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December 20, 2017, 11:46:48 AM
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Hello, everyone!

I used to use KRYPTOKIT since 2014. Just to receive, never as a sender.
Turns out, nowdays no one is managing the app. And there is a standard fee to send BTC: 0,0002 btc.

I've made 2 transactions at Dez, 6 - but no confirmations yet.

c5f176950ecea942b9acd4c296c9651dcd1660330de6a6381386e579b3dcc525
5f8db4c18782640d4d379c935c34f5e91309733a963dd99f17b1e78654890592

Both transactions appeared in my new wallet, but with 0 confirmations.

Then, I tried resending these funds, from the new wallet to a third wallet (with higher fee).
So, 2 new transactions were made, which haven't been confirmed as well.

cb7158597990cbafd34d817f7bc0e3ee26139b601797fe811fd0ec2ae358934e
caa05faddc3eea5a649bb566d38823804b338b5b3acdb9eae51e33a3471039ed

My questions are:

1. Is there any way to speed it up? (i already tried Viabtc, but they are always full)
2. If i do nothing, will it eventually go throught?

Thank you
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December 21, 2017, 02:31:25 AM
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Same problem here.
Transaction stuck for 2 weeks and still there.

I don't understand why the Blockchain protocol does not have a timeout after which an unconfirmed transaction is automatically rejected/forgotten by the nodes.
Why didn't the developers implemented that ?
It was a so obvious solution

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December 21, 2017, 05:26:49 AM
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Why don't you just use a newer wallet, solves all problems  Roll Eyes
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December 21, 2017, 06:09:02 AM
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112 sat/B is not much higher than 89.29 sat/B. You should put something in order of 1000 sat/B for second tx in order to get into next block. Given that it's 500 sat/B at the moment and you have to make up for first tx. Or wait over weekend it may go through.
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December 21, 2017, 06:10:39 AM
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Same problem here.
Transaction stuck for 2 weeks and still there.

I don't understand why the Blockchain protocol does not have a timeout after which an unconfirmed transaction is automatically rejected/forgotten by the nodes.
Why didn't the developers implemented that ?
It was a so obvious solution

Or maybe the timeout is there, but it lasts until the next block is found?
So usually 2 weeks, but can be more if the miners are slow.

I will have to read some technical papers to find the answer.
In the meantime if somebody can explain this, i would appreciate.

Thanks

RBF is exactly what you need. It's already implemented. Just use it next time.
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December 21, 2017, 06:27:30 AM
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Almost all the fees you gave were low at the time you made the transactions. The latest transaction you made had a fee around 480 satoshis which was good but by the time you made that transaction the fees were raised more higher. If you had given the fees of 480 satoshis during your first transaction then it would have confirmed within minutes. The BTC network is too congested and the fees are keeping on increasing. This is why your transaction is not getting confirmed. Next you do a transaction make sure you have set the optimum fee for it. To know the current mining fee look here : https://btc.com/stats/unconfirmed-tx














 

 

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December 21, 2017, 10:13:38 AM
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I've made 2 transactions at Dez, 6 - but no confirmations yet.

c5f176950ecea942b9acd4c296c9651dcd1660330de6a6381386e579b3dcc525
5f8db4c18782640d4d379c935c34f5e91309733a963dd99f17b1e78654890592

Then, I tried resending these funds, from the new wallet to a third wallet (with higher fee).
So, 2 new transactions were made, which haven't been confirmed as well.

cb7158597990cbafd34d817f7bc0e3ee26139b601797fe811fd0ec2ae358934e
caa05faddc3eea5a649bb566d38823804b338b5b3acdb9eae51e33a3471039ed

you have chained unconfirmed transactions, you made it worse as you keep using unconfirmed unspents
your first tx 5f8db4c187... created 2 outputs [1] 17WiHq6QK and [2] 16etzQM3g
[2] used in your 2nd tx c5f176950e... created an output [3] 1F4HAf7WM
then you created a 3rd tx cb71585979... using [1] and [3] to have outputs [4] 1DvUehtw9 and 1MywRVguJ
and then you used [4] in your 4th tx, the flow can be seen as follows
Code:
   tx1   tx2   tx3   tx4  
16etzQM3g ──[1]───────┬─[4]───[5] 1SkHiU9Qp
   [2]───[3]─┘
I suggest try double spend using all original inputs of 1st tx and send straight to 1DvUehtw9
by any chance you can extract privkeys from your KRYPTOKIT wallet?
btw please state what other wallets (new) you use to make us easier to give you advise next time

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December 21, 2017, 04:00:49 PM
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I've made 2 transactions at Dez, 6 - but no confirmations yet.

c5f176950ecea942b9acd4c296c9651dcd1660330de6a6381386e579b3dcc525
5f8db4c18782640d4d379c935c34f5e91309733a963dd99f17b1e78654890592

Then, I tried resending these funds, from the new wallet to a third wallet (with higher fee).
So, 2 new transactions were made, which haven't been confirmed as well.

cb7158597990cbafd34d817f7bc0e3ee26139b601797fe811fd0ec2ae358934e
caa05faddc3eea5a649bb566d38823804b338b5b3acdb9eae51e33a3471039ed

you have chained unconfirmed transactions, you made it worse as you keep using unconfirmed unspents
your first tx 5f8db4c187... created 2 outputs [1] 17WiHq6QK and [2] 16etzQM3g
[2] used in your 2nd tx c5f176950e... created an output [3] 1F4HAf7WM
then you created a 3rd tx cb71585979... using [1] and [3] to have outputs [4] 1DvUehtw9 and 1MywRVguJ
and then you used [4] in your 4th tx, the flow can be seen as follows
Code:
   tx1   tx2   tx3   tx4  
16etzQM3g ──[1]───────┬─[4]───[5] 1SkHiU9Qp
   [2]───[3]─┘
I suggest try double spend using all original inputs of 1st tx and send straight to 1DvUehtw9
by any chance you can extract privkeys from your KRYPTOKIT wallet?
btw please state what other wallets (new) you use to make us easier to give you advise next time

1st wallet (original) was Kryptokit - which has the 0,0002 standard fee (i dont have any 12-24 words, just a backup file in a flashdrive)
2nd wallet was Blockchain.info (that was before i read lot of negative reviews on it)
3rd wallet (currently using) is Breadwallet, in which i "have" these funds right now.

What should i do to make all these transactions go throught? Just wait? Resend from the 3rd wallet, with an even higher fee, to a new adress?
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December 25, 2017, 09:28:12 PM
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I just got my confirmations!

I suppose the network got descongested in the last few days, and the miners picked up the last 2 transactions from the second wallet, and all of it got confirmed. Maybe something else haha

Anyway, thank you all for the help!
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