Supposed ASIC Scrypt Miner | Scrypt ASIC International

[ohiwastedmylif]

http://scryptasic.org/

500 Watt PSU pushing 50,000 Kh/s avg.

Feasibility of this?

/Discuss

[OnlyC]

A company with wordpress as Homepage?
Who can trust them?

[relm9]

It is an obvious scam.

[ohiwastedmylif]

That is the hash rate of around 77 7950 GPUs clocked at 650Kh/s.
Something comparative to 230GB of GDDR5.
It would require 25,000 Watts (at least) to run a 7950-based comparative rig.

These numbers seem way too far off to be legitimate for a memory intensive algorithm.

[skull88]

[FiiNALiZE]

LOL their image of the "ASIC" is a Cooler Master

http://www.coolermaster-usa.com/product.php?product_id=10020

Next time, copy & paste the image URL into Google image search and see what comes up.

Why would they need one of those for an ASIC.

Edit: Also their dimensions are off and they say their ASIC only weighs 4kg while the case alone weighs ~8kg.

[seleme]

Whata a joke, lol

[skull88]

LOL their image of the "ASIC" is a Cooler Master

http://www.coolermaster-usa.com/product.php?product_id=10020

Next time, copy & paste the image URL into Google image search and see what comes up.

Why would they need one of those for an ASIC.

Edit: Also their dimensions are off and they say their ASIC only weighs 4kg while the case alone weighs ~8kg.

No need for Google if the logo on the case says Cooler Master.
But why would that imply a scam?

Don't get me wrong, this is a scam, but I don't see what that has to do with using Cooler Master cases?

edit: ok the weight/dimensions

[FiiNALiZE]

LOL their image of the "ASIC" is a Cooler Master

http://www.coolermaster-usa.com/product.php?product_id=10020

Next time, copy & paste the image URL into Google image search and see what comes up.

Why would they need one of those for an ASIC.

Edit: Also their dimensions are off and they say their ASIC only weighs 4kg while the case alone weighs ~8kg.

No need for Google if the logo on the case says Cooler Master.
But why would that imply a scam?

Don't get me wrong, this is a scam, but I don't see what that has to do with using Cooler Master cases?

edit: ok the weight/dimensions

Plus, who in their right mind would use that case when designing an ASIC?

The layout just isn't made for that; there are much better cases out there for boards.

And if they have the time/resources to make a Scrypt ASIC, they definitely would have time to design their own case.

[Operatr]

Well, lets go down the list shall we-

CEO not revealing who he actually is, or who the team is: Check
Half-assed website: Check
Outrageous performance claims with zero evidence or screenshots: Check
Claims to have hardware but provides zero evidence or photos: Check
Stock photo of a PC case as a product image: Check
ID protection on domain: Check


The only thing that says "wishful thinking" more than scam to me is the fact they at least have no buy button on there yet.


That aside Scrypt ASIC, like any ASIC, requires a lot of R&D capital, I just can't see it being viable yet with Litecoin's current valuation. And given Scrypt ASICs would not give nearly the performance gains like SHA coins did, they may not be much better than FPGAs for price/performance.

Looks plenty scammy but is so far harmless until they start accepting orders

[ohiwastedmylif]

LOL their image of the "ASIC" is a Cooler Master

http://www.coolermaster-usa.com/product.php?product_id=10020

Next time, copy & paste the image URL into Google image search and see what comes up.

Why would they need one of those for an ASIC.

Edit: Also their dimensions are off and they say their ASIC only weighs 4kg while the case alone weighs ~8kg.

They have to put it in something. Nothing wrong with using an existing case for a product. It clearly says the cooler master logo on the front of it...

Worst reply ever haha.

The case is totally fine it fits 2 full size GPUs in it. But the mathematics still do not work out with output vs power usage vs required memory

[FiiNALiZE]

LOL their image of the "ASIC" is a Cooler Master

http://www.coolermaster-usa.com/product.php?product_id=10020

Next time, copy & paste the image URL into Google image search and see what comes up.

Why would they need one of those for an ASIC.

Edit: Also their dimensions are off and they say their ASIC only weighs 4kg while the case alone weighs ~8kg.

They have to put it in something. Nothing wrong with using an existing case for a product. It clearly says the cooler master logo on the front of it...

Worst reply ever haha.

The case is totally fine it fits 2 full size GPUs in it. But the mathematics still do not work out with output vs power usage vs required memory

So why are their dimensions and weight off by so much? 

I can't expect an 8kg case to suddenly go down to 4kg after installing the boards + psu, even if they remove some of the crap inside.

[ohiwastedmylif]

LOL their image of the "ASIC" is a Cooler Master

http://www.coolermaster-usa.com/product.php?product_id=10020

Next time, copy & paste the image URL into Google image search and see what comes up.

Why would they need one of those for an ASIC.

Edit: Also their dimensions are off and they say their ASIC only weighs 4kg while the case alone weighs ~8kg.

They have to put it in something. Nothing wrong with using an existing case for a product. It clearly says the cooler master logo on the front of it...

Worst reply ever haha.

The case is totally fine it fits 2 full size GPUs in it. But the mathematics still do not work out with output vs power usage vs required memory

So why are their dimensions and weight off by so much?  

I can't expect an 8kg case to suddenly go down to 4kg after installing the boards + psu, even if they remove some of the crap inside.

Not commenting on that. That is just a blatant fail on their part. Even more proof they are scammers.

You just wrote some Sherlock response to something blatantly known, it was a CM case.

[FiiNALiZE]

LOL their image of the "ASIC" is a Cooler Master

http://www.coolermaster-usa.com/product.php?product_id=10020

Next time, copy & paste the image URL into Google image search and see what comes up.

Why would they need one of those for an ASIC.

Edit: Also their dimensions are off and they say their ASIC only weighs 4kg while the case alone weighs ~8kg.

They have to put it in something. Nothing wrong with using an existing case for a product. It clearly says the cooler master logo on the front of it...

Worst reply ever haha.

The case is totally fine it fits 2 full size GPUs in it. But the mathematics still do not work out with output vs power usage vs required memory

So why are their dimensions and weight off by so much?  

I can't expect an 8kg case to suddenly go down to 4kg after installing the boards + psu, even if they remove some of the crap inside.

Not commenting on that. That is just a blatant fail on their part. Even more proof they are scammers.

You just wrote some Sherlock response to something blatantly known, it was a CM case.

lol I was just pointing that out in case someone didn't notice.

It is a lot less efficient to use a prebuilt case as you'll have to design your boards to their specifications.

Anyways, I sent them a message about why their dimensions & weight are off.

Should be fun reading the reply 

[skull88]

LOL their image of the "ASIC" is a Cooler Master

http://www.coolermaster-usa.com/product.php?product_id=10020

Next time, copy & paste the image URL into Google image search and see what comes up.

Why would they need one of those for an ASIC.

Edit: Also their dimensions are off and they say their ASIC only weighs 4kg while the case alone weighs ~8kg.

No need for Google if the logo on the case says Cooler Master.
But why would that imply a scam?

Don't get me wrong, this is a scam, but I don't see what that has to do with using Cooler Master cases?

edit: ok the weight/dimensions

Plus, who in their right mind would use that case when designing an ASIC?

The layout just isn't made for that; there are much better cases out there for boards.

And if they have the time/resources to make a Scrypt ASIC, they definitely would have time to design their own case.

To be honest, if I would have the capabilities and the funds to produce ASIC's, I probably wouldn't bother with designing and producing a fancy case.
It would only drive up the costs and people would buy it anyhow, I would just look for a case that fits and that's it. Don't think any miner would say "Cool a Scrypt ASIC, but I'm not buying it without an exclusive case!"  

[DeathAndTaxes]

Something comparative to 230GB of GDDR5.

Um it is certainly a scam but what does 230 GB of GDDR5 have to do with anything?  You do realize Script uses none of the main memory on a GPU.  The main memory has far too much latency (latency for loading from GPU main memory is about 200-300 clock cycles).

A GPU which needed to use main memory would work for 10-20 clock cycles and then up to 300 (totally idle) and then work 10-20 and then wait up to 300, etc.  That is the whole point of scrypt.  A GPU which needs to use main memory on GPU would be beyond useless for hashing however the scrypt used by Litecoin (and others) is intentionally weakened to only use 128KB about 1% of what is recommended for LOW SECURITY (i.e. realtime logins) applications.  That's right Kilobytes of memory.  It uses the L1 cache located on the GPU processor itself (much like it uses L1,L2,L3 cache on a CPU).

[ohiwastedmylif]

Something comparative to 230GB of GDDR5.

Um it is certainly a scam but what does 230 GB of GDDR5 have to do with anything?  You do realize Script uses none of the main memory on a GPU.  The main memory has far too much latency (latency for loading from GPU main memory is about 200-300 clock cycles).

A GPU which needed to use main memory would work for 10-20 clock cycles and then up to 300 (totally idle) and then work 10-20 and then wait up to 300, etc.  That is the whole point of scrypt.  A GPU which needs to use main memory on GPU would be beyond useless for hashing however the scrypt used by Litecoin (and others) is intentionally weakened to only use 128KB about 1% of what is recommended for LOW SECURITY (i.e. realtime logins) applications.  That's right Kilobytes of memory.  It uses the L1 cache located on the GPU processor itself (much like it uses L1,L2,L3 cache on a CPU).

I was just using numbers based on 7950 stats.

How much memory do you think it would need to hash at that rate? You seem more knowledgeable than most at requirements.

Do you think it is actually feasible?

[Tomatocage]

Um it is certainly a scam but what does 230 GB of GDDR5 have to do with anything?  You do realize Script uses none of the main memory on a GPU.  The main memory has far too much latency (latency for loading from GPU main memory is about 200-300 clock cycles).

A GPU which needed to use main memory would work for 10-20 clock cycles and then up to 300 (totally idle) and then work 10-20 and then wait up to 300, etc.  That is the whole point of scrypt.  A GPU which needs to use main memory on GPU would be beyond useless for hashing however the scrypt used by Litecoin (and others) is intentionally weakened to only use 128KB about 1% of what is recommended for LOW SECURITY (i.e. realtime logins) applications.  That's right Kilobytes of memory.  It uses the L1 cache located on the GPU processor itself (much like it uses L1,L2,L3 cache on a CPU).

DaT > *

[theokep]

These guys are a little late in the game, I've had one of those for over year and mine uses a 24 liter water bottle as cooling reservoir.

Not even BFL is ignorant to peddle 50,000 KHS ASIC miners that use only 500W LOL..

~BCX~


https://i.imgur.com/CWmU24q.jpg

lol, so true. This smells of scam; the specs are not even kind of plausible. BFL wanted to but they figured that their current scam operation was better

[heatgsm]

Buy buy buy....