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December 24, 2017, 12:39:42 AM
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Will robots one day destroy us? It's a question that increasingly preoccupies many of our most brilliant scientists and tech entrepreneurs.

For developments in artificial intelligence (AI) — machines programmed to perform tasks that normally require human intelligence — are poised to reshape our workplace and leisure time dramatically.

This year, a leading Oxford academic, Professor Michael Wooldridge, warned MPs that AI could go 'rogue', that machines might become so complex that the engineers who create them will no longer understand them or be able to predict how they function.

Yes, it's a concern, but a 'historic' new development makes unpredictable decisions by AI machines the least of our worries. And it all started with a game of chess.


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December 24, 2017, 01:24:32 AM
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AI and robots will supersede us in pretty much every way and will do most of the work in the future. Biology just can't compete with technology on this front.

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December 24, 2017, 01:27:52 AM
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AI and robots are still controlled by the humans. I don't think it can supersede the human right now. Maybe in the future but not this time.
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December 24, 2017, 01:50:09 AM
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AI and robots are still controlled by the humans. I don't think it can supersede the human right now. Maybe in the future but not this time.

I don't mean it in the regard. I mean it in the sense that they will be many times faster and better so they will do the work. Also smarter but in a different kind of way. Like how computers are better at handling datasets than we are for example, but i agree it is in the future.

AGI and ASI will change everything though.

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December 24, 2017, 03:02:01 AM
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AI brain is still not as small as the human brain. The part of AI that wins at chess, is much larger than a similar part in the human brain.

The difference is the way the two brains are made and work. Even a tiny part of the human brain is made like a CPU, to do many jobs at once. If that tiny part were given only the job of teaching itself chess, and then winning games, it would be much faster and better than AI.

In addition, the human brain has a spiritual part. This part may not be able to be incorporated into AI, making AI forever a machine, and never alive.

So, we have AI, a complex machine that can do things much faster and better than people. However, that's the way it is in all kinds of things. If a human wants to dig a hole, he can do it much faster with a shovel than with his hands. And if it is a big hole, he can do it much faster with a backhoe.

AI is simply a focused, complex computing device. It can do the work better and faster just like a backhoe can dig a hole better and faster.

One major point is that if AI does harm or damage, the inventor and maker and liscensor of the AI should be the one punished, just like a backhoe that breaks down and harms people.

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December 24, 2017, 03:23:41 AM
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Some of the most brilliant scientists and engineers are very fearful that AI will end up being like Terminator/ Skynet. Elon Musk wants a panel created right now for the very purpose of regulating the problem which doesn't actually exist yet. This is counter to the normal route of regulating something only after it has become a problem. In his words, if you wait until that point it will be too late.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/03/elon-musk-billion-dollar-crusade-to-stop-ai-space-x

Stephen Hawking is pretty much of the doomsday armageddon mindset where it is an inevitability it will definitely happen.

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/stephen-hawking-artificial-intelligence-fears-ai-will-replace-humans-virus-life-a8034341.html

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December 24, 2017, 03:29:54 AM
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AI and robots are still controlled by the humans. I don't think it can supersede the human right now. Maybe in the future but not this time.

I don't mean it in the regard. I mean it in the sense that they will be many times faster and better so they will do the work. Also smarter but in a different kind of way. Like how computers are better at handling datasets than we are for example, but i agree it is in the future.

AGI and ASI will change everything though.

Ahhh were you referring to automation, like AI robots and technology replacing jobs previously done by humans? I work in a distribution center and see this problem becoming more frequent. I just pray I make it to retirement before it does. There have been discussions about how it could be a good thing. About how they could end up doing all jobs in the future, no hunger shortages, and universal mandatory living wages or conditions. But that sounds like socialism to me. I have no doubt it won't be some Utopian paradise where a robot feeds us grapes and fans us with palm leaves while our AI sex robot gets us off  Grin.

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December 24, 2017, 12:39:25 PM
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AI and robots are still controlled by the humans. I don't think it can supersede the human right now. Maybe in the future but not this time.

I don't mean it in the regard. I mean it in the sense that they will be many times faster and better so they will do the work. Also smarter but in a different kind of way. Like how computers are better at handling datasets than we are for example, but i agree it is in the future.

AGI and ASI will change everything though.

Ahhh were you referring to automation, like AI robots and technology replacing jobs previously done by humans? I work in a distribution center and see this problem becoming more frequent. I just pray I make it to retirement before it does. There have been discussions about how it could be a good thing. About how they could end up doing all jobs in the future, no hunger shortages, and universal mandatory living wages or conditions. But that sounds like socialism to me. I have no doubt it won't be some Utopian paradise where a robot feeds us grapes and fans us with palm leaves while our AI sex robot gets us off  Grin.

Yes, that's essentially where i was going

Well, there's no denying there will be a transition period, but there are solutions, not sure what they are exactly, but it is inevitable non the less.

I admit i have no idea what the world will look like when we reach AGI/ASI levels of AI though.

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How rude, I think humans are perfectly capable of destroying the planet, without letting some silly robotic artificial intelligence do it for us. It is much more likely that a nuclear war will make the planet uninhabitable. There are things like volcanic eruptions or asteroids which could also end the human race, before we develop this technology.

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December 24, 2017, 01:27:28 PM
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How rude, I think humans are perfectly capable of destroying the planet, without letting some silly robotic artificial intelligence do it for us. It is much more likely that a nuclear war will make the planet uninhabitable. There are things like volcanic eruptions or asteroids which could also end the human race, before we develop this technology.

Actually, humans don't have this ability. Combined humanity might have it, if there was enough population. But, consider all the wars. Humanity isn't combining. Humanity is always fighting among themselves. They are seeking different objectives. They will never reach the combined thinking and population that would give them enough strength to destroy the whole earth.

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No artificial intelligence can rule over the human race without human concern. An artificial brain has no consciousness, nor intuition. These functions are not programmable though obligatory to influence a situation.
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December 24, 2017, 08:00:32 PM
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if robots and computers become more intelligent than humans, we will be enslaved by "harmless machines, but machines whose interests do not involve us.

at a time in this century or the next century intelligence will escape from the shackles of biology .

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Some people think that CERN is opening portals to parallel universes and other dimensions. I saw a video that shows what is really happening.

The video shows that the quantum computer is being used to program the frequency of the CERN collider. The frequency was programmed, recently, to the frequency of the whole universe. The result was a pulse that, when translated into sound, sounded just like a human heart. I think it is a human heart.

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CERN is showing us the greatness of Jesus.

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if robots and computers become more intelligent than humans, we will be enslaved by "harmless machines, but machines whose interests do not involve us.

at a time in this century or the next century intelligence will escape from the shackles of biology .

Because of the touch of free will that people have - the only way to break out of cause and effect - no material or energy AI will be able to break into the soul of humanity. Humanity might be convinced otherwise in our minds, but not in our souls.

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On the contrary, we are the ones that allowed the robot its abilities, so perhaps the key is to integrate robotics and tech to our biological processes before they destroy us.
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On the contrary, we are the ones that allowed the robot its abilities, so perhaps the key is to integrate robotics and tech to our biological processes before they destroy us.

Note what you just said. You said, "we are the ones that allowed ... ." The key is not the AI. The key is us.

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The singularity is inevitable,  and only a matter of time. The industrial revolution was the period that sealed humanities fate, and was a pivotal turning point for mankind. However, most of us remain optimistic, and Great thinkers like Elon Musk, Michio Kaku, isaac asimov are fully aware of automations implications.
   The only thing left to do is to merge with the machine, and transcend our primitive biology, and reach the next stage in human evolution. If we do not, we will be enslaved by the very machines we've built.
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AI and robots are still controlled by the humans. I don't think it can supersede the human right now. Maybe in the future but not this time.

Completely perfectly agreed. Artificial intelligences and robots are being controlled bu human beings but It is pretty obvious that These kind of creatures are going to controll humanity in near future and This will bring mankind's end for sure.

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AI and robots are still controlled by the humans. I don't think it can supersede the human right now. Maybe in the future but not this time.

Completely perfectly agreed. Artificial intelligences and robots are being controlled bu human beings but It is pretty obvious that These kind of creatures are going to controll humanity in near future and This will bring mankind's end for sure.

Well the people who are concerned about ai are brilliant mind themselves and there probably is real cause for concern. Personally, i think humans still will be able to handle if ai becomes too intelligent and able to make their own decision. Human intelligence also gets pushed further

 
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