Spain Privatizes The Sun: Issues Heavy Penalties For Collecting Sunlight

[herzmeister]

Spain Privatizes The Sun: Issues Heavy Penalties For Collecting Sunlight
 
SPAIN – If you get caught collecting photons of sunlight for your own use you can drop a fine not exceeding 30 million. 
 

 
So if you were thinking that the best option was just to have some solar panels that were down 80% in cost and have the opportunity to disconnect from the mains and your bill scam, you can forget about it. 
 
With the terror of “destabilized” power consumption, sometime in 2010 someone has decided to privatize the sun …. yes you read that right: Spain, unlike the rest of Europe, levies a toll on electricity generated and injected to the line. 
 
Committing the sacrilege of being energy independent can be very expensive, and the sun now is only for the privileged few and the power companies. The ”Spanish Photovoltaic Union (UNEF ), which brings together some 300 companies representing 85% of the industry, ensures that these changes would be more expensive than resorting to conventional supply. 

---from https://earthfirstnews.wordpress.com/2013/07/24/spain-privatizes-the-sun-issues-heavy-penalties-for-collecting-sunlight/

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[Lethn]

...... >_<

[Charm Quark]

I hope they ran it past her first

[Raoul Duke]

And people say the portuguese gubermint is bad... lol

WTF, what's next, oxigen?

[fghj]

Sun belonged to no one, now it "belongs" to state, I think that when state takes something that was not previously owned by state it's called nationalization. It would be privatization if they sold it to some private company.

[herzmeister]

"Privatization" today rather means the state puts services they formerly managed into the hands of privileged monopolies, without lowering taxes... yup, it's practically fascism.

[joris]

Thread is FUD.

...levies a toll on electricity generated and injected to the line.

As a producer you just have to pay to use (and fuck up) the national power grid, nothing to do with collecting sunlight 'an sich' and for your own use.

[Raoul Duke]

Thread is FUD.

...levies a toll on electricity generated and injected to the line.

As a producer you just have to pay to use (and fuck up) the national power grid, nothing to do with collecting sunlight 'an sich' and for your own use.

And then they passsed a law which forbids you from collecting sunlight without connecting it to the grid...

[joris]

  You really understand political strategies.

Thread is FUD.

...levies a toll on electricity generated and injected to the line.

As a producer you just have to pay to use (and fuck up) the national power grid, nothing to do with collecting sunlight 'an sich' and for your own use.

And then they passsed a law which forbids you from collecting sunlight without connecting it to the grid...

[mmeijeri]

Does anyone have a reference to this alleged fine for private use? What I've heard is that the Spanish government has slashed subsidies for ("feed-in tariffs") for solar energy. They may also have imposed fines, but I haven't found any references for that. In any event, privatisation is not the correct word for imposing fines.

[herzmeister]

original source comes from here: http://elpais.cr/frontend/noticia_detalle/6/83700

El País is the largest news publication in the Spanish speaking world afaik

[mmeijeri]

That's the Costa Rican El Pais, I don't know if it's related to the Spanish one.

[liberty90]

Nationalize, rather.
This has nothing to do with legitimate homesteading principle.

[Elwar]

There was once a "daylight tax" in Britain:

A 'window tax' was first introduced in 1696. It was seen by some as a tax on light and air; but despite its unpopularity, it was not abolished until 1851. Because houses with more than a certain number of windows were liable to be taxed, house owners often, reluctantly, blocked up windows, and there was a tendency to include fewer windows when new houses were built.

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/pathways/citizenship/rise_parliament/docs/window_tax.htm


I know several local taxes include a rain tax.

[Mike Christ]

And the insanity continues.

[juca]

just 3 words:
OMG