The crowdsale is ended but still no sign of life from the team except the Ghost Admin on telegram.
Below you can read the whole conservation (except the message where i gave my wallet address) between Ghost Admin and me.....
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Casper SMS303, [05.04.18 00:36]
Why did you block me from the group?
Casper SMS303, [05.04.18 00:36]
why do you need proof of my token purchases?
Casper SMS303, [05.04.18 00:38]
https://wavesdesk.com/account/3P5M6JHqrdZNfK7n6wdurm2BtcUyVKWukSnCasper SMS303, [05.04.18 00:38]
10 dec. 2017 875k units... these units are dumped in march
Casper SMS303, [05.04.18 00:40]
trade history:
https://wavesdesk.com/account/3P5M6JHqrdZNfK7n6wdurm2BtcUyVKWukSnCasper SMS303, [05.04.18 00:41]
mail send to
contact@coinhealth.io... mail were bounced
Casper SMS303, [05.04.18 00:42]
twitter relocated to:
https://twitter.com/michaeljryan13Casper SMS303, [05.04.18 00:42]
so what do i wrong?
Ghost Admin, [05.04.18 00:45]
You are making false staements. You are highlighting an address that isnt CH the company and claiming the company dumped 800k tokens , completely false I asked to verify your Waves wallet address to verify your purchases have come from CH.
Casper SMS303, [05.04.18 00:46]
where did the 875k units from? they came from coinhealth to the address which dumped them.
Ghost Admin, [05.04.18 00:47]
The twitter is the CEO's old one try coinhealth1 on twitter.
Contact@coinhealth.io may have bounced. It became a spam box for all the scum in the industry to send their crap. So we closed it.
Ghost Admin, [05.04.18 00:47]
Show me this transaction
Ghost Admin, [05.04.18 00:49]
Also at one time all tokens came from CH what members do with them is up to them. The team is on contract and cant sell.
Casper SMS303, [05.04.18 00:50]
i asked for answers and did not acuse anyone...
Ghost Admin, [05.04.18 00:52]
You made accusations that a team member dumped 800k tokens , completely false.
Casper SMS303, [05.04.18 00:52]
if the twitter and email address does not work then it makes sense that I ask questions about this?
Ghost Admin, [05.04.18 00:53]
You accused Abrego of selling tokens which he can because hes not on contract hes a bounty manager.
Ghost Admin, [05.04.18 00:54]
You stated there is no social sites , incorrect we have twitter, fb, insta, reddit, tumbler, bitcointalk. and about 5 others
Casper SMS303, [05.04.18 00:54]
It was very coincidental that Arbegro was mentioned on twitter and the day after suddenly offered 2000 units for sale.
Ghost Admin, [05.04.18 00:54]
You cant market on any of them or google adwords because of new regulation
Casper SMS303, [05.04.18 00:54]
https://wavesdesk.com/tx/8BiS55kasUrHn7F3oXJSPQXbS5oZb6jvQcpv3mWxVMWLCasper SMS303, [05.04.18 00:55]
25% of token ....
Ghost Admin, [05.04.18 00:55]
Listen we all know the market sucks, but being a hysterical consumer isnt the way to handle it.
Ghost Admin, [05.04.18 00:56]
Abrego is able to do what he wants with his tokens he isnt on a contract
Ghost Admin, [05.04.18 00:57]
One of our largest token holders has 25 million and hasnt sold a token.
Ghost Admin, [05.04.18 00:57]
The ceo hasnt sold a token.
Ghost Admin, [05.04.18 00:57]
and the CEO isnt the largest token holder.
Casper SMS303, [05.04.18 00:58]
the TX don't lie.... the transaction says: 25% ....
where did they come from? not from me
Ghost Admin, [05.04.18 01:01]
Wow you have no understanding of this do you. The tokens at one time came from CH . In the TX does it say how they were afforded. No it doesnt thats what you dont know.
Casper SMS303, [05.04.18 01:01]
what has changed with the regulation? why did CH choose this design for the ico? why do I see little progress in marketing and so on? can you imagine why I have these questions? No, that is not because the market is against it ... no because I have the impression that an attempt was made to pick up more by means of a detour because a wrong ico structure was
Ghost Admin, [05.04.18 01:02]
once again unfounded accusations
Ghost Admin, [05.04.18 01:02]
you cant market in social media anymore for one , google adwords doesnt allow it either.
Ghost Admin, [05.04.18 01:03]
maybe if you understood market econ , you might understand that 90% of all tokens are down over 75%. Not just CH
Casper SMS303, [05.04.18 01:03]
is the ico listed on coinschedule.com or other ico sites?
Ghost Admin, [05.04.18 01:04]
yeah about 40, coinschedule we no longer use. But were on there for 2 months, they have gotten far too expensive.
Casper SMS303, [05.04.18 01:05]
it is a pity that you are attacking me now and do not enter into content questions.
Casper SMS303, [05.04.18 01:06]
okay .... what are the current developments and what can we expect in the short term?
Ghost Admin, [05.04.18 01:07]
Im not attacking you , but its clear you dont know what your talking about. Why dont you point out that the company has bought back 100's of thousands of token peopke dumped?
Ghost Admin, [05.04.18 01:08]
The beta was about ro be released 3 weeks ago but we had a glitch with two opperating systems we are now fixing.
Ghost Admin, [05.04.18 01:08]
lol obviously you wont point that out
Casper SMS303, [05.04.18 01:09]
if I do not understand it all ... explain it to me in a very simple way instead of the way you respond to it
Ghost Admin, [05.04.18 01:10]
Also until you verify you actually hold 30k tokens like you said by posting you address. Im a little over your accusations. And answering any of your questions.
Casper SMS303, [05.04.18 01:11]
see me as first time costumer and convince me to buy tokens
Ghost Admin, [05.04.18 01:12]
Very simply put , what backs CH? BTC,LTC,ETH, Waves where are they? over 75% down . Its a massive flow pool.
Casper SMS303, [05.04.18 01:13]
if everything is 75% less than it is in fiat seen the best to step in. many coins for little
Casper SMS303, [05.04.18 01:13]
that is no reason for me that the ico remains behind
Ghost Admin, [05.04.18 01:19]
Ill tell you what since this is a long conversation lets schedule a time to speak. Ill call you through here. When would be good for you?
Ghost Admin, [05.04.18 01:20]
Because you dont understand economics that why.
Casper SMS303, [05.04.18 01:22]
it is a shame that it is all up to me or the market that is down .... I use google translate because I am not English speaking so calling does not make sense.
Casper SMS303, [05.04.18 01:23]
my conclusion is that the 875k units have completely annihilated the ico! if they are earned with something why are they not released until the end of the ico?
Casper SMS303, [05.04.18 01:27]
this conversation did not lead to anything except that we both now think what a jerk is that guest is too bad about the way in which cryptoland reacts to each other. If someone is not at the same level, then economic knowledge is lacking. If there is something different, it is up to the market. if critical questions are asked, you first have to defend yourself as questioner or prove that you have tokens in your possession.
Ghost Admin, [05.04.18 01:28]
What language do you speak? I speak a few.
Casper SMS303, [05.04.18 01:28]
Dutch
Ghost Admin, [05.04.18 01:29]
Okay thats not one I speak.
Ghost Admin, [05.04.18 01:30]
Ill type out the full scenario for you and explanation but its going to take time.
Casper SMS303, [05.04.18 01:30]
ok no problem
Casper SMS303, [13.04.18 15:04]
and.... do you have it?
Casper SMS303, [14.04.18 17:49]
Still waiting for the full scenario....
Casper SMS303, [14.04.18 17:52]
If CH have bought back lot of tokens they can buy mine's too ... i dont have faith in this project anymore...
Ghost Admin, [14.04.18 17:59]
Place your tokens for sale, you are in full control of your tokens. We are not at your beckoned call as we have answered your questions. That is why our model is the way it is. At no point in time were you ever locked in and had no way out. You dont want the tokens anymore, sell them.
Casper SMS303, [14.04.18 18:00]
I gave you my adrress to prove i have almost 30k ... but i am still waiting for the full scenario as you promised
Ghost Admin, [14.04.18 20:37]
Let me ask you , you said you used 250 waves. Waves is sub 4 dollars usd. So should we as an ICO say we lost faith in the Waves token because when people invested in it was worth 12-15 dollars a token. No we cant, we have to accept that the tokens that were used to pay for CH were worth far more when invested. Just like CH is down all tokenage used to buy CH is dowb meaning the ICO is at the same loss as the purchaser reciprocally.
Casper SMS303, [16.04.18 22:07]
I messaged to the coinhealth twitter account yesterday and still waiting for an answer....
Casper SMS303, [16.04.18 22:07]
i also replied in the Bitcointalk topic and guess what.... NO RESPONSE!
Casper SMS303, [16.04.18 22:08]
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2629209.msg34870916#msg34870916Ghost Admin, [16.04.18 22:13]
I just checked the twitter , please show me what Coinhealth account you messaged. We do not have a message from you.
Ghost Admin, [16.04.18 22:13]
our twitter is @coinhealth1
Casper SMS303, [16.04.18 22:14]
More and more I get the impression that funds have been raised, the enthusiasm for the crowdsal disappointment and since then the project has stopped. The elaboration of reactions on twitter and on bitcointalk feeds this feeling more and more. Do you understand why I have received antipathy against the whole project? All that nonsense that I am not an economist and therefore do not understand it can put you in your place where the sun will never shine. You do not treat investors like that.
Casper SMS303, [16.04.18 22:16]
i used that twitter address...
Casper SMS303, [16.04.18 22:16]
all replies can be posted in the bitcointalk topic...
Casper SMS303, [16.04.18 22:16]
make it transaprant
Ghost Admin, [16.04.18 22:17]
You make constant accusations that arent true. We as a team do not have to take that type of abuse. What you do not understand and which we have tried to explain. Is that you dont spend funds when they are at 1/4 value at the same rate you would when at full value. You may call the economics of how a project can be ran and afforded crap but its the truth.
Ghost Admin, [16.04.18 22:28]
The value of any crypto participants used to buy CH is at a 75% loss in current markets. Its very simple $1000 in waves 2 months ago is $250 in waves now. The project then makes cut backs and postpones things until markets are more favorable to continue at budget.
Ghost Admin, [16.04.18 22:29]
Without doing this the project runs the risk of insolvency because of the market downturn. Does that make sense?
Casper SMS303, [20.04.18 18:25]
answer here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=post;topic=2629209.0;num_replies=17Casper SMS303, [20.04.18 18:32]
be honest... THE TEAM MESSED UP THE ICO/CROWDSALE and tried to jump into the hype.... now the results are dissapointed the project seems to be on hold
Casper SMS303, [20.04.18 18:32]
[In reply to Ghost Admin]
i passed this station 2weeks ago.... i paid with with waves and if my tokens bought back it will be for the same amount of waves... so there is no lost... does make that any sense?
Ghost Admin, [20.04.18 18:55]
I have tried to explain this repeatedly.When you purchased with waves , what was the value of each wave? Waves is down from 15 dollars to 5. So the crypto you paid with is at a loss.
Ghost Admin, [20.04.18 18:59]
We didnt mess anything up , we slowed things down and are still ahead of schedule. Stop making accusation about the project that you dont have any factual information about. Currently today Dr. Johny Nobles is at the IBM blockchain conference speaking with reps about our project. We were in silicon valley 3 months ago doing the same. Were looking to hire 2 more developers as we speak to bring all dev together in the beta. I have been very nice about trying to explain all that is going on. I have also tried to help you understand that market economics play a huge part in a project. I wont continue to try to explain due to constant accusations.
Ghost Admin, [20.04.18 19:00]
The waves you used to purchase are value at 1/3 of when you purchased. Thats a loss.
Ghost Admin, [20.04.18 19:00]
For us.
Ghost Admin, [20.04.18 19:03]
This is a 5 year project and you are complaining in the first couple months. It took BTC 8 years to have substantial value.
Ghost Admin, [20.04.18 19:03]
Im sorry if you thought this was a get rich quick ICO, It was never advertised as that.
Ghost Admin, [20.04.18 19:04]
And its healthcare which takes ample time.
Casper SMS303, [24.04.18 18:48]
The crowdsale is ended and the big sell order of 10mln tokens are still there at the DEX. Why is nobody from the team reacting or posting updates in the Bitcointalk topic? Yeah ... you slowed things (everything) down and still try to gain more funds...