UNITED BITCOIN

[simongoat]

I just missed the grace period because I couldn't work out how to send from a specific address with a nano ledger. In the end I found you could use electrum but then I got my segwit and legacy addresses muddled up and couldn't send to verify and claim. I suppose its too late now? Can grace to extended in exceptional circumstances? A shame because it looks like this is a really good project.

Normally it's not, we don't know what they are doing but (see above) it would be interesting to see what happens if we transfer coins with my tool, you can email me if you want to try (but from a normal or multisig address before block 498777, not a segwit one)

sorry not sure what you mean. You can get the ubtc with your tool and I should email you?

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[jasonb1959]

Just managed to claim UBTC with https://www.excrypts.org/ and sold it on Exx.com after 1 month struggle with their wallet.

[Michail1]

I just missed the grace period because I couldn't work out how to send from a specific address with a nano ledger. In the end I found you could use electrum but then I got my segwit and legacy addresses muddled up and couldn't send to verify and claim. I suppose its too late now? Can grace to extended in exceptional circumstances? A shame because it looks like this is a really good project.

It wouldn't matter anyway.

I doubt you would have seen any coins anyway.  Remember, they screwed everyone prior to the Phase 2 grace period distribution by not giving them the coins they should have received.  And, that was well over a month ago.  So, to think they would give out to those in 'grace period' seems like false hope anyway.

[Ayms]

I just missed the grace period because I couldn't work out how to send from a specific address with a nano ledger. In the end I found you could use electrum but then I got my segwit and legacy addresses muddled up and couldn't send to verify and claim. I suppose its too late now? Can grace to extended in exceptional circumstances? A shame because it looks like this is a really good project.

Normally it's not, we don't know what they are doing but (see above) it would be interesting to see what happens if we transfer coins with my tool, you can email me if you want to try (but from a normal or multisig address before block 498777, not a segwit one)

sorry not sure what you mean. You can get the ubtc with your tool and I should email you?

Probably, or try alone if you prefer, email me if pb

Just managed to claim UBTC with https://www.excrypts.org/ and sold it on Exx.com after 1 month struggle with their wallet.

I doubt you would have seen any coins anyway.  Remember, they screwed everyone prior to the Phase 2 grace period distribution by not giving them the coins they should have received.  And, that was well over a month ago.  So, to think they would give out to those in 'grace period' seems like false hope anyway.

Again, they can't reinvent everything and decide for the coins transfer, about the strange things they do to move coins, I don't know for now, but a normal transaction MUST work (I would certainly not use something like excrypts.org but do it if you like)

I don't really care about my tool here, it works and has been tested for UBTC (despite all their efforts to hide things), cf https://github.com/Ayms/bitcoin-transactions/blob/master/ubtc.js

More interesting is to understand what they are doing globally, and allow people to transfer coins without them being involved, asking to register, transfer coins prior to some hypothetical "distribution" or whatever

[simongoat]

Just managed to claim UBTC with https://www.excrypts.org/ and sold it on Exx.com after 1 month struggle with their wallet.

Thanks for sharing. that wallet looks like great. is it easy to use and is it safe?

[GuiDonK]

BTC has just 7 transactions per second. Bitcoin United can cruise beyond 10,000 transactions per second without breaking a sweat.

[GayOfThrones]

The crypto vocabulary now has a new word: SHITFORKING.
My view is that nobody should try to get shitforked coins. If the shitforkcoins devs are so smart to provide people a very easy way to get their coins, that be it. Otherwise, niet!

[European Central Bank]

BTC has just 7 transactions per second. Bitcoin United can cruise beyond 10,000 transactions per second without breaking a sweat.

with one block every 8 hours on occasion? wow. that's real impressive.

this is truly a magical fork. there are no users. the leadership is non existent. it didn't actually fork in a known manner.

united bitcoin truly is sorcery at the highest level.

[jasonb1959]

Like I said, done it with https://www.excrypts.org/

https://imgur.com/I5S69G3

[Ayms]

Like I said, done it with https://www.excrypts.org/

https://imgur.com/I5S69G3

Please prove it and provide the related address(es)

united bitcoin truly is sorcery at the highest level

Somewhere yes, @michail1 was right too, there is indeed a God mode, and the magic was (among others) to change the verification steps

They used it between the 11th and 14th of december to apparently transfer all the coins to themselves, except maybe some but this just means that you can't claim anything without them, because there is nothing left

All of this is in the code and even commented (if (godmode) bla bla)

Currently writing a gist about what they did and how, I think I am close now, again it would help if I could get the hex output of one of their transactions (if people here can inquire/relay somewhere else maybe...)

[simongoat]

Like I said, done it with https://www.excrypts.org/

https://imgur.com/I5S69G3

It looks like a bit of a dodgy wallet to me. Has anyone else used it?

[Ayms]

Like I said, done it with https://www.excrypts.org/

https://imgur.com/I5S69G3

It looks like a bit of a dodgy wallet to me. Has anyone else used it?

Stop here, @jasonb1959 is a liar, there is nothing you can do to claim UBTC with any wallet or tool, see my message above

[Ayms]

Somewhere yes, @michail1 was right too, there is indeed a God mode, and the magic was (among others) to change the verification steps

They used it between the 11th and 14th of december to apparently transfer all the coins to themselves, except maybe some but this just means that you can't claim anything without them, because there is nothing left

All of this is in the code and even commented (if (godmode) bla bla)

Currently writing a gist about what they did and how, I think I am close now, again it would help if I could get the hex output of one of their transactions (if people here can inquire/relay somewhere else maybe...)

Please see https://gist.github.com/Ayms/86309b48084087a82634615d209f8b26 "United Bitcoin and the God mode or The robbery of the century"

To summarize the UB team used a God mode during 3 days after the fork to transfer everything (except maybe phase 1 addresses fulfilling their requirements that nobody understood) to their miner using the key of their generator, and now they should refund the addresses that did fulfill their phase 2 requirements

[jasonb1959]

Why would you call me a lier? I said what I did, sold them and that was that. I don't care about their shitty coin, fork or who's behind it.

https://imgur.com/aJANFNE
https://imgur.com/iWRUwyZ

[Ayms]

Then please provide in clear the addresses and transactions involved (email/PM me if you prefer), you are the only known case up to now as far as I know to have succeeded claiming UBTCs

[Michail1]

Why would you call me a lier? I said what I did, sold them and that was that. I don't care about their shitty coin, fork or who's behind it.

https://imgur.com/aJANFNE
https://imgur.com/iWRUwyZ

Thank for your post; however, it doesn't prove that
Hell, it doesn't even prove that you used it to move the UB coins.

Then please provide in clear the addresses and transactions involved (email/PM me if you prefer), you are the only known case up to now as far as I know to have succeeded claiming UBTCs

Took two minutes to find it....
Block:  https://www.ub.com/explorer/block?block=504531
TX: 31e1f9a103f4521746f7cb642fb3fd0037c580700305d9b3bd80065949db3a28
https://www.ub.com/explorer/tx?txid=31e1f9a103f4521746f7cb642fb3fd0037c580700305d9b3bd80065949db3a28

This is no way proves the wallet jason1959 is claiming was used, let alone being legit.
I call bullshit on it at this point, because those coins were NOT claimed coins.  They can be tracked back to many transactions over time and honestly appear to be a part of a spam or mixer network on the bitcoin chain.

Would love to see screen shots/info on the excrypts.org wallet.

[Ayms]

Yes, 2mn that @jason1959 could have spared us, following the path from the first input:

BTC

1MgnrVqyoqBG2hHuTWcEzegaTPDuwu7F6d --> 14MrWYRgM6c62tg9tPoaJx84CxqKcwRTGb (before fork 06/12/17) (0.99383184)

14MrWYRgM6c62tg9tPoaJx84CxqKcwRTGb -->   1K1kiDpaUk8jUD6R7TmdBMJrmqXyduw48G (after fork 20/12/2017, fulffiling phase 2 requirements, this address did not fulfill phase 1 ones)
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UBTC

14MrWYRgM6c62tg9tPoaJx84CxqKcwRTGb (0.99383184) --> miner 12/12/17

miner --> 3M7nXQmnMfxkQ5YVRudCWeByujKvUBsyAB 30/12/17 (28831.26) --> (after some hops with 1 addresses) --> 15wbvv14K4WR7aezjW6DRvsr2PyBaCjVeX (42354.7569842) 11/02/18

15wbvv14K4WR7aezjW6DRvsr2PyBaCjVeX --> 14MrWYRgM6c62tg9tPoaJx84CxqKcwRTGb (0.99383184 ) 11/02

14MrWYRgM6c62tg9tPoaJx84CxqKcwRTGb (0.99383184) --> 1KUZE9HFGGiMBeG3vwCGctGFQiUq1k3wpx 14/02/17 (1.99381589 ) --> 1GoXHoyU2BRhEatnRhpCeP1pGaZtqzX7Xi 15/02/17 (1)

@jasonb1959 example of "claim":

31e1f9a103f4521746f7cb642fb3fd0037c580700305d9b3bd80065949db3a28
2018-02-15 18:30:43.0
1GoXHoyU2BRhEatnRhpCeP1pGaZtqzX7Xi
(1 UBTC)
1GoXHoyU2BRhEatnRhpCeP1pGaZtqzX7Xi
(0.5 UBTC)
1Nqo34SGtuR598ysD7XYUR7raEPpLDeN7M
(0.00171 UBTC)
1GoXHoyU2BRhEatnRhpCeP1pGaZtqzX7Xi
(7 UBTC)
1GoXHoyU2BRhEatnRhpCeP1pGaZtqzX7Xi
(0.1 UBTC)
1GoXHoyU2BRhEatnRhpCeP1pGaZtqzX7Xi
(0.5 UBTC)

-->
     
1AkJw7qAGGD1MrHS7QYxKGw5JBWEN5Yqkj
- Unutilised 9.10167953

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So 15wbvv14K4WR7aezjW6DRvsr2PyBaCjVeX --> 14MrWYRgM6c62tg9tPoaJx84CxqKcwRTGb (0.99383184 ) 11/02 is maybe the first example of phase 2 claimed coins

@jasonb1959, your example might just show that you succeeded to transfer some coins that were already on the chain with the wallet, not a big deal and it has nothing to do with claiming coins, do you have something to do with address 14MrWYRgM6c62tg9tPoaJx84CxqKcwRTGb ?

[Travis726]

I just read about this fork.  Does anyone know the amount of premine? aka the "inactive" coins?

[Ayms]

I just read about this fork.  Does anyone know the amount of premine? aka the "inactive" coins?

See above, there is no premine, they just transferred everything to themselves (except maybe phase 1 addresses) and might now refund the addresses that did fulfill phase 2 requirements

[G14tz87]

We are adding our own candidate to join the other “Alt-Bitcoins” in the ongoing forking Diaspora. We call it Bitcoin United (BTC-U) aka (BTC.BTS). The purpose of Bitcoin United to provide a solution so far advanced that there would be no reason to adopt anything else – thus avoiding a permanent breakup. Bitcoin will remain united through the sheer force of excellence of our long-proven, freely available technology.