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July 28, 2013, 11:16:15 PM
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Hi all,

I`m probably "The newbie" around here but anyway, i have done some reading lately and decided to have my first post. Believe me or not, i heard BTC for the first time from my economics profesor, talking about 2008 financial crisis. That was few monts ago and I was shocked that something so big is going on without me knowing anything about it, regardless of being a graduate student who studies economics. But, heeey, don`t judge too hard on me cause most of the people i meet are still like "Whaaaat coin? or "Don`t you mean BitTorrent?"

Anyway, no more jiber jaber, here`s my ask:

I have a Desktop PC which i use only for nothing. It`s graphics card burned out long time ago, maybe by the time when it would have been wise to buy new one and start mining BTC but whatever. As i see it of today i can do the same but mine for LTC, right? Here is what i have, altought not really sure what it is actually Smiley

DualCore AMD Athlon 64 X2, 2000 MHz (10 x 200) 3800+

Asus M2N-MX, 1 Socket AM2, 2 PCI, 1 PCI-E x1, 1 PCI-E x16 with integrated video - nForce6100-430

2 GB RAM, some SATA hard drive and etc.

Im a little bit lazy to open and check for the power supply but i think its something like 450-500W Fortron. I am trying to figure what ATI GPU can i add while keeping the other stuff (maybe not the supply), for max Kh/s. For example, can i put some 7850 and start right away or it is not that simple. You know, im trying to spend some 200-300 bucks just to make some use of the PC. I am very much interested in any suggestions and ofcourse any donations as i see begging for money here is conventional enought  Grin

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July 29, 2013, 01:07:05 AM
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You should read these two articles:

http://bitcoinsbs.wordpress.com/2013/02/09/btc-mining-considerations/
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July 29, 2013, 01:24:56 AM
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People usually recommend 7950. I think your power supply is just about enough for it.
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July 29, 2013, 01:34:18 AM
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Hi all,

I`m probably "The newbie" around here but anyway, i have done some reading lately and decided to have my first post. Believe me or not, i heard BTC for the first time from my economics profesor, talking about 2008 financial crisis. That was few monts ago and I was shocked that something so big is going on without me knowing anything about it, regardless of being a graduate student who studies economics. But, heeey, don`t judge too hard on me cause most of the people i meet are still like "Whaaaat coin? or "Don`t you mean BitTorrent?"

Anyway, no more jiber jaber, here`s my ask:

I have a Desktop PC which i use only for nothing. It`s graphics card burned out long time ago, maybe by the time when it would have been wise to buy new one and start mining BTC but whatever. As i see it of today i can do the same but mine for LTC, right? Here is what i have, altought not really sure what it is actually Smiley

DualCore AMD Athlon 64 X2, 2000 MHz (10 x 200) 3800+

Asus M2N-MX, 1 Socket AM2, 2 PCI, 1 PCI-E x1, 1 PCI-E x16 with integrated video - nForce6100-430

2 GB RAM, some SATA hard drive and etc.

Im a little bit lazy to open and check for the power supply but i think its something like 450-500W Fortron. I am trying to figure what ATI GPU can i add while keeping the other stuff (maybe not the supply), for max Kh/s. For example, can i put some 7850 and start right away or it is not that simple. You know, im trying to spend some 200-300 bucks just to make some use of the PC. I am very much interested in any suggestions and ofcourse any donations as i see begging for money here is conventional enought  Grin

Thank you




Well seeing as you suggested spending 200-300 bucks. I would recommend getting an AMD Radeon HD 7950 as well. The recommended power supply is 500 watts, but considering your CPU's power usage I think you will be fine. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150590
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July 29, 2013, 08:32:32 AM
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Hi all,

I`m probably "The newbie" around here but anyway, i have done some reading lately and decided to have my first post. Believe me or not, i heard BTC for the first time from my economics profesor, talking about 2008 financial crisis. That was few monts ago and I was shocked that something so big is going on without me knowing anything about it, regardless of being a graduate student who studies economics. But, heeey, don`t judge too hard on me cause most of the people i meet are still like "Whaaaat coin? or "Don`t you mean BitTorrent?"

Anyway, no more jiber jaber, here`s my ask:

I have a Desktop PC which i use only for nothing. It`s graphics card burned out long time ago, maybe by the time when it would have been wise to buy new one and start mining BTC but whatever. As i see it of today i can do the same but mine for LTC, right? Here is what i have, altought not really sure what it is actually Smiley

DualCore AMD Athlon 64 X2, 2000 MHz (10 x 200) 3800+

Asus M2N-MX, 1 Socket AM2, 2 PCI, 1 PCI-E x1, 1 PCI-E x16 with integrated video - nForce6100-430

2 GB RAM, some SATA hard drive and etc.

Im a little bit lazy to open and check for the power supply but i think its something like 450-500W Fortron. I am trying to figure what ATI GPU can i add while keeping the other stuff (maybe not the supply), for max Kh/s. For example, can i put some 7850 and start right away or it is not that simple. You know, im trying to spend some 200-300 bucks just to make some use of the PC. I am very much interested in any suggestions and ofcourse any donations as i see begging for money here is conventional enought  Grin

Thank you



With your budget of 200-300, You can go for a 7950, or try to look for  a used 7970. But with current difficulties, you wont be getting much coins. Not very profitable at all.
If you're just looking to amuse yourself and have fun mining coins/trading, I suggest investing that $300 into ASIC miners. But if you are the occasional gamer, i'd go for the 7950.
You can pick up about 7 USB Block Eruptors in this group buy at 0.45BTC each with that $300: bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=263587.0
That would give you roughly 2300 MH/s compared to the 600 kH/s a 7950 would give you.
If you want to compute these hashrates into real-time mining profit. That would come out to $3.71 mining Bitcoins and $1.96 mining Litecoins today according to coinwarz.com
Take your pick, but either way you wont profit.
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July 29, 2013, 08:43:41 AM
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mobo: biostar h61b
card: 6*7850 hark
PSU: >1200 W
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July 29, 2013, 08:47:53 AM
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mobo: biostar h61b
card: 6*7850 hark
PSU: >1200 W

The OP is asking for something he can afford for $300. The PSU alone would cost that much.
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August 01, 2013, 04:10:36 AM
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i personally like the 5970 or 6990 good hash rates
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August 02, 2013, 03:39:18 AM
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The last few months rapid increase in difficulty has virtually killed GPU mining. You simply pay more for electricity than the value of the bitcoincs generated, unless you get your electricity for free. If you can't afford ASIC miners and need bitcoins for something specific, it's now cheaper to just buy them.
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August 02, 2013, 05:13:38 AM
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What about a Sapphire 7970 3GB?
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August 02, 2013, 09:51:23 AM
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What about a Sapphire 7970 3GB?

Faster but user more power. (Will get you something like  ~0.2 BTC per month if it's a dedicated machines and uses about 360W at full load I think) Play around with this: http://www.bitcoinx.com/profit/
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August 02, 2013, 08:23:38 PM
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With your budget of 200-300, You can go for a 7950, or try to look for  a used 7970. But with current difficulties, you wont be getting much coins. Not very profitable at all.
If you're just looking to amuse yourself and have fun mining coins/trading, I suggest investing that $300 into ASIC miners. But if you are the occasional gamer, i'd go for the 7950.
You can pick up about 7 USB Block Eruptors in this group buy at 0.45BTC each with that $300: bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=263587.0
That would give you roughly 2300 MH/s compared to the 600 kH/s a 7950 would give you.
If you want to compute these hashrates into real-time mining profit. That would come out to $3.71 mining Bitcoins and $1.96 mining Litecoins today according to coinwarz.com
Take your pick, but either way you wont profit.


I agree with relazyfo.

Im also new to mining so I was thinking getting a video card 7970 But after running the number you will never get your investment back.


So What I did I purchase a USB Erupter Block last week and got it 3 days ago, so I been playing with.

It been mining for around 20+ Hours. I have been able to mine 0.00653996 BTC - Its not allot -but being that I'm not using energy its money coming back.


I posted the results of 1 Hour test.
--->     https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=265616.msg2843768


I figure I should have my money back around a month. Then after that its pure profits.

ALSO another thing that Bitcoin price could Jump back to 200$ each like it did afew months ago. OR I could drop down to 0$... Its a chance.



and welcome...
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August 02, 2013, 10:03:54 PM
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I was running 7 7970's for a couple of days and have been slowly buying ASICminers to replace them since I dont care much for the heat and power use of the 7970's. But I figure if I cant get the ASICminers below 60.00 each I would be doing ok. It just takes some looking arround a resisting the urge to buy everything I see in order to build up GHZ.

with 7 7970's - Not overclocked - I am geting about 3.1-3.4 ghz.

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August 03, 2013, 12:33:13 AM
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I was running 7 7970's for a couple of days and have been slowly buying ASICminers to replace them since I dont care much for the heat and power use of the 7970's. But I figure if I cant get the ASICminers below 60.00 each I would be doing ok. It just takes some looking arround a resisting the urge to buy everything I see in order to build up GHZ.

with 7 7970's - Not overclocked - I am geting about 3.1-3.4 ghz.



Wow, that's huge ! I've been slowly mining ftc with a hd7770 @ 160-180kh/s (and found out myself "intensity 16" was the best for this card, like in those links couple posts ago)
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August 03, 2013, 01:04:06 AM
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Mining Bitcoin on a GPU won't be too profitable, if at all
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August 03, 2013, 01:06:41 AM
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I suggest a 7950 as its the most bang for the buck and power consumption. You can usually overclock and undervolt to achieve 15-20% more hash for 15-20% less power. Mine are running 550 k/h using 170W  vs 430k/h at 220W on stock settings.
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August 03, 2013, 07:34:18 AM
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I'd probably suggest 7950s; if you shop around you can find them on sale. When I got mine I also got 3 free games and a $30 mail in rebate (in addition to a sale price).
Your power supply should be able to handle it, I think the card uses about 300 watts under max load.
I've been using them mostly for bitcoin mining, not litecoin so I'm not 100% familiar with how they'd perform in that case. But I can say that in terms of bitcoin mining they appear to have the best price / performance ratio (keeping in mind that with the way difficulty has been skyrocketing it doesn't make sense to GPU mine bitcoins for anything other then fun).

Good luck!
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August 03, 2013, 08:36:38 AM
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For altcoins I'd rather get two 7790 than one 7950, because the price and the hasrate would be the same, but the power consumption would be only 1/2.
For SHA256d coins (Bitcoin, PPCoin, Terracoin, Bytecoin, etc.) you better invest your money in ASICs like Block Eruptors.

BTC: 142BHpdq4wey7PC3Cp5QiUoshF19u3yvHN LTC: LbiEUDYjohwpXnv1Gd4LvdGr1Jr1M5Usjc NMC: N3eeYkWqeLFWBJRmS3WyU1zz6WgKkjEVtb
IXC: xtR8uc2EFGWFJgrVEgZZ5yvRsWKhwAg8ZH DVC: 18oVWfSqHjvhJEuHHxsDpCfBeDMuLWyh5p CLR: CGZGWW16sooX69PJBEtJH2Xmo4KFupkow7
PPC: PLJ5uzFw21FkKdSrmfccT3MqubSfSB4soE YAC: Y7FM89AiFhWKBcXh2BzzRaw4eUAYkreXbs LBW: 5ygEWM7dMjeUV2sBeppTvkTTXCkeREKqf2
I0C: jatiogvXJYhK7auegbjPnQRV3kQgFvz482 JPU: JE7fhhPfP1Kjyd1hj8zevNsf7THeMqHo6A NVC: 4Hvecu2fzC2rCwYbKBeYXr8y9pdAZLFZHH
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August 03, 2013, 09:54:58 AM
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People usually recommend 7950. I think your power supply is just about enough for it.

That power supply will blow in no time if it is a standard useless  low quality psu.
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August 03, 2013, 11:21:33 PM
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7950's are they way to go without doubt, they keep their value fairly well if you want to sell them in the future (or use them for gaming).
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