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December 22, 2017, 09:50:40 PM
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Too many old men and old ladies into BTC now.  This was never about making money for fonestar and he has been in Bitcoin since early 2012.

Some of you H0DLers think you are buying an annuity or a pension plan.  That's not how tekk works.  If you don't innovate you stagnate and Core has shown me that not only do they have no interest in innovation... they are more into self-strangulation.  BTC has historical advantage of being the first crypto-currency and the longest un-forked chain.  That's an interesting thing but also technically useless.  I have lots of old radios, cell phones and computers that are interesting too.  They are not stores-of-value either.

I was neutral for a long time... kept thinking that BTC would get its kaka together.  Gave them lots of chances, but no more... I'm all in for "the Flippening" to BCH.  I think BCH preserves the original crypto-anarchist spirit, the true vision of Satoshi Nakamoto's global Peer to Peer Electronic Cash System.

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December 22, 2017, 09:52:37 PM
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well the funny thing is i have both of them in the same value, i dont care i will take my profit either from both cryptocurrencys. i just laugh my ass of such subjective threads.


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December 22, 2017, 09:59:07 PM
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Too many old men and old ladies into BTC now.  This was never about making money for fonestar and he has been in Bitcoin since early 2012.

Some of you H0DLers think you are buying an annuity or a pension plan.  That's not how tekk works.  If you don't innovate you stagnate and Core has shown me that not only do they have no interest in innovation... they are more into self-strangulation.  BTC has historical advantage of being the first crypto-currency and the longest un-forked chain.  That's an interesting thing but also technically useless.  I have lots of old radios, cell phones and computers that are interesting too.  They are not stores-of-value either.

I was neutral for a long time... kept thinking that BTC would get its kaka together.  Gave them lots of chances, but no more... I'm all in for "the Flippening" to BCH.  I think BCH preserves the original crypto-anarchist spirit, the true vision of Satoshi Nakamoto's global Peer to Peer Electronic Cash System.

The Bitcoin is Dead!  Long Live Bitcoin!


(oh yeah... one more thing Core Dev... Bitcoin is for "poor people")

It does not matter who holds bitcoin for the direction of it, it matters how it is used. I guess you could argue that too many holders don't use it for transactions and that's why such high fees have become standard. Block sizes will increase soon which should greatly improve things (not a moment too soon) and then in some time after LN can come in which could really turn things around for bitcoin.

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December 23, 2017, 05:50:12 AM
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Exactly how does BCH conserve the crypto anarchist spirit? People use it for profits all the same. It's accepted in even less places, and there are very few transactions compared to Bitcoin. One could argue that that means more people are aggressively HODLing.

In fact, go visit r/btc, which is pro Bitcoin Cash. All you'll see is them shit talking Bitcoin, the Bitcoin community, or HODLing. Bitcoin may have lost the crypto anarchy spirit, but Bitcoin Cash isn't at all better.

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December 23, 2017, 06:04:26 AM
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Here are the guys in charge of the crypto-anarchy spirit now. I think they have most of the spirit locked in a vault on Wall Street.








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December 23, 2017, 06:40:30 AM
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So Bitcoin has to fast track and rush the Lightning Network <and possibly push code with security exploits into the code> because you want it to scale faster? This is not a $10 000 Point of sale software experiment, but rather a multi Billion dollar experiment.

The Core Team has a huge responsibility to provide the best and most secure code for this experiment, because they are working with someone elses money.

The current high fees is a smoke screen that are being fabricated by a collective action from merchants that does not want to implement SegWit and also cowards that are hiding behind anonymity, that are spamming the network. <They are being supported by malicious miners that are manipulating the network> These miners will shift their hashing power to BCash and leave BTC to become congested and then when the miners fees increase, they jump back in to feast on the high fees.

Some Blocks contain $100 000 more in miners fees, so they are loving it.

See the bigger picture, before you start blaming Core Developers for everything. They provided the solution <SegWit> and now merchants are sabotaging that solution.

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December 23, 2017, 09:08:36 AM
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i don’t care with price when use crypto my plan is buy cheap altcoin and save it for future.

invest in bitcoin is so risky
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December 23, 2017, 09:23:30 AM
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You have absolutely zero idea what you are talking about, many Core devs are old-school cypherpunks who were into cryptography and crypto-anarchy way before it was cool and it is thanks to them Bitcoin went from pennies to thousands of dollars - they keep the network secure and decentralized by developing the best software we can get atm. Bcash on the other hand is just a centralized Chinese shitcoin, that was created for miners profit and to attack Bitcoin. So don't be surprised if one day your lightweight Bcash wallet will kindly ask you to upload your ID and pay a $10 monthly subsciption fee - all the nodes by that time will be giant datacenters located in China.

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December 23, 2017, 09:33:50 AM
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Exactly how does BCH conserve the crypto anarchist spirit? People use it for profits all the same. It's accepted in even less places, and there are very few transactions compared to Bitcoin. One could argue that that means more people are aggressively HODLing.

In fact, go visit r/btc, which is pro Bitcoin Cash. All you'll see is them shit talking Bitcoin, the Bitcoin community, or HODLing. Bitcoin may have lost the crypto anarchy spirit, but Bitcoin Cash isn't at all better.

Exactly! I'm all for the preservation of crypto-anarchy (not that it would welcome any effort to preserve it) and still think guys like Amir Taaki do a lot to keep crypto and Bitcoin firmly on that long-term vision. But if this guy who claims to have been in Bitcoin for so many years thinks that Bitcoin Cash has even a shade of the "original" principles, then I must have really been missing the point .

Bitcoin Cash proponents have long been saying Bitcoin core held back the price (Roger Ver said Bitcoin should have been 10k if core were more amenable, then of course Bitcoin got to that stage). Look at the accusations of insider trading re Coinbase, Ver, etc. There is no crypto with more suits, ties and backroom meetings than Bitcoin Cash. If those are crypto anarchists, then I need a re-education.

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