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December 17, 2017, 08:24:09 PM
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Yeah so I'm looking to get started with mining. To start I'll only be using 1 or 2 of these graphics cards which is why I'm very interested in knowing what I could give a better hash rate for Etherium mining. I will also look into mining Dash, Monero, and Litecoin if that's still possible.

Again, this will be my first time mining so I'm only going to get 1 or 2 gpus to start. I'm looking for a new computer tower anyway so it won't even just be for mining, maybe gaming as well.
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December 17, 2017, 09:06:19 PM
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I am just a little bit farther along than you in getting into mining and I found out the hard way that new GTX 1060 cards are much worse at mining Ethereum (or any other Ethash coin) than an RX 570 I bought right off the shelf from Best Buy. The RX 570 has two separate BIOS installed that you can select with a switch - gaming and mining - and when I moved it from gaming to mining hashrate went from 21.6 to around 24 MH/s. Then when I selected "Compute" workload in the AMD Adrenalin driver and pushed the memclock ever so slightly (to 1880; any higher than that was unstable) I got to 25.5 MH/s. People here say that if I load custom memory timings into the BIOS I should be able to get to 29 MH/s, and maybe I'll try that later on, but for now I am pretty happy with the performance. I'm mining Ubiq, though, and not Ethereum, mainly because it was too depressing watching my earnings increase at the rate of about 0.003 ETH per day (compared to around 1 UBQ per day).


EDIT - I should mention I have 2 desktops and one I am going to put (2) RX 570 in for mining Ethash coins (UBQ, ETH, etc.) and the other is going to get (2) GTX 1060 and will be used for Lyra2v2 (VTC), Neoscrypt (FTC) and Equihash (ZEC/ZEN) coins.




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December 17, 2017, 09:23:09 PM
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I am just a little bit farther along than you in getting into mining and I found out the hard way that new GTX 1060 cards are much worse at mining Ethereum (or any other Ethash coin) than an RX 570 I bought right off the shelf from Best Buy. The RX 570 has two separate BIOS installed that you can select with a switch - gaming and mining - and when I moved it from gaming to mining hashrate went from 21.6 to around 24 MH/s. Then when I selected "Compute" workload in the AMD Adrenalin driver and pushed the memclock ever so slightly (to 1880; any higher than that was unstable) I got to 25.5 MH/s. People here say that if I load custom memory timings into the BIOS I should be able to get to 29 MH/s, and maybe I'll try that later on, but for now I am pretty happy with the performance. I'm mining Ubiq, though, and not Ethereum, mainly because it was too depressing watching my earnings increase at the rate of about 0.003 ETH per day (compared to around 1 UBQ per day).


EDIT - I should mention I have 2 desktops and one I am going to put (2) RX 570 in for mining Ethash coins (UBQ, ETH, etc.) and the other is going to get (2) GTX 1060 and will be used for Lyra2v2 (VTC), Neoscrypt (FTC) and Equihash (ZEC/ZEN) coins.


Thanks, that's very helpful. I'm guessing RX 580 will do even a little better than 570.

So it sounds like GTX isn't wrong if you're going to buy those as well but each is better for different coins.

0.003 of ETH a day actually doesn't sound bad for a single card, especially if the price keeps rising, but I guess you can get more by mining lesser coins and then perhaps trading for ETH or BTC. If I can get a 25 mh/s rate for Etherium mining I would consider that a great start.
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December 17, 2017, 09:49:18 PM
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With older Sapphire RX580 and MSI 570 (4Gb) it can be pushed to 30m on Eth in dual with DCR 3000.
Yes new ones are with bad memory chips, lower speeds, sadly. Sad

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December 17, 2017, 09:58:32 PM
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With older Sapphire RX580 and MSI 570 (4Gb) it can be pushed to 30m on Eth in dual with DCR 3000.
Yes new ones are with bad memory chips, lower speeds, sadly. Sad

30mh/s would be wonderful but anything over 20 I'll consider acceptable and worth it to start.
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December 17, 2017, 10:35:18 PM
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Thanks, that's very helpful. I'm guessing RX 580 will do even a little better than 570.

The 580 is supposed to be about 10% better at Ethash, from what I understand. That depends greatly on the brand of memory and how you do in the "silicon lottery" (ie - some cards - even with the same memory - overclock better than others). My specific RX 570 (from Best Buy) is the XXX edition by XFX.

So it sounds like GTX isn't wrong if you're going to buy those as well but each is better for different coins.

Absolutely, it's just that specifically for Ethash coins the most recent models of the GTX 1060 - pretty much regardless of manufacturer, it seems - now come with crappy memory that dropped the hashrate from ~24 MH/s down to around 19 MH/s. Equihash mining - which is much less memory intensive - seems to be unaffected, so the superior performance of the Nvidia cards at this algorithm persists.

...If I can get a 25 mh/s rate for Etherium mining I would consider that a great start.

Then a stock RX 570 (as long as it has the dual BIOS feature /or/ you are willing to void your warranty modding the BIOS) should get you done. Like you, I'm starting off modestly with just 2 card rigs and I concluded that the RX 570 offered the best bang for the buck when it comes to Ethash coins; it was a much tougher decision for the NVIDIA rig, as I was really tempted to go with a single 1070 Ti to start, but some Asus dual fan ("white edition") 1060 3GB popped up on Newegg for $189.99 (after rebate, limit 2) so I pulled the trigger on 2 of them. That gets me around 20% more hashrate on Equihash for $70 less (yes, I am well aware of the density vs. $/hashrate tradeoffs, which is why choosing an NVIDIA card was so difficult).

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December 17, 2017, 10:49:38 PM
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Then a stock RX 570 (as long as it has the dual BIOS feature /or/ you are willing to void your warranty modding the BIOS) should get you done. Like you, I'm starting off modestly with just 2 card rigs and I concluded that the RX 570 offered the best bang for the buck when it comes to Ethash coins; it was a much tougher decision for the NVIDIA rig, as I was really tempted to go with a single 1070 Ti to start, but some Asus dual fan ("white edition") 1060 3GB popped up on Newegg for $189.99 (after rebate, limit 2) so I pulled the trigger on 2 of them. That gets me around 20% more hashrate on Equihash for $70 less (yes, I am well aware of the density vs. $/hashrate tradeoffs, which is why choosing an NVIDIA card was so difficult).


How do I know if it's duel bios? I probably will buy a whole computer with an rx580 already in it since I need a new tower anyway. All it said was it was 4gb.
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December 17, 2017, 11:12:14 PM
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How do I know if it's duel bios? I probably will buy a whole computer with an rx580 already in it since I need a new tower anyway. All it said was it was 4gb.

Ask if it comes with a lance or a pistol... for dueling!  Grin

J/k... Ask the builder for the brand/model of the video card and look it up. If searching on the interwebz reveals that it doesn't come with a dual BIOS you can still mod the timings on the stock BIOS, it's just that you'll void the warranty for the card.

Personally, I didn't feel that getting an extra 3.5 MH/s of hashrate on Ethash (worth 0.17USD per day mining UBQ right at this moment) was worth voiding the warranty on my RX 570.
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