.

Devs, I appeal to you. You are or the stupidest fools I know or arrogant swindlers who decided to "play democracy" with the community.
You organized a voting, what to do with the coin.
Voting, Carl! Which anyone can participate. Not only MN owners or GOA holders. Me, my brother, my bestfriend, my girlfriend, my grandma and 89 colleagues at work.
Voting in the Internet, Carl! Where everyone can have as many Google accounts, as they want. Me, my brother and my best friend each have three accounts.
Where for $10 you can buy 100 votes in any social network. I overseeing for the vote and first 150 votes came in a week, 120 votes came for yesterday, but this morning about 70 votes came per hour. And they made exactly 50% for PoS+MN. Brilliant!
This voting is totally crapped.
Not community decided implement MN+PoS, not community decided rise MN cost up to 10 000 GOA, not community decided change reward for block to 10 GOA. Some guy with at lest 70 bots (I think 150 is closer to the truth) decided.
What a coincidence, all this decisions are very beneficial for devs!
500 000 premined GOA + PoS. Wow! Such many coins! Such profitable! Such richy!
MN owners each needs of additional 9000 goa to receiving half of the former reward. Deficiency of coins. GOA price pumping up. Devs sells PoS-mined coins. MN owners sucks cocks.
Fortunately, I have a grandma and 89 colleagues, so at this moment we have only MN+PoS implementation. But guy with hundreds bots can return.
So, what can you say about all this?
Do you accept voting results?

I noticed something very similar a few days ago but instead of what you mentioned EVERY vote was for MN 1000 and MN and POW so it's not all one way.

I do find it a very strange way to vote tho like you mention especially with the number of coins required for a masternode.

IMO the vote should of been 1) do we increase the number of coins required for a MN? and not how many should it be (that should of been decided after) as giving it different amounts diluted the figure down of the amount of people who would vote for an increase in coins as they had 4 options to choose from where as the same just required 1.

Example

1000 votes are cast

206 vote 1000 coins required
200 vote 10000 coins required
199 vote 2000 coins required
198 vote 3000 coins required
197 vote 5000 coins required

So if the above happened then 1000 would win even tho almost 80% would of wanted the number of coins required to be increased for a MN which should really of won IMO.

[Andrew_Tassel]

I noticed something very similar a few days ago but instead of what you mentioned EVERY vote was for MN 1000 and MN and POW so it's not all one way.

First of all I voted myself and asked relatives and friends choose Not PoS+MN & Not 10 000 GOA & 20 GOA. And I noticed what every time voting results diverge from some value somebody adds few votes to PoS+MN.
I wondered and, as I said, I have 89 colleagues, so at Thursday I asked them vote for PoW+MN & 1000 GOA & 20 GOA. At the beginnig they responded sluggishly but I was persistent. At Friday almost all voted. It was real people and votes went for all day.
But votes for PoS+MN & 10 000 GOA & 10 GOA goes by 50 per 15 minutes. It's nonsense and 100% cheat with bots.

[Mike_IG]

I noticed something very similar a few days ago but instead of what you mentioned EVERY vote was for MN 1000 and MN and POW so it's not all one way.

First of all I voted myself and asked relatives and friends choose Not PoS+MN & Not 10 000 GOA & 20 GOA. And I noticed what every time voting results diverge from some value somebody adds few votes to PoS+MN.
I wondered and, as I said, I have 89 colleagues, so at Thursday I asked them vote for PoW+MN & 1000 GOA & 20 GOA. At the beginnig they responded sluggishly but I was persistent. At Friday almost all voted. It was real people and votes went for all day.
But votes for PoS+MN & 10 000 GOA & 10 GOA goes by 50 per 15 minutes. It's nonsense and 100% cheat with bots.

IMO and it's just MO if you are asking colleagues to vote for what you want as well that's really no different to cheating with bots, You are stacking the vote to what you want which is no different to what someone would be doing with a bot, Real or not if they have no interest in the coin they are really messing with the result as well, Other wise it could just become a vote of who knows the most people.

Personally I don't really see the point of 1000 goa with 20 goa given out per MN, The MN is so cheap and you get so many coins that people with MN are just selling the coins at stupidly low prices just to get their money back and are driving the price lower and lower, Definitely needs to be increased IMO especially when they can be picked up so cheap at the moment, I'm not sure how many I would increase it to, Just that 1000 is almost pointless at this point.

Think of it like this if people need 2000 coins to get a masternode and because of people having to buy more doubles the price of the coin then it's no different than 1000 at half the price as the coins you are getting are now worth twice as much.

[Andrew_Tassel]

IMO and it's just MO if you are asking colleagues to vote for what you want as well that's really no different to cheating with bots

But the vote results will not show comnunity opinion. Two men decide future of coin. Of course if one of them not dev. In this case devs decided everything already.

Think of it like this if people need 2000 coins to get a masternode and because of people having to buy more doubles the price of the coin then it's no different than 1000 at half the price as the coins you are getting are now worth twice as much.

The coins I will getting will worth twice only if I will have working MN. But first I will have to buy 1000 coins by doubled price.
In case MN will cost 10 000 GOA I will have to buy 9000 coins by x10 price.
And PoS+MN mean I can't mine requred coins with my rig.
Excellent prospects!
I bought 1000 GOA by $9 and I don't want buy another 9000 GOA neither by ¢5 nor even more by ¢50.
If devs want to raise the price of a coin they should solve this problem and MN owner do not have to pay for it.
I think best way is raise MN cost on 500 GOA per month. All new coins will be used to support work MNs. The deficit of coins will cause increase of price. Constant deficite for a months.
But i believe devs just will set new MN price and everyone who don't have 10 000 GOA will suffer.

[Andrew_Tassel]

Lol, another 5 votes comes in few minutes.
I would like to understand what this guy trying to achieve by his actions.
10 GOA per block instead of 20 GOA - ROI decrease twice.
10 000 GOA for MN - ROI decrease tenfold.
Nobody will buy shitcoins for MN with ROI 25%.

[Mike_IG]

IMO and it's just MO if you are asking colleagues to vote for what you want as well that's really no different to cheating with bots

But the vote results will not show comnunity opinion. Two men decide future of coin. Of course if one of them not dev. In this case devs decided everything already.

Think of it like this if people need 2000 coins to get a masternode and because of people having to buy more doubles the price of the coin then it's no different than 1000 at half the price as the coins you are getting are now worth twice as much.

The coins I will getting will worth twice only if I will have working MN. But first I will have to buy 1000 coins by doubled price.
In case MN will cost 10 000 GOA I will have to buy 9000 coins by x10 price.
And PoS+MN mean I can't mine requred coins with my rig.
Excellent prospects!
I bought 1000 GOA by $9 and I don't want buy another 9000 GOA neither by ¢5 nor even more by ¢50.
If devs want to raise the price of a coin they should solve this problem and MN owner do not have to pay for it.
I think best way is raise MN cost on 500 GOA per month. All new coins will be used to support work MNs. The deficit of coins will cause increase of price. Constant deficite for a months.
But i believe devs just will set new MN price and everyone who don't have 10 000 GOA will suffer.

I agree with what you say regarding community opinion but what you have done wont show community opinion either.

You wont have to buy 1000 coins at double the price is you buy first.

I get PoS+MN means you cant mine required coins but then GOA isn't even close to being the best coin to mine profit wise, If you want more coins then really you should mine a more profitable coin and then sell that coin and buy Goa from that which will in turn rise the price of Goa, Win Win.

[Mike_IG]

Lol, another 5 votes comes in few minutes.
I would like to understand what this guy trying to achieve by his actions.
10 GOA per block instead of 20 GOA - ROI decrease twice.
10 000 GOA for MN - ROI decrease tenfold.
Nobody will buy shitcoins for MN with ROI 25%.

You are missing a few key points from the above.

The ROI would only decrease tenfold if EVERY masternode purchased the extra 9000 coins each , There are currently 689 MN that means 6210000 would be needed to be purchased to get them all online, There are only 12500 (so just over 1 MN worth) available on Crypto-Bridge at the moment.

The ROI on this coin at the moment is some stupidly high figure (currently takes just 67 days to get money back at current rates), That figure cant be sustained, I'm not saying 10000 coins and 10 reward block is the right number but 1000 coins and 20 reward definately isn't correct, the increase in reward coins is one of the reasons in the first place why the price crashed.

[scred]

Hi guys.

May someone tell me what does mean "OUTPOINT_SPENT" when I start my Masternode?
It doesn't stay active, Status is "OUPTPOINT_SPENT" then it turns as "MISSING".

Thank you

[Mike_IG]

Hi guys.

May someone tell me what does mean "OUTPOINT_SPENT" when I start my Masternode?
It doesn't stay active, Status is "OUPTPOINT_SPENT" then it turns as "MISSING".

Thank you

Not heard of that before but at a guess I'd say that either you've not waited for enough confirmed transactions when sending the coins or one or both of the wallets are not fully synced (are they both on the latest block?).