Tirapon
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July 29, 2013, 10:52:14 AM |
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If I take my laptop to Thailand this summer, do I have to remove my private keys before crossing the border?
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Chang Hum
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July 29, 2013, 10:54:02 AM |
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Internet Porns illegal in Thailand, Whoreing's illegal in Thailand, smoking while driving, Conterfeit goods are illegal. The police aren't very on top here I don't think its anything to worry about. I was caught over the limit with no tax or insurance on my motorbike recently and got a 200 baht (6usd) fine!!
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Chang Hum
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July 29, 2013, 10:54:41 AM |
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If I take my laptop to Thailand this summer, do I have to remove my private keys before crossing the border?
Just stash them up ya arse mate
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Tirapon
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July 29, 2013, 10:58:24 AM |
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If I take my laptop to Thailand this summer, do I have to remove my private keys before crossing the border?
Just stash them up ya arse mate lol
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July 29, 2013, 11:00:53 AM |
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i like how they declare it outright illegal versus saying the money laundering via bitcoin is illegal
This is how gentlemen do it. Not like pussies that tell you 100 insignificant reasons wasting your time before you figure out the true one.
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vokain
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July 29, 2013, 11:02:28 AM |
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^lol ==== Okay a little bit about this Thailand crazyness. This guy went to some bankers and was like, hey is it cool if we do this? The bankers where like, ummm... Since there are no laws, it must be illegal! Yeah! Well, if there is no law against it, it is not illegal. Also these guys do not make laws nor do they enforce them. The guy was trying to cover his ass but really he is overreacting and yeah seems to be creating FUD. All the banker guys were going to do was cover their ass as well. The guy clearly does not know what he is doing and really should not have invested this much time in an exchange if he was going to take this path. Anyway it over all does not mean anything, people are not going to be jailed for buying BTC in Thailand. This "advice" means nothing in a court of law.
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Raoul Duke
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July 29, 2013, 11:08:19 AM |
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Ok, may be I'm not aware about legal procedures in Thailand. it seems like sharia court, where judge makes decision according not to law but by their own opinion.
Obviously for there to be any penalty it would have to go through the courts. ie Civil and/or Criminal charges would have to be brought and trials, appeals etc... Any Guinea pig volunteers? Maybe an American Goat will do... No need to bring pigs from Guinea.
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Lohoris
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July 29, 2013, 11:24:34 AM |
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I guess they are just upset that the B symbol is now more known for BTC than for THB : P
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dave111223 (OP)
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July 29, 2013, 11:28:47 AM |
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Well, if there is no law against it, it is not illegal.
I'm not a lawyer, but here is a quote from my lawyer in Thailand: In my home country of America, the fundamental basis of law is that every act is LEGAL, unless there is a law that makes that act illegal. Thailand’s fundamental basis of law is quite different – in Thailand, every act is ILLEGAL, unless there is a law (and process, and procedure) to make it legal.
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Lohoris
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July 29, 2013, 11:31:18 AM |
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In my home country of America, the fundamental basis of law is that every act is LEGAL, unless there is a law that makes that act illegal. Thailand’s fundamental basis of law is quite different – in Thailand, every act is ILLEGAL, unless there is a law (and process, and procedure) to make it legal.
So, unless there's a law explicitly permitting me to, say, trying to keep an eye open while I'm blowing my nose, I'm committing a crime. Yeah, sure, makes sense. I mean, I'm not saying you're lying, I'm just saying that such a system is so incredibly fucked up and senseless, that you should just ignore it altogether.
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vokain
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July 29, 2013, 11:34:56 AM |
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In my home country of America, the fundamental basis of law is that every act is LEGAL, unless there is a law that makes that act illegal. Thailand’s fundamental basis of law is quite different – in Thailand, every act is ILLEGAL, unless there is a law (and process, and procedure) to make it legal.
So, unless there's a law explicitly permitting me to, say, trying to keep an eye open while I'm blowing my nose, I'm committing a crime. Yeah, sure, makes sense. I mean, I'm not saying you're lying, I'm just saying that such a system is so incredibly fucked up and senseless, that you should just ignore it altogether. Right? Like how did it all start out? surely there was a day they had no laws and had to decide them Funny how such a beautiful country can have such draconian laws like that
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July 29, 2013, 11:46:25 AM Last edit: July 29, 2013, 11:57:06 AM by Chaang Noi (Goat) ช้างน้อย |
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Guys.. If OP did not invest a significant amount of money in his business I would say he is just trolling. The people in that meeting do not make laws. Even if they thought what OP was doing was illegal that does not make it a fact. I'm going to assume here the guys were talking about running an exchange and not BTC itself.
OP is making Thailand look bad and anyone who knows anything will know OP is just so far off it is not even funny.
OP get a real lawyer and read some law. Almost everything has been translated into English. Really man you just lost all credibility and can never gain it back.
edit: I also reported this for being in the wrong section. Your exchange is not the media and any person in the press would check into your story a bit and see if what you claim is true.
I hope this gets moved to speculation or maybe off topic.
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greyhawk
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July 29, 2013, 11:50:28 AM |
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Guys.. If OP did not invest a significant amount of money in his business I would say he is just trolling. The people in that meeting do not make laws. Even if they thought what OP was doing was illegal that does not make it a fact. I'm going to assume here the guys were talking about running an exchange and not BTC itself.
OP is making Thailand look bad and anyone who knows anything will know OP is just so far off it is not even funny.
OP get a real lawyer and read some law. Almost everything has been translated into English. Really man you just lost all credibility and can never gain it back.
Are you even allowed to type words on an Internet? Please quote the law allowing you to do so.
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July 29, 2013, 12:56:00 PM |
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The only freedom is freedom from illusion. Or rather, the people of thailand dont stand much chance against laws like these, as long as they remain uninformed or misinformed. In the west, we are more informed, so the government cant get away with random things like this. So thats the difference between uninformed people, and more or less well-informed people, its what their government gets away with.
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greyhawk
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July 29, 2013, 01:00:50 PM |
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In the west, we are more informed, so the government cant get away with random things like this.
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phorensic
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July 29, 2013, 01:04:36 PM |
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In a free country you do what you like as long as it is not illegal. In a controlled un-free country you can only do what is legally allowed.
I'm sorry, but in America you can get arrested and thrown in jail for doing things that are not illegal. Police officers will throw things at you and see what sticks in court. If they have never seen someone do the same before they will invent some new law or modify one on the fly. If you have a shitty judge, attorney, or jury, you will be screwed. America is not as free as the rest of the world would like to think it is. I'm afraid to do MANY things that would seem cool or fun because of our legal system. Source: I've been through the legal system once. Although it was totally my fault.
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BitChick
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July 29, 2013, 01:25:09 PM |
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In a free country you do what you like as long as it is not illegal. In a controlled un-free country you can only do what is legally allowed.
I'm sorry, but in America you can get arrested and thrown in jail for doing things that are not illegal. Police officers will throw things at you and see what sticks in court. If they have never seen someone do the same before they will invent some new law or modify one on the fly. If you have a shitty judge, attorney, or jury, you will be screwed. America is not as free as the rest of the world would like to think it is. I'm afraid to do MANY things that would seem cool or fun because of our legal system. Source: I've been through the legal system once. Although it was totally my fault. And this is why my husband and I decided not to buy when BTC was only $1. We were afraid of being thrown in jail because we were tied to something that could be seen as tied to money laundering etc. We waited until we noticed there was some regulation. That perhaps cost us thousands of dollars in that we could not buy as much BTC. Oh well. We are not in jail though.
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darkmule
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July 29, 2013, 01:35:11 PM |
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The bankers in Thailand are basically the very same idiots who tanked the entire Asian economy in 1997 by being too stupid to understand how currency works. While this is disappointing, it really shouldn't be surprising.
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sukiho
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July 29, 2013, 01:50:34 PM |
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I very much doubt that those bankers even know what BTC is. I would guess its not a good idea to start an exchange in Thailand without the right connections as you would be setting yourself up as an obvious target with money, but as far as buying or selling BTC they are incapable of policing it even if they wanted to which Im sure they dont.
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niko
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July 29, 2013, 01:53:38 PM |
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This thread stinks. There are no cases of anyone being prosecuted for legitimate bitcoin transactions in Thailand. The whole discussion is based on hearsay and irrelevant statements and interpretations from irrelevant people. Don't waste your time here.
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They're there, in their room. Your mining rig is on fire, yet you're very calm.
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