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July 30, 2013, 05:58:50 PM
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Leawood KS Police already have a file opened.

Contact this person who is heading up the investigation:


JohnF@leawood.org

Det. John Freeman   (913) 642-5555 X209


But what laws could they have violated in local jurisdiction?  Eliminate all crimes against person (which corporations cannot engage in) from local jurisdiction, and you're pretty much left with traffic, substance abuse, and property code violations. 

Things like wire fraud are federal in scope; securities law violations are possibly state, but never local.

Goodness you folks are so naive.

Local law enforcement does the investigation,
they can turn it over to the State Bureau of Investigation  (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kansas_Bureau_of_Investigation)
or turn it over to the FBI

It has to start somewhere.

 

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July 30, 2013, 09:16:47 PM
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Leawood KS Police already have a file opened.

Contact this person who is heading up the investigation:


JohnF@leawood.org

Det. John Freeman   (913) 642-5555 X209


But what laws could they have violated in local jurisdiction?  Eliminate all crimes against person (which corporations cannot engage in) from local jurisdiction, and you're pretty much left with traffic, substance abuse, and property code violations. 

Things like wire fraud are federal in scope; securities law violations are possibly state, but never local.

Goodness you folks are so naive.

Local law enforcement does the investigation,
they can turn it over to the State Bureau of Investigation  (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kansas_Bureau_of_Investigation)
or turn it over to the FBI

It has to start somewhere.

 

You can also contact Secret Service if its over $10,000 worth.
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July 30, 2013, 09:20:37 PM
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You can also contact Secret Service if its over $10,000 worth.

 I'm going to step out on a limb here and disagree with this. Unless you are the leader of country, I doubt the Secret Service will be able to help you in this matter.
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July 30, 2013, 09:25:22 PM
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You can also contact Secret Service if its over $10,000 worth.

 I'm going to step out on a limb here and disagree with this. Unless you are the leader of country, I doubt the Secret Service will be able to help you in this matter.

See below link for what Secret Service covers.

I once was the victim of fraud, i contacted the Secret Service.  

http://www.secretservice.gov/criminal.shtml

If i still remember it correctly the limit has to be at least $10k.  This was back in year 2000.
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July 30, 2013, 09:26:25 PM
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Leawood KS Police already have a file opened.

Contact this person who is heading up the investigation:


JohnF@leawood.org

Det. John Freeman   (913) 642-5555 X209


But what laws could they have violated in local jurisdiction?  Eliminate all crimes against person (which corporations cannot engage in) from local jurisdiction, and you're pretty much left with traffic, substance abuse, and property code violations. 

Things like wire fraud are federal in scope; securities law violations are possibly state, but never local.

Goodness you folks are so naive.

Local law enforcement does the investigation,
they can turn it over to the State Bureau of Investigation  (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kansas_Bureau_of_Investigation)
or turn it over to the FBI

It has to start somewhere.

 

You can also contact Secret Service if its over $10,000 worth.

It's not like the Secret Service has a office across the street from one of BFL's known addresses. Or is it? http://www.ckfraud.org/secretsrv.html

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KANSAS CITY 816-460-0600
1150 GRAND AVE
KANSAS CITY, MO 64106

Hey, Joe, go check out this 25 E. 12th St. address.
Goddamn it! Why do I have to be the one to walk across the street to do this?
Buy you lunch at Zaina's.
You're on!

<few minutes later>

Very funny, Mac! Zaina's was closed. Here's my report.
Hehehe!
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July 30, 2013, 09:28:57 PM
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they deal with anything monetary fraud because they are associated with the United States Treasury.

Fraud, Counterfeit, Scams, Money Laundering and more.
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July 30, 2013, 09:33:39 PM
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I once was the victim of fraud, i contacted the Secret Service.  
http://www.secretservice.gov/criminal.shtml

 TIL... Thanks for that.
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July 30, 2013, 09:37:02 PM
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You can also contact Secret Service if its over $10,000 worth.

 I'm going to step out on a limb here and disagree with this. Unless you are the leader of country, I doubt the Secret Service will be able to help you in this matter.

See below link for what Secret Service covers.

I once was the victim of fraud, i contacted the Secret Service.  

http://www.secretservice.gov/criminal.shtml

If i still remember it correctly the limit has to be at least $10k.  This was back in year 2000.

I think this is the wrong approach.

The Secret Service is not going to allocate valuable resources to investigate uncertified electronical devices prone to heat up and possible catch fire when remotely overclocked by entities in Russia, China, etc., housed in high-rises filled with 100's of people and sensitive data center equipment, when the worse that could happen is the sprinkler system would kick on, thus disrupting a multimillion dollar nerve center.

Since that's not going to happen, I suggest we continue the no permit route. That'll learnt BFL to mess with us monumental assholes.
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July 31, 2013, 08:29:03 AM
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The good thing about BFL Jalepenos is that, in theory, they aren't supposed to give you bad breath.

Just thinking about BFL Jalapenos will give you constipation and/or diarrhea.

Butterfly Labs has a different interpretation of the FTC Mail Order Rule.  You do not have a refund option with the BFL Monarch no matter how late they ship.
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July 31, 2013, 08:48:38 AM
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what's stopping him to produce miners and give them to their customers ?  *Money*
These guys started collecting money to make a dream mining  machine, when they got enough funds they started working on it and finally made it but they thought if they started shipping miners, people will make alot money and they will get nothing.

Why?

If people will get their miners on time they will start making bitcoins in huge quantity and try to dump them for cash and price will fall.

So they thought to keep peoples unassembled miners and started mining with them since last year and they shipped few hundred orders so they can get more investments.

I am also sure that they have invested money in some exchange sites to dump their bitcoins for cash every month..


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August 01, 2013, 02:27:28 AM
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quote BFL_Jody

Tuesday, July 30, 2013 Shipping Update
136 Comments  Go to first new comment
by BFL_Jody  , 07-30-2013 at 09:49 PM (3549 Views)
Jalapenos still shipping Nov 14, 2012 pay date

Little Singles shipping June 25, 2012 pay date

Singles June 24-26 pay dates (no orders from June 23 shipped)

MiniRigs from June 23 shipped.

Today was a very good day at BFL. A lot of units built, tested and shipped. Thanks to the person who said they got tracking numbers. Most of the people we ship to don't post on this forum because if they did we would be seeing many posts about getting tracking numbers. Really, if this blog makes you so angry, why read it? Reading my boring blog is not going to make your order ship faster.

Address Change Specialist is not their titles. It's just that I have a couple of guys working for me that are very good and careful with address changes. We never said we would not change your address--that was a competitor who said that. We only said we are not shipping to someone else if you sell the item.

The rat terrier is packing up his toys to go home. The chickens say, "Good riddance. We have a lot of business to do on the porch once we get rid of that dog."

https://forums.butterflylabs.com/blogs/bfl_jody/259-tuesday-july-30-2013-shipping-update.html



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August 01, 2013, 02:41:36 AM
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quote BFL_Jody

Tuesday, July 30, 2013 Shipping Update
136 Comments  Go to first new comment
by BFL_Jody  , 07-30-2013 at 09:49 PM (3549 Views)
Jalapenos still shipping Nov 14, 2012 pay date

Little Singles shipping June 25, 2012 pay date

Singles June 24-26 pay dates (no orders from June 23 shipped)

MiniRigs from June 23 shipped.

Today was a very good day at BFL. A lot of units built, tested and shipped. Thanks to the person who said they got tracking numbers. Most of the people we ship to don't post on this forum because if they did we would be seeing many posts about getting tracking numbers. Really, if this blog makes you so angry, why read it? Reading my boring blog is not going to make your order ship faster.

Address Change Specialist is not their titles. It's just that I have a couple of guys working for me that are very good and careful with address changes. We never said we would not change your address--that was a competitor who said that. We only said we are not shipping to someone else if you sell the item.

The rat terrier is packing up his toys to go home. The chickens say, "Good riddance. We have a lot of business to do on the porch once we get rid of that dog."

https://forums.butterflylabs.com/blogs/bfl_jody/259-tuesday-july-30-2013-shipping-update.html


For the above red text to make any sense, they would have had to assembled, tested and shipped over 3-400 units on this date, for since July 4, 2013, that's the volume they've already proclaimed.

My guess is about 100, 200 tops, and this makes Jody jump up and down. I can only imagine two dozen people staring through the window separating Jody's desk and the warehouse, as they watch in amazement the process.

Now, I'm going to read the 136 comments on Jody's post to see how right I am.
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August 01, 2013, 03:04:28 AM
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Leawood KS Police already have a file opened.

Contact this person who is heading up the investigation:


JohnF@leawood.org

Det. John Freeman   (913) 642-5555 X209


But what laws could they have violated in local jurisdiction?  Eliminate all crimes against person (which corporations cannot engage in) from local jurisdiction, and you're pretty much left with traffic, substance abuse, and property code violations. 

Things like wire fraud are federal in scope; securities law violations are possibly state, but never local.

Goodness you folks are so naive.

Local law enforcement does the investigation,
they can turn it over to the State Bureau of Investigation  (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kansas_Bureau_of_Investigation)
or turn it over to the FBI

It has to start somewhere.

 
You have a point there, and I'll stand corrected.
 
It's just that it seems to me that any possible crimes or regulation-violations are so clearly Federal in scope, that it seemed odd to me that a local KC detective would be involved.
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August 01, 2013, 04:11:36 AM
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Halfway through the 136 posts and guess what I learnt? My BFL bashing on this forum is nothing compared to what I've read over there.

To be clear, when I post, a majority of the time I do such prior to reading what's taking place over at Camp BFL Blog & Forum.

There's a post on that blog showing an image of the Titanic. I'm sure it's suppose to mean something, but it eludes me. I'm pretty sure it doesn't mean somebody's ship is coming in.

Has anybody else noticed that Sonny Vleisides has posted anywhere for several months now?
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August 01, 2013, 05:22:10 AM
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Halfway through the 136 posts and guess what I learnt? My BFL bashing on this forum is nothing compared to what I've read over there.

To be clear, when I post, a majority of the time I do such prior to reading what's taking place over at Camp BFL Blog & Forum.

There's a post on that blog showing an image of the Titanic. I'm sure it's suppose to mean something, but it eludes me. I'm pretty sure it doesn't mean somebody's ship is coming in.

Has anybody else noticed that Sonny Vleisides has posted anywhere for several months now?

Awesome

Can u post some links as I love to watch  as these (insert foul language here ) finally get what they deserve

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August 01, 2013, 05:37:28 AM
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Halfway through the 136 posts and guess what I learnt? My BFL bashing on this forum is nothing compared to what I've read over there.

To be clear, when I post, a majority of the time I do such prior to reading what's taking place over at Camp BFL Blog & Forum.

There's a post on that blog showing an image of the Titanic. I'm sure it's suppose to mean something, but it eludes me. I'm pretty sure it doesn't mean somebody's ship is coming in.

Has anybody else noticed that Sonny Vleisides has posted anywhere for several months now?

Awesome

Can u post some links as I love to watch  as these (insert foul language here ) finally get what they deserve

One guy honestly believes that 1/3 X 3 is still in play, even after he was corrected.

Josh just posted over there, commenting on GPUs.

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August 01, 2013, 05:42:54 AM
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quote BFL_Josh

"Once again, we aren't discussing that in this particular context. We are discussing why some people can't post in the shoutbox.

As to why people are banned, if you want to post like a child or be a troll, then, well... go to Bitcointalk. They love trolls there. If you want to act like an adult, well then, you're welcome here."

https://forums.butterflylabs.com/bfl-forum-miscellaneous/4102-butterfly-labs-protest-5.html#post50228

BFL forum

"A lot of the posts and people who gets disappeared are not spamming in the sense that they are selling or advertising something...

Just pointing out things that are inconvenient. It's enough that Caesar gets annoyed and label it as "spam"."

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August 01, 2013, 05:47:57 AM
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As to why people are banned, if you want to post like a child or be a troll, then, well... go to Bitcointalk. They love trolls there. If you want to act like an adult, well then, you're welcome here."

 It speaks to a lack of principles and shame to hate this place so much, yet spend so much advertising money here.

 Amusing comment coming from someone evidently incapable of acting as a rational adult, if his posting history is any indication into his psyche.
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August 01, 2013, 06:00:51 AM
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Halfway through the 136 posts and guess what I learnt? My BFL bashing on this forum is nothing compared to what I've read over there.

 This is the truly staggering part to take in, and again, speaks to a truly bleed-edge technological breakthrough in their Reality Distortion endeavors, to speak nothing of their high quality Bitcoin ASIC mining products.

 Despite all the community outrage and disillusionment here, even with the active censoring and post deletions, it's still worse of a shit-show there than these forums will ever be.

 The sycophantry on their forums often approaches nauseating levels.

 It's genuinely sad to see the BFL folk (Josh and Jody specifically) acting the way they do. Maybe they will learn better on their next project should their enterprise survive this present debacle.

EDIT: A gem.

https://forums.butterflylabs.com/pre-sales-questions/4105-hire-20-more-employees-assemble.html

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August 01, 2013, 07:09:21 AM
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I believe Josh was in NY for the conference. I wonder how he felt when BFL once again wasn't mention on any of the official flyers.

I must admit I feel sorry for him having to walk around alone knowing the people nearby are talking about him.

Rumor has it that one guy did have an in depth conversation with Josh until, that is, he realized Josh wasn't the new janitor.
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