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December 21, 2017, 06:22:28 AM
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At one stage in history you only had a few different main Churches. Over time, people saw a opportunity to make some money and they broke away from the main churches to create their own church.

They found some small technical problem with the main church and they broke away to create their own church that solve that problem for them. <so they say, but some people only did that to make some money from people who believed what they believed in and who followed them>

This is happening with Bitcoin now. People find something that would garner some support and then they splinter off to create their own little niche group. <Examples : Bitcoin Cash / Bitcoin Gold >

They still keep the Bitcoin word in their name, because it gives them legitimacy to be affiliated with the Mother of all coins.  

This creates opportunities for developers to be part of Bitcoin, even if it is not linked to the Mother coin. <We call them the WannabeCoins >

So if you cannot be part of the Mother coin, then you create your own LeechCoin and call it something with the word Bitcoin in it.  Roll Eyes

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December 21, 2017, 06:35:47 AM
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At one stage in history you only had a few different main Churches. Over time, people saw a opportunity to make some money and they broke away from the main churches to create their own church.

They found some small technical problem with the main church and they broke away to create their own church that solve that problem for them. <so they say, but some people only did that to make some money from people who believed what they believed in and who followed them>

This is happening with Bitcoin now. People find something that would garner some support and then they splinter off to create their own little niche group. <Examples : Bitcoin Cash / Bitcoin Gold >

They still keep the Bitcoin word in their name, because it gives them legitimacy to be affiliated with the Mother of all coins.  

This creates opportunities for developers to be part of Bitcoin, even if it is not linked to the Mother coin. <We call them the WannabeCoins >

So if you cannot be part of the Mother coin, then you create your own LeechCoin and call it something with the word Bitcoin in it.  Roll Eyes


Churches are also based on purely imaginary beliefs and hope, not any rational analysis. This is exactly like Bitcoin - it is all hopes and dreams with absolutely no solid footing at all. Bitcoin followers are just like the religiously devoted - anyone not cheering for Bitcoin are purely haters or "don't understand it". It will ultimately fail.
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December 21, 2017, 06:48:07 AM
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Churches are also based on purely imaginary beliefs and hope, not any rational analysis. This is exactly like Bitcoin - it is all hopes and dreams with absolutely no solid footing at all. Bitcoin followers are just like the religiously devoted - anyone not cheering for Bitcoin are purely haters or "don't understand it". It will ultimately fail.

Lmao saw an opening and took it didn't you? Anyway, I do agree that some people seem overly devoted. I love Bitcoin but I would never pick a fight over it. Don't like it? Good for you. Just like religion though, there are some rational people who don't shove their beliefs down others' throats.

Either way this is a spot on comparison, OP. Unlike religions though, most people see forks just as they are; cash grabs and free coins. The original is still the best, and its value attests to that.

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December 21, 2017, 06:49:45 AM
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it is all about the moneyz.

bitcoin being open source and the technology being out there, makes it simple for literary anyone to create their own version of it. sometimes that "anyone" is a proper developer who wants to create a real project like Charlie Lee of Litecoin (no matter how successful or not his project is), and sometimes it is lazy people trying to make some quick money the easy way.
terms "premine" and "ICO" were created because of that.

There is a FOMO brewing...
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December 21, 2017, 07:04:56 AM
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At one stage in history you only had a few different main Churches. Over time, people saw a opportunity to make some money and they broke away from the main churches to create their own church.

They found some small technical problem with the main church and they broke away to create their own church that solve that problem for them. <so they say, but some people only did that to make some money from people who believed what they believed in and who followed them>

This is happening with Bitcoin now. People find something that would garner some support and then they splinter off to create their own little niche group. <Examples : Bitcoin Cash / Bitcoin Gold >

They still keep the Bitcoin word in their name, because it gives them legitimacy to be affiliated with the Mother of all coins.  

This creates opportunities for developers to be part of Bitcoin, even if it is not linked to the Mother coin. <We call them the WannabeCoins >

So if you cannot be part of the Mother coin, then you create your own LeechCoin and call it something with the word Bitcoin in it.  Roll Eyes


Churches are also based on purely imaginary beliefs and hope, not any rational analysis. This is exactly like Bitcoin - it is all hopes and dreams with absolutely no solid footing at all. Bitcoin followers are just like the religiously devoted - anyone not cheering for Bitcoin are purely haters or "don't understand it". It will ultimately fail.

Let's not use this thread to bash people's believes and their religion. We are comparing how greedy people are using technicallities to splinter off to get some limelight and exposure and to make some money, like it is being done with Churches.

If you want to discuss your religion or faith issues, take it to another forum or platform. This is a Bitcoin discussion only.

I just picked up on the familiar human behaviour between what is happening in churches and also what is happening in Bitcoin. <Most of this is driven by Greed> 

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December 21, 2017, 07:06:29 AM
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I just picked up on the familiar human behaviour between what is happening in churches and also what is happening in Bitcoin. <Most of this is driven by Greed> 

...exactly the same as I did. What is your logical argument to defend that it is OK when you do it, but not when I do it?
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December 21, 2017, 07:11:43 AM
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At one stage in history you only had a few different main Churches. Over time, people saw a opportunity to make some money and they broke away from the main churches to create their own church.

They found some small technical problem with the main church and they broke away to create their own church that solve that problem for them. <so they say, but some people only did that to make some money from people who believed what they believed in and who followed them>

This is happening with Bitcoin now. People find something that would garner some support and then they splinter off to create their own little niche group. <Examples : Bitcoin Cash / Bitcoin Gold >

They still keep the Bitcoin word in their name, because it gives them legitimacy to be affiliated with the Mother of all coins.  

This creates opportunities for developers to be part of Bitcoin, even if it is not linked to the Mother coin. <We call them the WannabeCoins >

So if you cannot be part of the Mother coin, then you create your own LeechCoin and call it something with the word Bitcoin in it.  Roll Eyes

Bitcoin is not like the Churches but the people within those Churches have similarity to the people behind bitcoin. Since bitcoin has no center and there is nothing who control or regulate it from the inside the core developers in some way have different ideas, opinions and motives and that is why many forks are happening. But let us hope that amidst these forking and separation from bitcoin, bitcoin may stand still.

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December 21, 2017, 10:10:58 AM
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I just picked up on the familiar human behaviour between what is happening in churches and also what is happening in Bitcoin. <Most of this is driven by Greed>  

...exactly the same as I did. What is your logical argument to defend that it is OK when you do it, but not when I do it?

The difference is, I am not trying to demean or attack the faith or the believe of these people. The human element of greed has infiltrated some churches and the greedy people are exploiting small differences to make money. <It is not about the faith, but rather the money potential behind it>

They create a whole new church to create a business to earn a income from the people who follow them.

I am not here to bash their believe or their faith. <Let them believe what they want> What I am saying is, not to use technical differences to create your own niche group, in the hope that you can get enough supporters to feed your greed for more money.

Roger Ver did this when he saw the potential to grab a few Bitcoin supporters when Bitcoin XT was labelled as a Alt coin on this forum. The forum moderators moved those threads to the Alt coin section and some people called it censorship.

He immediately saw a opportunity and he created his own forum for those splinter groups, who supposedly believe in non-censorship. Then he helped to create Bitcoin Cash, because Bitcoin is supposedly not the real Bitcoin. < The real Bitcoin according to him can only scale with Block size increases >

I hope you can see the difference. ^smile^    

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December 21, 2017, 11:59:03 AM
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I just picked up on the familiar human behaviour between what is happening in churches and also what is happening in Bitcoin. <Most of this is driven by Greed> 
...exactly the same as I did.
No.  The OP's post was phrased like an observation, using anecdotal evidence, while your post was phrased like a (rather rude and off-topic) opinion.
This is happening with Bitcoin now. People find something that would garner some support and then they splinter off to create their own little niche group.
I think that the motives deserve questioning here.  In the case of all forks proposed (apart from Bitcoin Cash), there has been a very significant premine and other shady tactics intended for the developers to gain huge amounts of money.

I wouldn't say that they're splintering off to form their own niche group so much as splintering off to see if they can gather speculators to hop on to their trend (and typically give them money when the developers have a hefty stake).
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December 22, 2017, 07:32:22 AM
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I just picked up on the familiar human behaviour between what is happening in churches and also what is happening in Bitcoin. <Most of this is driven by Greed> 
...exactly the same as I did.
No.  The OP's post was phrased like an observation, using anecdotal evidence, while your post was phrased like a (rather rude and off-topic) opinion.
This is happening with Bitcoin now. People find something that would garner some support and then they splinter off to create their own little niche group.
I think that the motives deserve questioning here.  In the case of all forks proposed (apart from Bitcoin Cash), there has been a very significant premine and other shady tactics intended for the developers to gain huge amounts of money.

I wouldn't say that they're splintering off to form their own niche group so much as splintering off to see if they can gather speculators to hop on to their trend (and typically give them money when the developers have a hefty stake).

Apart from the pre-mine, they still get some free coins for all the bitcoins they hoarded at the time of the fork. By doing this, they recreate the scenario where people came in as early adopters of the technology. <The difference being that they paid nothing for those free fork coins, where the early adopters risked their own money to gamble on this technology>

Every fork creates a new Gold Rush and the Bitcoin hoarders gets free land claims.

All this is based on greed and have very little to do with the actual problems that they have with Bitcoin. <BTC> 

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December 22, 2017, 06:10:03 PM
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I wouldn't be suprised if this is all a Soros funded 'confuse-the-newbie' campaign!  Sad
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December 22, 2017, 06:35:09 PM
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Hello guys, you have made an excellent observation on bitcoin. I think most of the people will like your post.
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December 22, 2017, 06:45:02 PM
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The truth is that a godfather remains a Godfather no matter what the situation may. It is is bitcoin or nothing more and every other Bitcoin still remain under it.All cryptocurrency are under Bitcoin.I call it the father of all cryptocurrency.
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